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Georgia Elections - And Here We Go!

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Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:28 PM

Other than trying desperately to repeal the ACA or Obamacare, as it's come to be known, what have our stalwart, but callous, Republicans done in say - Oh! - the last 12 years? Aside from get us into a endless war in the Middle East (by the way, for which Cheney is eternally grateful).

Let me know when you get to something good. And WTF is with this calling "a terrorist a terrorist" thing about. Who the fuck cares? Especially when you're dead. Like the word will magically bring anyone back. Personally, I call them "marshmallows," has a nice tone and they're tasty too.

Calling these low-lives terrorists just gives them power. Fuck calling them terrorists - they are cowards, sneaking up on innocent people going about their business is just plain cowardly. I just thought of something better to call them.
I'm going to quote that famous American cowboy from the annals of the entertainment
capital of the world......Yosemite Sam:

they are "yellow belly, lilly livered varmints. I'm gonna fill ya full of lead."

Ahhh, I feel better already.


SGG


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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Another great Republican Win.....this in a Republican stronghold, or should I say stranglehold.

More power to you! Now which direction are we going in?




I'm fine with the direction so far. We're back to calling a terrorist a terrorist, the SJW cringe fest of the last half decade has subsided, the media is too busy hounding Trump everyday to remind everybody that I'm inherently evil because I'm a straight white male.

This makes 6 months now that Democrats haven't actually done, well... anything.

I dunno. What's next?

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Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:55 PM

The point is, Obama and the SJWs wouldn't even call out Islam for the last 8 years, and they've been literally getting away with murder and growing stronger all that time. If nothing else, in the last 6 months there has been an abrupt turn on that bullshit.

Don't kid yourself that the Republicans alone are to blame for the wars. Obama and Hillary and the rest of the Democrats were in no hurry to end any of them either, and were all to eager to lead us into more.

My own personal biggest disappointment in Trump so far seems to be that this is not going to change any time soon.

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Friday, June 23, 2017 5:21 PM

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"Our Brand's Worse Than Trump" Democrats Demand "Toxic" Pelosi Step Aside, Trump Urges Her To Stay

Update: Nancy Pelosi does have one supporter who believes she should stay...
I certainly hope the Democrats do not force Nancy P out. That would be very bad for the Republican Party - and please let Cryin' Chuck stay! — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) June 22, 2017

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Democrats' embarrassing special-election loss in Georgia, after the liberal media built up unrealistic expectations, has provoked a wave of bitter blowback that targets House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi.

As Axios notes, it's part of a generational argument that's also driving the party's 2020 conversation.

“It was a very rough night for Nancy Pelosi,” said Sean Clegg, a Democratic strategist in San Francisco, adding that he was personally a big fan of hers.
“Republican messaging attacking Pelosi appeared to be more effective than Democratic messaging against Trump. That’s a problem going forward, and it’s going to be a challenge in House races particularly.”
"I think the problem is we have not come up with an agenda and then we need a strategy to communicate it," Rep. Bill Pascrell, D-N.J., said. We can't just be against something."


On Wednesday, some Democratic members of Congress publicly voiced concerns about Pelosi, raising the specter of a leadership challenge.

“I think you’d have to be an idiot to think we could win the House with Pelosi at the top,” Rep. Filemon Vela, a Texas Democrat, told Politico.
“Nancy Pelosi is not the only reason that Ossoff lost, but she certainly is one of the reasons.”


Representative Ben Ray Luján of New Mexico, the chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, reportedly met Wednesday morning with a group of lawmakers who have been conferring about economic messaging, according to several people present who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Mr. Luján told the group that his committee would examine the Georgia results for lessons, but he urged the lawmakers to portray the race in positive terms in their public comments, stressing that Democrats have consistently exceeded their historical performance in a series of special elections fought in solidly Republican territory.

It was in the meeting with Mr. Luján that Mr. Cárdenas, a member of the Democratic leadership, brought up Ms. Pelosi’s role in the Georgia race, calling it “the elephant in the room.”
Ms. Pelosi was not present.


On the front page of liberal heartland Silicon Valley's paper, The Mercury News of San Jose...

"Some of the toughest ads against the 30-year-old [Georgia Dem candidate Jon] Ossoff were those tying him to Pelosi, whose approval ratings are underwater outside California."

Furthermore, as NYTimes reports, in a possible omen, the first Democratic candidate to announce his campaign after the Georgia defeat immediately vowed not to support Ms. Pelosi for leader.

Joe Cunningham, a South Carolina lawyer challenging Representative Mark Sanford, said Democrats needed “new leadership now.”
Even Democrats who are not openly antagonistic toward Ms. Pelosi acknowledged that a decade of Republican attacks had taken a toll: “It’s pretty difficult to undo the demonization of anyone,” said Representative Bill Pascrell Jr. of New Jersey.


So with all that said, we are left with one question, as The Economic Collapse blog's Michael Snyder asks, are the 'toxic' Democrats destine to become a permanent minority party?

It has become exceedingly clear that the Democratic Party is in deep trouble. Close to 55 million dollars was spent on the race in Georgia’s sixth congressional district, and that shattered all kinds of records. Democrat Jon Ossoff was able to raise and spend six times as much money as Karen Handel and yet he still lost. This was supposed to be the race that would show the American people that the Democrats

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Friday, June 23, 2017 5:41 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Two things:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/democrats-see-high-stakes-in-ge
orgia%E2%80%99s-special-election/ar-BBCQOJZ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp



Never mind the Russians, this is the sneakiest motherfucker going.
Sneaky fucking bitch!


SGG



Being honest and legal is not " sneaky ". Karen said several were brought up before the board. She did NOT say several were CONVICTED. Yet the 'FACT CHECK' made it sound as if she had said that, so sorry ' FACT CHECK', you lied.


So glad she won, and so glad it ticks off the Leftists Resist losers.

0 for 5 in special elections ?


And voter ID...India has it. For EVERYONE. A country of 1.3 Billion. Are THEY racist too ?

Screw ANYONE who says that voter ID is an attempt to suppress the vote. It isn't. It's an attempt to keep it honest.

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Friday, June 23, 2017 5:47 PM

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Originally posted by reaverfan:
True. Trump is heaven for the rich, hell for all others.

We already knew the Democrat was going to lose. The Koch brothers got involved.

There is literally no election they can't buy.

Since Citizens United, our government is for sale to the highest bidder, and no one bids higher than the Kochs.



One small problem w/ that, the hugest bidder , the Dems, keep losing. Whether it's Hillary and her 1.7 billion dollars or Jon Ossoff, and his 95% contributions coming from CA for a GA district in which he doesn't even LIVE...

" How bad did the Dems ultimately do in GA06? Ossoff got fewer votes than the guy who literally spent $0.00 against Tom Price in November. " @EWErickson




Suck it, again.

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Friday, June 23, 2017 6:04 PM

GSTRING

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... All that extra data enables the BLS to calculate six different measures of labor underutilization, labeled U-1 through U-6, with broader or narrower parameters than the official unemployment rate (which is known as U-3). The broadest, U-6, includes all “marginally attached” workers (including discouraged workers) and involuntary part-time workers. The seasonally adjusted U-6 rate stood at 9.4% in January; since 1994 it has ranged from 6.8% (in October 2000) to 17.1% (most recently in April 2010). While the U-6 typically runs anywhere from 3 to 7 percentage points higher than the regular unemployment rate, with the gap wider during recessions and narrower in good economic times, it tends to follow the same pattern as the official unemployment rate.

Beyond the unemployment rate, a key metric in the monthly jobs report is the labor force participation rate – the share of the 16-and-over civilian non-institutional population either working or looking for work. The participation rate rose for several decades, peaked in early 2000 at 67.3%, then began falling; in January it was 62.9%, about where it was in the late 1970s.

Labor economists generally agree that waves of retiring Baby Boomers explain part (but not all) of the decline, which has been [o]especially steep for men in their prime working years.

... There’s also the employment-population ratio, which measures employed people as a percentage of the 16-and-over civilian non-institutional population. Though the ratio has some quirks, it’s less affected by seasonal variations or short-term fluctuations in labor-market behavior than the unemployment rate. According to the January jobs report, the seasonally adjusted employment-population ratio was 59.9%, three-tenths of a percentage point higher than it was a year earlier.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/03/07/employment-vs-unemploy
ment-different-stories-from-the-jobs-numbers
/

Many people have either gone back to school or stayed on school (and live with mom and dad) or have applied for disability which takes them out of the official labor force.

Probably the least "interpreted" measure of labor force utilization is the employment to population ratio, which looks like this ...



You can get an interactive view from the FRED (Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis) here https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNU02327660

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

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Friday, June 23, 2017 8:08 PM

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Hahaha - You got busted using a bullshit list and now you try and deflect. That's "It's never me" SIGGY. - GSTRING
I simply posted the basic data from which the other measures are calculated.

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I await your next lie.- GSTRING

I await your next pointless personal attack, GSTRING.

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Labor economists generally agree that waves of retiring Baby Boomers explain part (but not all) of the decline, which has been especially steep for men in their prime working years.
Men in their prime working years are not about to retire.


So, do you REALLY want to know what's going on, or not? Or do you want to stick with the story that everything is just fine in happy-land? Because if that's the case, I have some slightly used Democratic polling numbers to sell you.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one

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Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:03 PM

The thing is that is not how things went. Obama for years talked about infrastructure, yet he was blocked. Now Trump comes along and says the same thing and "Oh, what a great idea, let's do that!"

Yet, here we are. Has anything been done yet? Has Trump even started his domestic job agenda? Has he appointed anyone to run that? What about the Republican-controlled houses? Have they even talked about a jobs agenda? The shoe is on the other foot now, isn't it?


SGG


Quote:

Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Originally posted by reaverfan:
True. Trump is heaven for the rich, hell for all others.

We already knew the Democrat was going to lose. The Koch brothers got involved.

There is literally no election they can't buy.

Since Citizens United, our government is for sale to the highest bidder, and no one bids higher than the Kochs.

Democrats would win if they had something to offer for the average American who just wants a job at a decent wage. Yes, EVERYONE should have an equal shot at success, but turning us into a rollerball of competing victim-groups isn't the solution for what ails us. We jobs at decent wages for everyone.

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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Sunday, June 25, 2017 3:05 PM

Now, now children...mustn't fight. We will get nowhere like this.


SGG


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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Quote:

Hahaha - You got busted using a bullshit list and now you try and deflect. That's "It's never me" SIGGY. - GSTRING
I simply posted the basic data from which the other measures are calculated.

Quote:

I await your next lie.- GSTRING

I await your next pointless personal attack, GSTRING.

Quote:

Labor economists generally agree that waves of retiring Baby Boomers explain part (but not all) of the decline, which has been especially steep for men in their prime working years.
Men in their prime working years are not about to retire.


So, do you REALLY want to know what's going on, or not? Or do you want to stick with the story that everything is just fine in happy-land? Because if that's the case, I have some slightly used Democratic polling numbers to sell you.

-----------

"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake

THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one


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Sunday, June 25, 2017 7:07 PM

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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
The thing is that is not how things went. Obama for years talked about infrastructure, yet he was blocked. Now Trump comes along and says the same thing and "Oh, what a great idea, let's do that!"



Blocked ? No, you're kidding, right? Remember ' shovel ready jobs ' ? Which turned out to be ' not so shovel ready '?

* The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA)


The approximate cost of the economic stimulus package was estimated to be $787 billion at the time of passage, later revised to $831 billion between 2009 and 2019.[1] The ARRA's rationale was based on the Keynesian economic theory that, during recessions, the government should offset the decrease in private spending with an increase in public spending in order to save jobs and stop further economic deterioration.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Act_o
f_2009




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Yet, here we are. Has anything been done yet? Has Trump even started his domestic job agenda? Has he appointed anyone to run that? What about the Republican-controlled houses? Have they even talked about a jobs agenda? The shoe is on the other foot now, isn't it?


SGG




The shoe IS on the other foot, and while it is a valid question - what does Trump have to show for it yet - he is having to deal w/ a bunch of partisan baloney that Obama didn't face at the same time of his first term.

OH, you think he didn't ? While the GOP voted against him, they didn't have the legislative numbers to block ANYTHING Obama wanted. There in lies the big difference.

Also... no where will you find the GOP leadership SOOO over the top in their vitriol, obstruction, and outright seething hatred for the President. No one was outwardly bleating about 'Impeach 44!' like we have legislators doing to Trump. Not even close.







* In May 2016, the chairman of the U.S. Senate Finance Committee, Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT), launched the first steps of an investigation into a part of the stimulus law that gave grants to solar and green energy companies. Hatch sent a letter to the IRS and Treasury Department with a list of questions about the program. According to the Wall Street Journal, letters from senior senators who chair committees can lead to formal investigations by Congress.[107]

One part of the stimulus law, section 1603, gave cash grants to solar companies to encourage investment in solar technology. Because many companies didn't yet make a profit in 2009 in that industry, they were offered cash instead of tax credits. Recently, in September 2015, the government asked that a Spanish company return $1 million it had received from the program. The company issued a statement saying it fully complied with the request.[107]

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