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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:36 PM

President Trump’s maybe-nonexistent White House tapes, explained

www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/13/15787378/trump-tapes-russia-
comey


It’s difficult to imagine that any president of the United States would be so stupid as to record his conversations with aides, since Nixon’s decision to do so went down as one of the greatest self-owns in American political history.

Then again, throughout his business career, Trump has had a long history of secretly recording his phone calls with people, as the Washington Post’s Marc Fisher wrote last month.

More recently, however, Trump seems to have had a habit of making a different play — of bluffing that he has tapes that will supposedly prove him right in some dispute or another, in an effort to get his opponent to back down.

For instance, two New York Times reporters who covered the 2016 presidential campaign have separate accounts of Trump claiming that he was misquoted in a story and insisting that he had a tape to back him up. In both cases, the reporters say, Trump curiously failed to produce the tape.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:44 PM

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About ALL your 'objectionz', why do you think Trump lawyered up yesterday?



Why wouldn't Trump lawyer up? Had a bunch of nut-jobs watching Rachel Maddow the last few months telling them that Trump was guilty and he wasn't even being investigated.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 6:46 PM

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Originally posted by second:
President Trump’s maybe-nonexistent White House tapes, explained



lol... vox.

Somebody ought to go back a full year and collect all of the articles that they wrote that have been debunked by time.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 8:08 PM

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President Trump’s maybe-nonexistent White House tapes, explained



lol... vox.

Somebody ought to go back a full year and collect all of the articles that they wrote that have been debunked by time.

Well, well, well. If Trump does not have a Comey tape, then why did Trump talk about his Comey tape? If Trump told a fable about the tape that will end up bringing him condemnation. Does he care? Never! He welcomes condemnation. "He lies to people who have the power to publicly devastate him. He betrays people who have the power to damage him. Trump is most dangerous to the people who are closest to him and are in the best position to take their revenge." -- https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/09/opinion/trump-presidency.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 9:24 PM

Must be like the 12th time he's brought about condemnation.

This week.

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:05 PM

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Must be like the 12th time he's brought about condemnation.

This week.

The Trump administration is creating chaos. Daily. Of course many of the scandals are the result of the president’s ignorance and blunders – not some nefarious strategy.

But there is also no doubt that some savvy people around Trump are using the daily shocks as cover to advance wildly pro-corporate policies that bear little resemblance to what Trump pledged on the campaign trail.

And the worst part? This is likely just the warm up for what this Administration will do when it has a major external shock to exploit. Any such crisis could redraw the political map overnight, giving Trump and his crew free rein to ram through their most extreme ideas.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 11:41 PM

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The Trump administration is creating chaos. Daily. Of course many of the scandals are the result of the president’s ignorance and blunders – not some nefarious strategy.

But there is also no doubt that some savvy people around Trump are using the daily shocks as cover to advance wildly pro-corporate policies that bear little resemblance to what Trump pledged on the campaign trail.

And the worst part? This is likely just the warm up for what this Administration will do when it has a major external shock to exploit. Any such crisis could redraw the political map overnight, giving Trump and his crew free rein to ram through their most extreme ideas.



That all might be true. It's too bad that you Lefties have been screaming so loud since November 9th before he even had a chance to do anything. You kicked it all off by burning cities down and marching down the street yelling "FUCK TRUMP!"

Most of us are just tuning it all out. I'm under no illusion that this is a good thing.

Remember when there was nothing for you guys to bitch about every single day besides pussy grabbing and possible golden showers from Russian prostitutes?

Seems like ages ago....

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Wednesday, June 14, 2017 12:24 AM

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Seems like ages ago....

Trump promised that "every dream you ever dreamed for your country" will come true if he becomes president. Trump was asked 'How will we know when America is Great Again'. His answer was 'I'll tell you when'. There are hundreds of Trump promises of greatness. Very impressive list:

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/i-will-give-you-everything-here-are-28
2-of-donald-trumps-campaign-promises/2016/11/24/01160678-b0f9-11e6-8616-52b15787add0_story.html


I like these 3 mutually exclusive promises from Trump because they are so easy to understand:

12. Leave the federal minimum wage at $7.25 per hour, which is already too high.

13. Raise the federal minimum wage to $10 per hour, as $7.25 is too low and “the minimum wage has to go up.”

14. Allow states to set their own minimum wage, possibly setting a wage lower than the Federal Minimum as well as higher.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/08/03/a-guide-to-all-
of-donald-trumps-flip-flops-on-the-minimum-wage
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Wednesday, June 14, 2017 1:23 AM

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Seems like ages ago....

Trump promised that "every dream you ever dreamed for your country" will come true if he becomes president. Trump was asked 'How will we know when America is Great Again'. His answer was 'I'll tell you when'. There are hundreds of Trump promises of greatness.



Big Fuckin' Deal.

Obama promised "Hope and Change" and all we got was 8 years of the same.

I think I figured out what your problem is Second. You're a Trust Fund Baby that never had to grow up.

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Wednesday, June 14, 2017 5:49 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:

Seems like ages ago....

Trump promised that "every dream you ever dreamed for your country" will come true if he becomes president. Trump was asked 'How will we know when America is Great Again'. His answer was 'I'll tell you when'. There are hundreds of Trump promises of greatness.



Big Fuckin' Deal.

Obama promised "Hope and Change" and all we got was 8 years of the same.

I think I figured out what your problem is Second. You're a Trust Fund Baby that never had to grow up.

I think I figured out your problem. You are not right. I'm from a family that recognizes that Trump is a con artist and would never trust him and won't elect him, while 6ixStringJoker did the opposite. How's that worked out for you and the 62,985,106 others voting for Trump? Are you getting better results from life than I and the Trump family are getting? I'm going to tell you a fact. You ignore it and you will sacrifice your future (but if your self-sacrifice to the GOP is okay with you it is okay with me): The only people who should vote for Republicans are rich people. I should have voted for Trump! But every Texas Republican I know who isn't wealthy would rather die than admit they are wrong about Trump. With your hopelessly screwed up understanding of Trump the only thing I can do for you is wish you good luck with the rest of your life because you will need it. There will be more con artists like Trump to steal your future from you.

Let's get back to the subject of Evidence. No crimes were revealed today by Jeff Sessions, but something odd happened in the past.

Sessions never heard Trump show any interest in Russian hacking before the inauguration. James Comey never heard Trump show any interest in Russian hacking after the inauguration. If Donald Trump ever showed the slightest interest in a hostile state actor trying to subvert an American election, not a single person seems to remember it.

I dunno. It sure seems like the kind of thing the president of the United States ought to be upset about. I wonder why Trump isn’t? But Trump isn't, so that is Evidence.

www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/06/the-most-shocking-revelation-from
-the-sessions-hearing
/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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