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Monday, June 12, 2017 6:56 PM
Quote:I think you are flat wrong about the role of Congress. Congress only has thousands of employees, most of them can't work on policy because they are either doing secretarial work (answering letters from back in the Congressman's district) or doing the work of lawyers.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Domestic policies are the purview of Congress, not the President. You should be figuring out how to win Congress back. Focusing on the Presidency was one of the many mistakes that the Dems made in 2016 and earlier.
Actually he is no worse than his policies, which are mainstream Republicanism. Pence would be no better than Trump- SECOND
The Dems can win, not by offering a better alternative, but by being the party of last resort. But I would hope that they would offer workable alternatives to the GOP. I can even imagine a winning platform, one which engages the problems and worries of most Americans. Starting with healthcare.
Workable. Sustainable. Will they do it? Or will they let Americans continue to suffer, hoping to pick up the pieces.
On the other hand, the President already has a million employees that he could use to plan his policies. And the President can hire as many engineers or contractors or rocket scientists as he wants to draw up his plans in order to persuade Congress to pay for these dream projects. Congress only hires people to work in the Congressman's office. See the difference? The President shows his plans to Congress, Congress pays, the President executes the President's plan, whatever it is.
On the campaign trail, Trump promised a $1 trillion infrastructure spending bill. Democrats agree in principle and have the outline of a plan. Trump has neither an outline nor a team to help him write one. The same is true across the board — on the big problems Trump promised to fix he’s just not doing anything and his failure to deliver even somewhat detailed plans to solve problems — let alone actually solve them — is as much a cloud over his presidency as any FBI investigation.
Trump hasn’t appointed anyone to any key infrastructure jobs. He’s obstructing himself.
www.vox.com/2017/6/12/15778262/trump-infrastructure-appointments
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Monday, June 12, 2017 7:44 PM
J0 says...
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Originally posted by JO753:
I'm in the other 1% - peepl with a net worth uv -250,000$ or less.
I say...
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:Quote:
Originally posted by JO753:
-250,000$
I can't even begin to guess what that means in NooAlf.
Second quotes this part...
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
I can't even begin to guess what that means . . .
Then asks...
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Can you guess what Trump means by this?
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Monday, June 12, 2017 8:03 PM
Quote:That's Trump's bottled brain. The problem with Trump is that he can’t assemble a complicated plan in his head and he hasn’t hired help to do the thinking he has no energy for. If Hillary was President she would have detailed plans by now that the Republican controlled Congress would forever refuse to fund. She would have accomplished as little as Trump, who has no plans. Congress might say no to Trump, but they can’t say yes until Trump presents them with his plans. Congress doesn’t have the manpower to make those detailed plans for any President, including Trump.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Until Trump formulates carefully thought out plans, nothing more than routine will happen on his MAGA dream projects. For example of routine, he will deport a few more illegal aliens than Obama, but to deport 11,000,000 Trump needs a big plan and more employees to finish the work in the next 3.5 years, about the same length of time as WWII. Where’s Trump’s plan? Him improvising day by day is not enough. Every illegal deported is another job opening for the unemployed. Creating 11,000,000 job opportunities should be a top Trump priority, but I see him acting like he has all the time in the world.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Monday, June 12, 2017 9:50 PM
About 1.5% of American's regularly tune into MSNBC or CNN collectively in any given week. I think "a majority of Americans" is being a little generous.
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Monday, June 12, 2017 9:53 PM
Quote:It is laughable. You never worked in an office, have you? If Trump doesn't hire experts, his "Make America Great Again" plan will not fly in the next 3.5 years. Congress doesn't have the experts to help Trump. Success or failure is all up to him and nobody else although I do expect him to blame everybody but himself when he campaigns in the Summer of 2020.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
lol
www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/06/12/yes-congress-is-getting
-less-smart-no-its-not-trumps-fault/
I see that Trump is not completing his homework, which is bad news for MAGA.
https://theintercept.com/2017/06/12/trump-assigned-himself-an-awful-lo
t-of-homework-that-isnt-getting-done/
"The White House never responded to several requests for comment."
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:19 AM
Quote:Do they read the internet? Because I get this without subscription:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
About 1.5% of American's regularly tune into MSNBC or CNN collectively in any given week. I think "a majority of Americans" is being a little generous.
I was an FBI agent. Trump’s lack of concern about Russian hacking shocks me.
By Asha Rangappa, associate dean at Yale Law School.
www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2017/06/10/i-was-an-fbi-agent
-trumps-lack-of-concern-about-russian-hacking-shocks-me/
Quote:Finally, we have prima facie evidence about Trump. Prima facie means accepted as correct until proved otherwise. As of today, Trump has not claimed that at any time he asked concerned questions about hacking or Russian interference or how to stop it in the future. Has Trump retracted his claim that it is all a hoax?
As a former FBI counterintelligence agent, what I saw as the most explosive aspect of the testimony was the prima facie evidence that Comey presented that Trump appears unwilling to uphold his oath “to preserve, protect, and defend” the country — which puts the security of our nation and its democracy at stake. In the nine times Trump met with or called Comey, it was always to discuss how the investigation into Russia’s election interference was affecting him personally, rather than the security of the country. He apparently cared little about understanding either the magnitude of the Russian intelligence threat, or how the FBI might be able to prevent another attack in future elections.
When Sen. Martin Heinrich (D-N.M.) asked Comey whether Trump had ever appeared concerned about Russian interference or how to stop it in the future, Comey’s answer was blunt: “No.” After a moment of reflection, he added, without prompting, that he had “attended a fair number of meetings on that with President Obama.” This contrast alone underscores Trump’s disregard for his fundamental duty, which is to ensure the security of the nation, its government and its citizens from foreign enemies.
It’s worth noting that there is unanimity among senior intelligence officials that the Russian interference in our election not only happened, but that it was extraordinary and unprecedented.
It does not require an FBI investigation to see that a president of the United States who finds no reason for concern in any of these assertions — and indeed considers them a “hoax” — cannot have the best interest of the country at heart.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:40 AM
Quote:Thank you!
And SECONDRATE conveniently posts cartoons as an example of why I barely skim its posts. (see above)- SIGNY
"It's" posts? Called out on "she" as an insult so going for "It" instead - classy!- GSTRING
Quote:Nope! Just to skirt-wearing shriekers. Or maybe just shriekers in general!
I see that GSTRING is picking up his skirts and shrieking about nothing...- SIGNY
Another insult to women.- GSTRING
Quote:How the fuck would YOU know why I called SECOND a "she", you flagrant fraud? I really thought SECOND was a "she". Despite me having called SECOND a "she" more than once in the past, it never corrected me, so I thought I was correct.
Mistakenly calling someone a "she" is not an insult unless you think "she's" are inferior. So, do you? - SIGNY
You lie. You called him She as an insult and now don't have the class to own it. What a fraud.- GSTRING
So, tell me SECOND, are you a "he"?
Quote:KRAPO? THUGR?
Yanno, since the intelligence community is fighting Trump so hard, he MUST be better because he's pissing off all the right people. Including you and SECONDRATE and JOLAMEBRAIN and that other idiot, what's-his-name.- SIGNY
6ix? Kiki?- GSTRING
Quote:Alas, the majority of American people are easily duped by focused media campaigns. That's how you get people to stand in line for two days for a gorram cell phone. But the American people have an excuse .... they're not the ones driving this bus.
Pissing off the right people - you mean a majority of the American people? Good one! Did you misspeak or did we just catch you being honest?- GSTRING
No, I mean the REAL right people - the ones with a vested interest in global hegemony.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 12:52 AM
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Finally, we have prima facie evidence about Trump. Prima facie means accepted as correct until proved otherwise. As of today, Trump has not claimed that at any time he asked concerned questions about hacking or Russian interference or how to stop it in the future. Has Trump retracted his claim that it is all a hoax?- SECONDHAND
Do you want to know how I know this is all a media-driven frenzy? It's by the almost random nature of accusations against Trump. When "pussy-grabber" failed to dent Trump's campaign, they moved on to "golden showers". When "golden showers" turned out to be a dry hole, it was "collusion". When Comey failed to disclose ANYthing related to Trump's potential "collusion" with Russia, they moved on to "obstruction". Since I predict the "obstruction" charge will go nowhere as well, a few more torpedoes have been loaded: yet another bogus charge about not "defending" the USA. Or vastly stretching the intention of the "emoluments" clause into yet another pointless accusation. This is redolent of how YOU got fooled into backing the Iraq war, or the endless wandering accusations against Bill Clinton.
The real threat to America is terrorism, but when Trump tried to do something about THAT, the "heroes" of our liberal system decided - despite overwhelming examples of actual terrorism by committed Wahhabist immigrants in western nations - to torpedo any sort of extra vetting of immigrants from nations which have been demonstrated to be exporters of terrorists.
Seriously, you've got your heads screwed on backwards. If there is a serious terror attack in the USA by Muslim immigrants, you should be blamed for not caring about American security.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
THUGR, JONESING FOR WWIII
All those guns 1kiki, are pointed towards your beloved Russia. All those cyber capabilities, pointed right at Russia. Thanks Putin, and get ready to duck.
I'll accept your apology any time, THUGR. But I know you're not man enough to give me one
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Tuesday, June 13, 2017 1:20 AM
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Originally posted by second:Quote:It is laughable. You never worked in an office, have you? If Trump doesn't hire experts, his "Make America Great Again" plan will not fly in the next 3.5 years. Congress doesn't have the experts to help Trump. Success or failure is all up to him and nobody else although I do expect him to blame everybody but himself when he campaigns in the Summer of 2020.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
lol
What does working in an office have to do with anything?
I have worked in an office. I've also worked in the political realm was well.
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