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UPDATED: Monday, February 14, 2022 07:11
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Originally posted by JO753:
U O !
The Senate iz increasing sanctionz on Russia AND making them Prezident proof!
Jee wizz! Wy woud they think they need to make them prezident proof? Coud there hav been sumthing in thoze closed hearingz that made them think they need to take sum precautionz.
But thats not the big U O! For Trump.
The BIG wun iz that Putin iz going to see that hiz puppet iznt going to be uzeable much longer. He will haf to put sum pressure on to squeez sum more rezults out uv him wile he still can. Probably that oil thing I mentioned in the other thred.
Maybe bom a mideast oil refinery? Make up a story and hit Iran? Rejigger sum Wall Street rulez? Do sumthing to hinder electric car development? Hard to chooze, kuz therez so many thingz that can trigger a crude oil prise hike.
In any case, Trump iz going to get cashed in by Putin az soon az he haz less value than the dirt Putin haz on him. It woud be a silly squanderaj to let Trump get dun in by hiz cover up, tossed in prizon and then do the big reveal.
So, U O!!!
Even your "nightmare scenario" of oil prices rising isn't all that high J0. There were several times thruought the obama administration where we were paying $4.25/gal to nearly $5.00/gal.
Made us think we we've been lucky that it's "only" around $2.25/gal - $2.50/gal the last few years.
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There could very well be bad things in his Taxes. I'm not just blindly defending him and saying that there aren't.
All I'm saying is it's a basic matter of ROI.
What would Trump have to gain by releasing his taxes voluntarily? The answer is nothing.
I guaranty that anybody with a business empire that large, even if everything is legal, has done things that could be spun as just plain awful to the useful idiots watching the MSM that don't know a thing about business and couldn't even do their own income taxes without H&R Block online.
I don't think that there is anything illegal in there. There could be, but I don't think there is. If there are indications that there are possible "evil" ties with Russia, the FBI SHOULD look into them.
There's no reason for him to release them to the public though with the daily slamming he's taken for over 6 months now by the MSM.
At this point it's way better to let the MSM speculate and put thoughts into the heads of the useful idiots than have a 12,000 page document given to them that would ensure countless material for Rachel Maddow to justify her $7 Million a year salary.
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Wow, try thinking things through before you post. If Trump released his taxes tomorrow and they showed no ties to Russia, nothing nefarious, proved he was as rich as he claims, it would be a win win for him.
So, why won't he?
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
There could very well be bad things in his Taxes. I'm not just blindly defending him and saying that there aren't.
All I'm saying is it's a basic matter of ROI.
What would Trump have to gain by releasing his taxes voluntarily? The answer is nothing.
I guaranty that anybody with a business empire that large, even if everything is legal, has done things that could be spun as just plain awful to the useful idiots watching the MSM that don't know a thing about business and couldn't even do their own income taxes without H&R Block online.
I don't think that there is anything illegal in there. There could be, but I don't think there is. If there are indications that there are possible "evil" ties with Russia, the FBI SHOULD look into them.
There's no reason for him to release them to the public though with the daily slamming he's taken for over 6 months now by the MSM.
At this point it's way better to let the MSM speculate and put thoughts into the heads of the useful idiots than have a 12,000 page document given to them that would ensure countless material for Rachel Maddow to justify her $7 Million a year salary.
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Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Even your "nightmare scenario" of oil prices rising isn't all that high J0. There were several times thruought the obama administration where we were paying $4.25/gal to nearly $5.00/gal.
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It never got much over 4$ for me sins 2008. Samz Club iz usually at least 20c cheaper than the next lowest plase. See that big drop in 2008? I wun a bet predicting that! A frend wuz misled by Glen Beck to believ we were on our way to 10$ gas!
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Originally posted by JO753:Quote:
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
Even your "nightmare scenario" of oil prices rising isn't all that high J0. There were several times thruought the obama administration where we were paying $4.25/gal to nearly $5.00/gal.
https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPM
R_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W
It never got much over 4$ for me sins 2008. Samz Club iz usually at least 20c cheaper than the next lowest plase. See that big drop in 2008? I wun a bet predicting that! A frend wuz misled by Glen Beck to believ we were on our way to 10$ gas!
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DUZ XaT SEM RiT TQ YQ? - Jubal Early
http://www.7532020.com
We had nearly $5 a gallon by me a few times. Especially over the boarder in Illinois close to Chicago. The way things were going who could blame somebody for predicting $10 a gallon. Everybody freaked when gas hit over $2/gal back in 2000 and now that's considered a great bargain today.
It was low for a while when Obama was in and his term ended relatively low. Don't forget all the times where you were paying over $4/gal in between though.
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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Wow, try thinking things through before you post. If Trump released his taxes tomorrow and they showed no ties to Russia, nothing nefarious, proved he was as rich as he claims, it would be a win win for him.
Try reading a full fucking post before you reply with your ignorant opinion, idiot.
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Quote:All I am saying is that releasing his taxes as a candidate was a matter of basic decency up until the point Robert Mueller subpoenas the returns.
Originally posted by 6stringJoker:
All I'm saying is it's a basic matter of ROI.
What would Trump have to gain by releasing his taxes voluntarily? The answer is nothing.
If Trump is one of those indecent people whose every move is controlled by ROI (and he is) he obviously would cheat big time because it is so easy to do and a tax cheater's ROI is ENORMOUS.
Besides the certainty he was cheating, Trump can't stop himself from tweeting, either.
Democrats are begging Trump: "Please don't stop tweeting about the witch hunt. Thank you for waiving executive privilege w/ your tweets" https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/875690204564258816
Even his own internal advisors seem to have washed their hands of the problem. A White House spokeswoman referred questions about why no one in the administration was able to halt the apparent self-sabotage to Trump’s outside lawyer, Mark Kasowitz. Kasowitz didn’t return a call to his office.
Rosenstein, meanwhile, is conducting his job as if he isn’t being targeted by the president of the United States. Rosenstein is the one person in the US government who has the authority to fire Robert Mueller. Rosenstein is a career justice department civil servant who has worked under five presidents. If Trump fires Rosenstein because Trump can't fire Mueller, Trump will dump a truckload of cow manure on his own head.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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If Trump is one of those indecent people whose every move is controlled by ROI (and he is) he obviously would cheat big time because it is so easy to do and a tax cheater's ROI is ENORMOUS.
The ROI on tax cheating is not ENORMOUS. Part of weighing out ROI is comparing possible benefits against possible consequences of your actions. Saving a few million here or there by outright breaking the law when you have a business the size of Trump's is potential career suicide.
Again, I'm not saying that he didn't do it. I just don't think that he did.
There are plenty of ways to avoid taxes legally, and I'm quite sure that the accountants and tax attorneys on his team took advantage of every single one of them for what they're likely getting paid. (He even admitted to the public already that there were years that he did not pay taxes, so I don't know what your point about this all is).
Maddow and Olberman would have countless hours worth of shows pouring over those things and vilifying Trump for them. The only people who would look at what they were talking about and say "Who the fuck cares? That's business." are other large corporation big-shots who know that's just how the game is played.
It's a no brainier not releasing those to the public when he doesn't have to.
Don't ever expect to see them, voluntarily or otherwise. It's not going to happen. They may subpoena them for investigation, but there is no way those are ever going to be released to the public unless they are illegally leaked or somebody changes the law to state that any president or presidential candidate MUST disclose their tax returns to the public.
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Am I mistaken that being found gilty uv cheating on your taxez endz your rite to privasy?
And I suspect that being convicted uv treazon will sertainly hav that effect also. The trial will involv Trumps financial entanglements to Russia and the detailz uv that will include hiz tax returnz.
Then therez the issue uv hiz corporationz, wich hav no privasy rites.
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Originally posted by JO753:
Am I mistaken that being found gilty uv cheating on your taxez endz your rite to privasy?
Yes. When it comes to the public seeing them you are.
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And I suspect that being convicted uv treazon will sertainly hav that effect also. The trial will involv Trumps financial entanglements to Russia and the detailz uv that will include hiz tax returnz.
Dream on buddy. You're living the Democratic Wet Dream in La La land.
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Then therez the issue uv hiz corporationz, wich hav no privasy rites.
Oh they certainly do. And they've got the top lawyers in the country protecting them.
Do me a favor and try to get the tax returns for say Coca-Cola and let me know if you turn up anything fruitful.
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