'Transgender'...Looking at National Geographic Magazine....
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It's far worse than abuse. It's mutilation, torture. It's based on the fantasy of the child's sexuality. It's a child and doesn't have a sexuality.
This is moral relativism, invented in Frankfurt by Marcuse et al to destroy us, and no conspiracy theory, they were the enemy (Germany) and that was their stated goal, and now everyone's drinking their toxic koolaid.
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Quote:Another baseless pile of nonsense. You are indeed the hateful one, here. And terribly uninformed. The low information type, for sure.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:Except since that's not what's happening here, the person who is spewing deep-seated hate seems to be you. Yanno, like this:
It's pathetic watching the usual reichwingers here looking desperately for someone or something on which to spew their deep seated hate.Quote:
Why don't you pack up your hatred and fuck off?
See? THAT'S deep-seated hate!
Now, if you want a refresher as to what I've been saying: I don't think it's a good idea to have children undergo irreversible surgery for something that may be a psychological issue. I heard (on NPR) that roughly half of the kids who identify with the other gender at some point in their young lives will change their minds again at puberty. I'll see if I can find that study.
Also, since people are literally dying for lack of medical care, I'm not sure insurance dollars should be spent to treat gender dysphoria. I really don't have any personal animus against the transgendered. I DO have an issue with self-righteous liberals.
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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Fight it all you want. The future isn't yours.
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Two extremes?
FIRST CHINA
Cross-dresser beaten for entering women's restroom
https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=55e_1484404069&comments=1
China, unlike progressive countries like the US, does not tolerate cross-gender restrooms.
???
Then USA
Cuomo Suggests 12 Yr Old Girls Are The Problem If They Don’t Want To See A Male’s Genitals
CNN Talking Head Goes On Twitter Meltdown
Mark Dice
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Euless Trinity transgender wrestler Mack Beggs met with boos after advancing to semifinals at UIL state tournament
http://sportsday.dallasnews.com/high-school/high-schools/2017/02/24/fo
rfeits-euless-trinity-transgender-wrestler-mack-beggs-wins-first-state-tournament-match
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Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
It's far worse than abuse. It's mutilation, torture. It's based on the fantasy of the child's sexuality. It's a child and doesn't have a sexuality.
That's not true. My kid had crushes on boys before she knew what sex was as she told me so. I had crushes on boys at a young age, and all my girl friends did as well. I had a crush on my male swim teacher when I was 5. Hello, "PUPPY LOVE" ??
What is a crush but an extension of a biological drive to mate? Children cannot give consent to mate, but unfortunately gender based decisions must be performed before puberty to be effective. It's a catch 22. If it was just a fantasy, I highly doubt they would have that fantasy all the way through puberty and far unto adulthood. What about body dysmorphia? Many of those people get limbs and bits cut off and are much happier. I don't think fantasy alone would account for that kind of a knowingly deleterious drive... I think they never received innate files during formation in the womb, the ones that form self-image.
If a male kid was effeminate and liked Broadway plays, pretty sure most people would say "gay". If my female kid was masculine and liked collecting guns and trucks and wearing flannel I doubt anyone would say that that is a stereotypically female neurology. The brain controls all, is it just that people cannot see the subtle clues of a gender disorder?? Most of the kids that decide to go Trans display non-stereotypical gender cues from a young age.
Again, I don't see how it's ANYONE'S business but the parent, the child, and the doctor. I don't care what anyone else thinks of my body, why should anyone think they get a say in anyone else's?? All they can do is take the leap and hope the kid is happy, but it's not like it can't be reversed AGAIN, so again....WHAT IS IT TO YOU?
The money argument is just a shallow one. All kinds of people "mutilate" themselves, whether it's pierced ears, or bigger boobs or manhood. WE DON'T GIVE THOSE PEOPLE HALF AS MUCH CRAP AS THE TRANSGENDERS. What is the difference??
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WISHIMAY,
While i am loathe to bump this thread about child mutilation, you wrote directly to me, so I'll respond.
I was a fashion major. Quote:
body dysmorphia
See Kalifornia, if you haven't. Some people just aren't happy unless they're killing, raping and mutilating. And some people want to listen to everything a five year old says as grounds for mutilation.
I like you, I really do. I don't want to look under the hood here, because you're making Rappy look like a liberal. Either commie media fed you a line, or there's something deeply disturbed that horror movies are made from that I don't want to know.
Jewish Taoist DT, body is a temple, that's all, and because he's not here to say it
Keep the Shiny side up.
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That's some good points there. When is too early? When is too late?
I remember crushes on girls when I was like 5 years old. I wouldn't even know what was happening if it wasn't for cartoons (remember twitterpated?). My parents never got around to telling me anything until long after I already learned it or figured it out for myself.
It's easy to look back and say I was just a dumb kid. I can look back at any point in my life and say that about myself really, but I definitely didn't think of myself as dumb when I was a kid.
This is a HUGE choice though... so you have to ask yourself when is the proper time to allow it? It's less frequent today, but I still change my mind on things from time to time. When I was a kid I could change my mind on what I wanted in the middle of a sentence.
I agree it's nobody's business but the parent and the child, and whatever doctor or support group they have (and they're going to need a support group, because kids are assholes). I just don't agree that it should be paid for with taxpayer dollars.
Welcome back Wish. I trust you had a relaxing vacation?
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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A viking ship reenactment?
What was I supposed to see?
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/magazine/2017/03/vikings-ship-burial
s-battle-reenactor
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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Quote:
Originally posted by DREAMTROVE:
It's far worse than abuse. It's mutilation, torture. It's based on the fantasy of the child's sexuality. It's a child and doesn't have a sexuality.
This is moral relativism, invented in Frankfurt by Marcuse et al to destroy us, and no conspiracy theory, they were the enemy (Germany) and that was their stated goal, and now everyone's drinking their toxic koolaid.
Gender and sexuality are not the same thing.
People whose psychological experience of their gender that differs to their genitalia can be found in cultures all over the world, often with much more acceptance
Hijra (for translations, see [n 1]) is a term used in South Asia – particularly in India and Pakistan – to refer to transgender individuals who are born male.[1][2] In different areas of Pakistan and India, transgender people are also known as Aravani, Aruvani or Jagappa.[3]
In Pakistan, India and Bangladesh, the hijras are officially recognized as third gender by the government,[4][5] being neither completely male nor female. The term more commonly advocated by social workers and transgender community members themselves is khwaja sira (Urdu: ????? ????) and can identify the individual as a transsexual person, transgender person (khusras), cross-dresser (zenanas) or eunuch (narnbans).[6][7]
Hijras have a recorded history in the Indian subcontinent from antiquity onwards as suggested by the Kama Sutra period. This history features a number of well-known roles within subcontinental cultures, part gender-liminal, part spiritual and part survival.
Kathoey or katoey (Thai: ?????; rtgs: Kathoei [kàt???j]) is a Thai term that refers to either a transgender woman or an effeminate gay male in Thailand. A significant number of Thais perceive kathoeys as belonging to a third gender, including many kathoeys themselves, while others see them as either a kind of man or a kind of woman.[1] However, when considering transgender women (MtF) as a group in Thai society, most refer to themselves as phuying (Thai: ??????? "women"), with a minority referring to themselves as phuying praphet song (a "second kind of woman") and only very few referring to themselves as kathoey.[2] Related phrases include phet thi sam (Thai: ?????????, "third gender"), and sao praphet song or phu ying praphet song (Thai: ????????????, ????????????????— both meaning "second-type female"). The word kathoey is of Khmer origin.[3] It is most often rendered as ladyboy or lady boy in English conversation with Thais and this latter expression has become popular across Southeast Asia.
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Camille Paglia doesn't make her case.
There are MANY societies that failed over human history. In fact when you look around at the extant societies, you can calculate that EVERY SOCIETY, with the exceptions of the ones around today, are deader n' a doornail. Did they ALL fail due to cultural corruption? I seriously doubt it.
For example, the Vikings of Greenland didn't go extinct because they experienced cultural dissipation. If anything, it was their rigid adherence to the cultural norm of dairying, and an inability to adapt enough and take advantage of the seas' bounty, that did them in.
If you look at Rome, what many people have pointed out is that the literal cost of maintaining an Empire did them in. Their paradigm of 'expand or die' was intrinsically unsustainable.
Do I agree with anything based on Camille Paglia's premise?
99.9% no.
How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
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