'Transgender'...Looking at National Geographic Magazine....
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'Transgender'...Looking at National Geographic Magazine....So who has lead to America's social decline? Christofascists? Immigrant Mohamedans? Regressive Left? Cultural Relativists?
A weird photo meets you on the cover of the National Mag, you get used to see pics of maybe mountains, animals, tribes in the Amazon, maybe a NASA photo of the stars, or some ocean wave or colored insect
www.nationalgeographic.com
A 'unique' pic to say the least is on the latest Magazine
I have always been hearing stories from the Right on America's Social Decline or some 'Conspiracy' so to speak
Wasn't there some athlete dude we can't talk about on tv? a transgender agenda kardaysheian or something?
an Androgynous meida Puppet awarded woman of the year?
Is society a weird freak show now and is there a drug agenda on tv?
So maybe you feel its all fine
maybe there is too much smut, violence and porn on tv today?
the religious Conservatives will talk of a homosexual agenda?
but maybe its always been part of the human mindset and its not an actual agenda
conspiracy will say Rome burning? a nation in debt? drugs on the street? Wars a country can not afford to pay for? So does worship of the 'Hermaphroditus' mark the end of a civilization? Islam in some passages allows and promotes a sex or love between people and siblings of the same sex, other passages may contradict which is why Islam is also know for throwing gays off rofftops. Dahomey, once had a society in West Africa, Egypt conquered them while they still worshiped a Mawu-Lisa, and just before the Spanish arrived you had Xochipilli, the Aztec god of homosexuality...that's before Spain teamed up with all those ethnic groups and cultures the Aztec were sacrificing...and over ran the Empire ending the Aztec culture and in Babylon the god Ishtar, changed male gods? making them feminine. Hindu mythology had many examples of deities changing gender, manifesting as different genders at different times, or combining to form androgynous or hermaphroditic beings.
the cover
a recent study showed that the suicide rate among “transgendered” people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among normal people.
and a question what is morality
and before you ask I have nothing against gays or transgender rights or whatever. Most are cool in my book but....I'm not 100% with them
because facts are California is fucking weird at times, I mean like a fucking freak show and there is an element of sickness in the community and they are over represented in tv, magazines, radio music and the media....not that they should not be represented but sometimes it feels like PC-bullshit culture
they are like what less than ONE PERCENT of the total population?
I rarely watch tv if ever but when I do catch sight, it feels too much like the whole USSR duck and cover days....or the days tv told you smoking is good for your health?
the 'trans' thing might be a new flavor of old propaganda, another old tv agenda?
A woman pumping herself full of man drugs and 'roids and wanting to wear a plastic 'penis' and taking more drugs? a guy trying to hard to be feminine and saving up money to go to a doctor so he can cut off the guys dick...I mean WTF? Are people who identify themselves as "transgendered" are they just mentally ill or simply unhappy, and pointed out that hormone therapy and surgery are not appropriate treatments for psychosis or unhappiness. Maybe the current political and California weird protocol is founded upon “unscientific gender ideology,” which lacks any basis in real evidence.
maybe its all ok then, fine?
or maybe there is too much on tv and it feels like an 'agenda' now?
one last thing, some Doctors are not good
once in a while they are weird, narcissistic, perverts
Psychological Horror Studies, take one Case of David Reimer
unethical doctor expert case study that involved David/Bruce
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The possible horror is it could be we look back on this age as a huge mistake, USA has already raised a childhood of thousands of Reimer(s)? The “transgender” craze currently being promoted by mass media as “the next civil rights frontier” what if it is in fact a mental illness and its promotion is aiding and abetting disorders, that's what the former chief psychiatrist for the Johns Hopkins Hospital said.
but its about equality
help all peoples
some will say
so maybe society has gone in the good direction
others the Conservatives the Religious the 'Moral Freaks'
may declare a weirdo horror show
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It's a little difficult to know what to make of America's current obsession with transgender identity. Is it a real expression of an "inborn" identity? ARE there inborn gender identities? Or just the latest Soros-funded fad?
I tend to think that being transgender is usually something you're born with, just like being heterosexual or gay is something that you're born with. OTOH, humans ave behaviorally flexible .... I suspect that one of my lesbian friends is reacting to the fact that she was molested by her stepdad when she was young; maybe if her experience with men wasn't so godawful at such a young age she would have grown up differently.
It seems to me that many men (but not all) who become women have a tendency to really "doll up" - they go the whole hair-makeup-nailpolish-high heel route. But for most women, there isn't such a desire to SHOUT one's sex. The whole hair-makeup-nailpolish-highheels route gets in the way of being a nanny, or a housecleaner, or a scientist, or a mother, or a doctor, any number of other things that real women do. Men who doll up as women ... what are they aiming for? It's as if they're aspiring to be a caricature, and I don't understand the reaction that they're looking for.
And does it matter anyway? I mean, most of the time I don't feel like I have "I am a woman" tattooed on my forehead ... I'm a lot of things BESIDES being a woman and I don't understand this deep, deep unhappiness with being treated as the "wrong" gender because EVERYBODY is more than just a gender.
But ok... whatever. Let's assume for whatever reason that many people are born transgender, and that their biological identity really, really bothers them. If we assume that is the case, then there are also people who are born autistic, some people who are born pedophiles, some people who are born sociopaths, some people are born sadistic, some people born stupid, some people born authoritarian ... Just because these are "inborn" responses doesn't necessarily make them socially desirable or functional. Do we really want to socially enable sociopaths to be even more sociopathic, and the pedophiles to prey on children, the stupid to be ignorant?
Now, IMHO, people being gay .... no skin off my nose. Personally, I'm for gay marriage - I'd rather see people who love each other and who are committed to each other being allowed to express that part of themselves.
People who are transgender, OTOH, require specialized surgical and hormonal services to help the become how they "feel". In a society where so many people lack critical medical and dental care, I find it almost criminal draw resources away from other people who need them more. "Transgender" treatment is a rich-person's option. So while I don't see anything "wrong" with being transgender, it's not something I would spend a great deal of money "fixing" until more important medical issues were addressed first.
Hubby believes that we need to elevate the status of traditional gender roles, with women being the tender and loving nurturer, and men being the protector. I agree that a society what takes raising its children SERIOUSLY (unlike this society, which simply wants to raise indoctrinated droids) needs to elevate the role of nurturer. But IMHO there's enough resources in our society where not everybody needs to be filling a critical productive or reproductive role. But if an economy and society gets so bogged down in attending to it's "deviants" that it is no longer self-sustaining, then resource allocation needs to change.
BTW, I suspect that the presence of flexible-gender gods, or homosexual gods, or male gods twinned with female gods is not so much an expression of gender flexibility as it reflects the changing power structure of society. Our "gods" and how we construct them seems to reflect the hierarchy of society more
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
People who are transgender, OTOH, require specialized surgical and hormonal services to help the become how they "feel". In a society where so many people lack critical medical and dental care, I find it almost criminal draw resources away from other people who need them more. "Transgender" treatment is a rich-person's option. So while I don't see anything "wrong" with being transgender, it's not something I would spend a great deal of money "fixing" until more important medical issues were addressed first.
We make accommodations for pretty much everything else (as long as it doesn't hurt other people, for that is where your rights stop) so I have no problem with transgenders doing to themselves whatever they want to do. I do suspect that- like eating disorders- being trans has more to do with OCD than even they know, but then again, most people who go full Trans also have an androgynous or other gender look about them, so it's quite possible that there is a mental component that we don't even vaguely know about yet.
We aren't a "poor people only" country. They have the right to be free with themselves, even if you don't agree with it.
As a woman who scores higher on the male side of gender based logic tests than 90% of women, there is more of this world than we know, Plato...
BTW, I read the other day that there are over 36 variants of gender/sexed related disorders, like women who have no vagina, or men that are born with both genders' sexual organs. They think they are far more prevalent than reported. It's a shame most people don't know that and that we can't even have a public dialogue about it with out bible thumpers getting irate.
We aren't an "either/or" species, that's for sure..
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Quote:No, we don't. Autistics don't get adequate schooling. Autistics don't get adequate therapy. There are almost NO "accomodations" for adults with autism, and they die very early deaths, on the average, most often from an undiagnosed seizure disorder, so it's rather clear that autistics don't get adequate neurological and medical care either.
We make accommodations for pretty much everything else (as long as it doesn't hurt other people, for that is where your rights stop)
Quote:Not a question of rights, it's a question of money: Do we, as a society, believe that treating transgender identity is a reasonable expenditure of public or common healthcare money?
so I have no problem with transgenders doing to themselves whatever they want to do.
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If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Not a question of rights, it's a question of money: Do we, as a society, believe that treating transgender identity is a reasonable expenditure of public or common healthcare money?
There's the million dollar question Sigs.
Fiscally speaking, I look at this issue the exact same way as I do Abortion. The government should not be involved, period. That means they cannot pass laws prohibiting you from doing it, but they also cannot fund these operations on tax dollars either.
I can't get the necessary surgery I require to have a healthy mouth, even though I've been told by a Periodontist and a D.D.S. that by ignoring it I could be doing serious damage to my heart among other things. Even if I had good health insurance from a great job today, it would cover very little of the procedures. Outside of regular dental checkups and the occasional cavity, dental care is viewed by the insurance industry as "Cosmetic".
I actually have no problems with transgendered people on a social/moral level. The idea that my tax dollars could fund those operations while my jaw rots and my teeth begin to fall out of my mouth is appalling though.
Do Right, Be Right. :)
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Where do transgender convicts end up being incarcerated?
http://www.postregister.com/articles/news-daily-email-todays-headlines
-nation-world/2017/01/05/transgender-voyeur-sentenced
The director holds final approval and can ask for additional findings or have the offender housed at a facility corresponding with their gender identity within four months of approval.
from a writer making waves
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History Study Shows: Right before ALL ancient societies COLLAPSED homosexuality SPRUNG UP high!
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Ever since North Carolina became the first U.S. state to require transgender people to use restrooms in public buildings and schools that match the sex on their birth certificate rather than their gender identity – the “transgender” political issue has dominated American media headlines.
Best-selling feminist author, social critic and self-described "transgender being" Camille Paglia said in an interview that the rise of transgenderism in the West is a symptom of decadence and cultural collapse.
"Nothing... better defines the decadence of the West to the jihadists than our toleration of open homosexuality and this transgender mania now," Paglia said during an October 22 interview on the Brazilian television program Roda Viva.
Paglia also said during the interview that "transgender propagandists" are overstating their case.
Camille Paglia, an American college professor and social critic, is one of a kind: a feminist who objects to almost every form of feminism known to womankind; a sexual radical who believes in complete freedom of sexual expression, yet a realist who insists that women have to take full responsibility for the sexual choices they make; and a lesbian who objects to the current censorship of any discussion about the causes of homosexuality.
Today’s college students
“They have no sense of the great patterns of world history, the rise and fall of civilisations like Babylon and Rome that became very sexually tolerant, and then fell. If you’ve had no exposure to that, you can honestly believe that ‘There is progress all around us and we are moving to an ideal state of culture, where we all hold hands and everyone is accepted for what they are … and the environment will be pure…’ – a magical utopian view that we are marching to perfection. And the sign of this progress is toleration – of the educated class – for homosexuality, or for changing gender, or whatever.
“To me it’s a sign of the opposite, it’s symptomatic of a civilisation just before it falls: ‘we’ are very tolerant, not passionate, but there are bands of vandals and destroyers circling around the edge of our civilisation who will bring it down.”
On homosexuality
“There is censorship of discussion about the causes of various gender issues – for at least 25 years, now, in the case of homosexuality itself. In the 1980s there was talk of finding a gay gene, but when that was not found, silence [became the rule]. To even raise the question of how homosexuality is caused is considered homophobic. But I think it is imperative for everyone to ask questions about matters of development of the personality and sexual orientation.
“I’m waiting for some brave young gays to protest against the censorship.”
On identity politics and transgenderism
“This hyper-self-consciousness about ‘Who am I? Where exactly am I on the gender spectrum?’ is mere navel-gazing, while in the Middle East ISIS is beheading people. It is a kind of madness of self-absorption.”
Noting that Hillary Clinton gave transgenders specific mention at the beginning and end of a rally speech last week, the interviewer asks why this issue gets so much attention in the news.
Paglia throws up her hands in exasperation at the daily coverage of “transgender bathrooms” in the US media. She suggests it is “symptomatic of people feeling that world events are out of their control.” Transgender activists can be very aggressive, she adds. As for the others:
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No, we don't. Autistics don't get adequate schooling. Autistics don't get adequate therapy.
Not a question of rights, it's a question of money:
I think you are painting with a pretty big brush. And I am mostly referring to children. They get plenty of educational accommodations. Mine got special allowances for testing and time and electronics. That's what I'm referring to. ADD and Aspergers and Dyslexia and Bi-polar and dozens of other disorders ARE accommodated. Maybe not to your standards, but enough for many kids. And there are many adult vocational programs as well. There is a limit to how much therapy is practical for someone who won't ever be a productive member of society, no matter how much you care for them.
I'm sure if your kid was transgender and was constantly trying to commit suicide because every time they looked down they felt as if their body was hijacked by an alien, you might see things differently. And Transgenders can be functioning members of society, so I think the cost is justified in the long run...
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
I actually have no problems with transgendered people on a social/moral level. The idea that my tax dollars could fund those operations while my jaw rots and my teeth begin to fall out of my mouth is appalling though.
THE DIFFERENCE IS....... THEY DIDN"T DO IT TO THEMSELVES BY BEING A "GENIUS" AND SMOKING AND DRINKING THEMSELVES STUPID.
You pay the price for the things YOU do. These kids didn't DO anything to be born different.
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Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
History Study Shows: Right before ALL ancient societies COLLAPSED homosexuality SPRUNG UP high!
Wow, yer probably the second biggest idiot on this board, der der der...
ALL societies collapse, for many reasons.
Rome collapsed partially because they used a crap ton of lead in their water supply...they had inadequate border protection because half the country didn't pay their soldiers enough, and had lazy, incompetent leadership. NOT A DAMN THING TO DO WITH SEX. Stupid ass.
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