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Brenda: No it wasn't quite as drastic as, "I'll make sure your line dies with you." But being Metis they could have destroyed their farms and burned their towns or villages. It was back in the day when the law said whatever it wanted especially when it came to Metis or First Nations. The RCMP, who were the first police or arm of the government at that time could shoot a Metis person or First Nations person and no one would bat an eye. Back then Canada didn't have a true constitution. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.14 09:27 |
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| Brenda: I probably could find out something about the case. He was tried for treason in Canada. Sir John A's government brought the charges. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.14 09:21 | |||||||||
6ixStringJack: Always got to keep in mind that minds and societal norms are a lot different in 2025 than they were back then. You definitely didn't have 1.2 Million Lawyers sleazing it up in the US back then. 
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| 6ixStringJack: Without knowing anything except that it took place a long time before I was born, not going to lie... but I'll bet they just put onto paper whatever they wanted to. Whatever happened might not have been legal or constitutional. Who was going to do anything about it? Not like somebody was going to go on twitter and announce it to the world. Those were back in the days of "you do that and I'll not only shoot you down, but I'll burn your village to the ground and make sure your lineage dies along with you?. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.14 05:02 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: Can you find any historical legal stuff about the case? He was tried for treason here or in Canada? - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.14 04:59 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Here is something else for the Riel question. How to do you put someone on trial for treason, who isn't technically a citizen. Metis were and are considered Indian. So, to do that the Federal government must have considered him "French" thereby giving him citizenship, so they could do that. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.14 03:48 | |||||||||
Brenda: It seems like it. Never know but I am happy knowing what I know with computers, unless I hit a real snag then it may be time to hit the books. 
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05.13 23:36
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6ixStringJack: So many paralells. Like I said, if you happened to have been interested in computers more, you would have already figured out more than you ever needed to know. It ain't rocket science. I'd probably struggle more with knitting than you'd do with coding I'd bet.
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05.13 10:10
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Brenda: I hear ya. I stopped knitting and crocheting for around 5 or 6 years. The crocheting came back faster. Had to look old knitting patterns I have to remember the knitting. But that was all. The clarinet doesn't need fixing. The reeds are a thin piece of wood that you put into the mouth piece. And it helps to make the different note sounds. They come in different thicknesses and they were pretty cheap the last time someone gave me a couple. Now, I don't know. To find a price I would have to look them up on line.
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05.13 09:40
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| 6ixStringJack: Yeah... That's about my experince with what I'm working on right now too. Last time I did any real work on it was almost 8 years ago by now, so there was about 7 years in between where I didn't have any practice. Some of it comes right back to you, but if I wasn't always super diligent at taking notes, I don't know if I really could have gotten back into it on this level. How much does it cost to fix the clarinet? - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.13 04:00 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: The adults are having a conversation here, Theodore. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.13 03:58 | |||||||||
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| Brenda: That's cool. I've learned a good number of things by doing over the years. And have been able to pick them up again if I haven't done them in years. Like knitting and crocheting. Had to relearn both after not doing them for a good long time. And once I've gotten a feel for it again it becomes muscle memory. I would imagine that if I could get back to my clarinet (which needs new reeds), it would be the same thing. I would hope. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.12 09:40 | |||||||||
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6ixStringJack: Hehe. Been known to step on a few toes myself. Sometimes I luck out and the right person at the right time sees a coding request I've made and I get some assistance with automation. I've even been able to take code others have written for me and made it do other things without needing to bother them again. I just can't be arsed to learn and commit to memory all the basics and the ins and outs. I'm not interested in the coding itself. I'm only using it as a means to do what I'm interested in. Often times for me that just means a lot of persistence, trial and error and brute forcing things until they work right. But at least I've learned enough to do some of it automatically, and enough to know when something I want to do isn't going to be coded by anybody that I have access too and just needs to be done by hand.
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Brenda: I am terrible with math but you need it to become an archaeologist. The reason for that is you need to be able to lay out a grid pattern and such for digging. But truthfully I hate it. When I was in high school just after VCRs came out, I learned how to wire one up to a tv. Teacher one day had a video to run but she couldn't connect the VCR to the tv. And apparently no one else in the class could. So, I got up and went over and did it. My dad always said if you can do something that no one else can. Don't worry about stepping on toes, just go do it.
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05.11 09:00
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Brenda: I guess that is true. But with history I find there isn't too much technical stuff unless you are discussing inventions like da Vinci's work. If you are talking people and maybe motivations for why they did certain things or certain events happened, then you get my attention. I do have a habit of picking stray bits of information, like a magpie. Do it with languages too. I was in a college class one time and the teacher asked, "Whose colony was New York before it became British?" Without thinking I said, "Dutch." The whole classes eyes were on me. Then he asked, "What was it's name?" Had to think for a minute and said, "New Amsterdam." Again whole classes eyes on me and I even heard, "How'd she know that?" I have no idea but I picked it up somewhere and it got lodged in my brain. And yes sometimes things can be used in writing with some tweaking.
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05.11 08:54
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| Brenda: Yes, I can see what you are saying about computers. Course there are also a good number of people in the field, if you know one or a good shop to go to. You could be set. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.11 08:44 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: It's why college never was for me too. Couldn't pass College Algebra and Trig to save my life, but they told me they required that class that would never help me do anything else for the rest of my life no matter what job I got. But I can make old tech do some awesome things and I've been known to fix a car or two without any training. ;) - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.11 06:53 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: My knowledge with computers would be somewhat similar to yours with history. You don't particularly enjoy doing the research or the idea of writing up technical stuff, but you're more than willing to go out of your way with something that is interesting to you or could help inspire more of what you actually are interested in writing. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.11 06:51 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: I don't know as much as I lead on. Never did, but never needed too. Computers aren't really all that complicated once you know some under-the-hood basics really well and you develop the ability to correctly and reliably be able to research what you need to know how to do, and that's gotten way easier over the years. Knowing that you would know how to fix problems as they come up is more important than being able to fix one specific problem from knowledge alone. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.11 06:50 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Computer stuff. I am limited on my knowledge. I can do certain things and maybe fix my own mistakes by trial and error. But when it comes to bigger stuff and complicated, my knowledge is like what I know about cars. It can fit on the head of a pin. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.11 04:38 | |||||||||
| Brenda: I get ya. Sometimes as you said to me it helps to write things out so you can see what you need to ask, which can lead you to answers or in my case more questions. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.11 04:36 | |||||||||
| Brenda: No, I'm more of a straight-up fiction girl when it comes to my writing. Though I do consider myself a history buff. As I said that is why I do everything long hand so I can change things if I need to are add more detail which is what the poet wants me to for a piece. Will get to that on Sunday. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.11 04:34 | |||||||||
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6ixStringJack: In the past week, I've solved 3 pretty big hurdles on my own, just by writing them out here and other places. I'm dealing with a fairly complex directory tree structure on an OS that I'm not very familiar with. But I'm learning more about it every day and something that had been bothering me for days suddenly just clicked in my mind and I was able to find a single config file buried deeply in another area of the tree that I just had to make a few tweaks to and the problem went away. I probably wouldn't have ended up there had I not written it out and edited that post a few times.
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05.10 23:46
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| 6ixStringJack: Though I'm not writing a a book, there is a fair deal of writing involved in just a portion of what I'm doing. More like mini-articles, than anything else. Mostly information written by others, but sometimes needing edits because what they have is far too verbose for the setting. I do go out of my way to clean as much of that up as I can as I find it, and I find it while adding and testing other aspects and tying it all in together and doing more testing. Eventually I end up weeding everything bad out or finding how and why I missed something in the process. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 23:43 | |||||||||
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6ixStringJack: Glad to help if you got anything useful out of it. I had a good feeling that you weren't interested in writing non-fiction historical accounts yourself.
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05.10 23:40
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| Brenda: No, I'm not really down with the idea of writing a historical book. Not at this point anyways. I do in a way want to dig into my question a little more and see what I can come up with. And of course I could pass on my notes and ideas to someone who is a historian. Pretty good ideas you got there SIX. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 22:59 | |||||||||
| Brenda: That's why I started this first book I am working on in ink. Pen and paper for everything I've done, then type written and now the computer. And that as you said let's you work out minor details or add more details to what you are working on. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 22:56 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: If you're not down with writing non-fiction, I don't think you necessarily have to be the one writing the historical book. Maybe through your research you can come up with a new story to tell that you haven't thought up yet, and you'll have a lot of notes and ideas that you didn't have before about events you didn't know took place. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 09:59 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: It's a good exercise. Just writing things down and bouncing ideas out there even when you don't really expect somebody to reply necessarily. I find that quite a lot of times when I do it I end up coming at a problem with a different perspective, which usually results in making something impossible possible or making a monumental task at least a bit less monumental if I'm lucky. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 09:57 | |||||||||
| Brenda: No worries and you have a point. Sometimes it just takes a person to ask a question to get answers or come up with a new idea. A book about this subject would have to historical. Oh, I did go to that website which lists universities in the US. But the home page wasn't helpful, so I googled Montana to find the university there. I accessed their library and while everything is available on PDF for reading there is nothing helpful there. The books are on his life in Canada and his hanging by Sir John A's government on a charge of treason. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 09:47 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: Though I can't/won't go into any real details with my own project(s) right now, that's what I'm doing in a way even though it has nothing to do with literature. Something doesn't exist that I feel should exist. Ain't nobody else going to make it for me, so I'm going to make it myself. All that data and all that text that Google scrapes when we ask it a question came from somewhere. Somebody asking questions just like you're doing right now. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 07:39 | |||||||||
6ixStringJack: Sounds to me like maybe you should be writing another book. 
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05.10 07:36
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| Brenda: I have when I was in high school or going to college where I did read a book on Riel. I mean heck, my teacher at time had to leaned me a book about my own people! Because there was nothing in the college library in the books he talked about. Also misspelt "Nez Perce" there should be no "a" there. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 03:02 | |||||||||
| Brenda: My curiosity leads me on these tracks and also maybe no one has ever asked the question of why. Why didn't a figure like Riel who was Metis rise in the US? - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 02:55 | |||||||||
| Brenda: Course as for the US, it was war leaders that arose. Men like Geronimo and Sitting Bull, though I would include Chief Joseph of the Nez Pearce from Washington state as well in that group. This people hardly fired a shot. He just led the US army on a grand chase through the mountains of Washington state. They got as far as the border but something stopped them from crossing. I think he and his people were too tired and hungry as well as sick. So he had no choice but turn his people over to the army. Though there was also the rise of the Ghost Dance on the plains too in the US. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 02:52 | |||||||||
| Brenda: I don't know about anything like that in my area for historical books and materials. I know from my library you can download digital books as long as you have a library card. But I think I would have to look outside BC for more information, like in Manitoba. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.10 02:46 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: I'm pretty sure that you can do something through archive.org too, and you can "rent" digital books from there with an account. Not sure if you need to sign up with any credit cards at any point to use it. I have an account there for other reasons and I've never tried renting a book through them before. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.09 23:26 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: This could open up the amount of books available to you by quite a bit if you've got access to a system like that. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.09 23:25 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: Man... I hope you can figure some of that out. I have a hard time finding out information from the 1980's and 1990's. I think you might have to be doing research offline to know more about this. Nothing at your library? Does Canada have any system in place where you can temporarily download "rental" books like they do here in America? I don't know exactly how it works, but they have a collective digital book exchange program thing out there where you can "rent" an online licensed copy. I would think you could be able to get something like that done without a credit card. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.09 23:24 | |||||||||
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Brenda: I mean in the US, you had railroads being built going across First Nations' lands, farms too. You had trappers and fur traders as well. Forts were being built, the Pony Express was pushing in as well. Course the gold rush, but too my knowledge there are no gold mines in Manitoba. Here the gold was in BC and the Yukon. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.09 22:55 |
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Brenda: The most unifying or common thread I find with the Metis or just half breeds from the Prairies , seems to be the Cree. The gentleman, I meet at the Seniors' Centre and the lady who could have been my cousin, Cree. But that's not enough to my mind why Riel became such a galvanizing figure. I don't think even the railroad was the complete cause because the railroad was going through other parts of Canada. Tribal lands and farm lands. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.09 22:49 |
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| Brenda: I'm sure we will too but it is going to be rough for a while and 150 year old relationship is nothing to toss out. Oh, I know about the saber rattling, it is just a wee bit unsettling. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.09 12:14 | |||||||||
| Brenda: No that bit of Canadian history wouldn't make it down there even though Riel spent a year or more in Montana, I think. That is if I am remembering my history right. Then he was brought home to Canada by some of his people, looking for someone to deal with the Canadian government at the time. It has helped me to get a clearer picture but not enough to draw any real conclusions. I would really have to delve more I think into American history to figure out where the divergence was. As I said that has always left me puzzled. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.09 12:11 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: As for like Canada and US relations right now? We'll be fine, Brenda. If all it took was a few price wars and 100 days of uncertainty to break that relationship, it wasn't much of a relationship to begin with if you ask me. The politicians are all doing a lot of saber rattling right now and the media's job is to keep all of us arguing with each other. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.09 11:50 | |||||||||
| 6ixStringJack: I have to admit, to say I'm not well read on the topic would be an understatement and I wouldn't be of much use helping you come to a conclusion. I hope that writing it out helps you. I know it does for me. - http://www.fireflyfans.net 05.09 11:49 |
