Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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SECOND

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 3:56 AM

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In practical terms, we - the USA- got nothing from it.
Now THAT'S stupid.

I predict you will forget you ever posted about our stupid wars and go back to thumping for MOAR STUPID WARS.

There remain hardliners like Pavel Gubarev, Russia’s puppet leader in Donetsk, who voiced his real intention toward Ukrainians: “We aren’t coming to kill you, but to convince you. But if you don’t want to be convinced, we’ll kill you. We’ll kill as many as we have to: 1 million, 5 million, or exterminate all of you.” That quote is from Putin is trying to distract us from the blindingly obvious
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/25/opinions/putin-prolonge-war-ukraine-win
ter-andelman/index.html

Signym, about the South Vietnamese, the North Vietnamese never said they'd "exterminate all of you". I don't think the Russians are sane in these land disputes. Just saying.

Signym, don't say the Russians would never exterminate the Ukrainians. There are scholars totalling all the occasions when the Russians exterminated tens of millions over political differences.

Signym, you have repeatedly wrote that all the mass murdering that Russians have done is as nothing. Wrong of you, Signym:

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Originally posted by second:
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Still waiting for Kiev's Big Offensive in Kherson. Or anywhere, for that matter.

It doesn't matter how many lies are published in western press. They can (and do) tell us endless fairy tales, but in the end reality trumps fiction.
The Russians have achieved impressive numbers which R.J. Rummel compiled for easy reference:

Lethal Politics: Soviet Genocide and Mass Murder Since 1917 by R. J. Rummel
https://www.amazon.com/Lethal-Politics-Soviet-Genocide-Murder-ebook/dp
/B074VDV6V9/

Contents

1 61,911,000 Victims: Utopianism Empowered, 1917-1987 1
Appendix 1.1 16
Appendix 1.2 24

2 3,284,000 Victims: The Civil War Period, 1917-1922 33
Appendix 2.1 49

3 2,200,000 Victims: The NEP Period 1923-1928 61
Appendix 3.1 73

4 11,440,000 Victims: The Collectivization Period, 1929-1935 81
Appendix 4.1 103

5 4,345,000 Victims: The Great Terror Period 1936-1938 109
Appendix 5.1 117

6 5,104,000 Victims: Pre-World War II Period 1939-June 1941 127
Appendix 6.1 138

7 13,053,000 Victims: World War II Period, June 1941-1945 151
Appendix 7.1 168

8 15,613,000 Victims: Postwar and Stalin’s Twilight Period, 1945-1953 191
Appendix 8.1 201

9 6,872,000 Victims: Post-Stalin Period, 1954-1987 217
Appendix 9.1 226

Download R. J. Rummel’s books for free from the mirrors at https://libgen.unblockit.nz/search.php?req=R.+J.+Rummel

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
But what does this have to do with ... anything?
Yanno, you used to blame the Soviets for waging war "inefficiently".

This is just more crap-splatter from you.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

Sigynm: All of Russian past is prologue for what Russia would do to the Ukrainians in this 2022 political dispute about who owns the land that Ukraine sits on.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 5:00 AM

SECOND, you are so full of bullshit it's splattering onto the board.

You're not really concerned about genocide. If you were, you'd be looking at OUR history as well.

Please dispose of your crap someplace else.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

SECOND

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 5:43 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND, you are so full of bullshit it's splattering onto the board.

You're not really concerned about genocide. If you were, you'd be looking at OUR history as well.

Please dispose of your crap someplace else.

They coined the word "Whataboutism" to describe a Soviet, and later, a Russian tactic of changing the subject when the subject was Soviets, and later, Russians, murdering people by the millions. Russians and Soviets have murdered millions of Ukrainians in the past. Present-day Ukrainians know about those murders, Signym. Why don't you?

By the way, it was only last week that Putin said he'd murder millions by nuking them if he doesn't get what he wants in Ukraine.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 6:10 AM

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Originally posted by second:
By the way, it was only last week that Putin said he'd murder millions by nuking them if he doesn't get what he wants in Ukraine.

No he didn't.

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SIGNYM

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 6:19 AM

SECOND specializes in false narratives.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

SECOND

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 8:51 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND specializes in false narratives.

Ukrainian forces advance against Russian fighters in Kherson and Bakhmut
By Mary Ilyushina and Emily Rauhala
Updated October 25, 2022 at 5:36 p.m. EDT

Ukrainian forces continued their advance against the Russian military in the southern Kherson region Tuesday, pushed back Russian mercenaries from Bakhmut in eastern Donetsk, and gained new momentum in Luhansk, where they seized a key highway between the towns of Kreminna and Svatove.

On a day of heavy fighting and fast-moving developments across multiple combat zones, the Ukrainians appeared to extend their recent successes in recapturing occupied territories and pushing Moscow’s troops into retreat in areas that President Vladimir Putin has claimed now belong to Russia.

Away from the battlefield, the Kremlin continued to push a claim, asserted repeatedly without evidence, that Kyiv was preparing to use a “dirty bomb,” a weapon that combines conventional explosives with radioactive material — an accusation that was dismissed by the United States and other Western nations.

U.S. officials said that Moscow’s allegations raised a risk that Russia itself was planning to carry out a radiation attack, potentially as a pretext to justify further escalation of the war amid its continuing territorial setbacks.

In a statement Tuesday, Ukraine’s nuclear energy operator, Energoatom, issued a similar warning, citing the Russian military’s control over the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant in Enerhodar. “Energoatom assumes that such actions of the occupiers may indicate that they are preparing a terrorist act using nuclear materials and radioactive waste stored at the ZNPP site,” the statement said.

The renewed fears of some kind of radiation attack added to the ominous sense that Putin’s war in Ukraine is growing even more deadly and dangerous as each side seeks to redraw facts on the ground before winter.

Ukraine has been pushing hard for further territorial gains, while Russia this month began a relentless bombing campaign against Ukraine’s energy system, using missiles and attack drones in an apparent bid to plunge the country into cold and darkness, and potentially compensate for battlefield losses.

As Ukraine continued to make gains, pro-Kremlin military bloggers and analysts confirmed new setbacks for Russia’s forces Tuesday, including in Luhansk, the easternmost occupied region of Ukraine, where Russia has had its firmest grip.

“The Ukrainian army has resumed its counteroffensive in the Luhansk direction,” the pro-Russian WarGonzo project said in its daily military update, adding that Ukrainian forces took control of a key highway between the Luhansk towns of Svatove and Kreminna.

“The Russian artillery is actively working on the left bank of Zherebets river and is trying to stop the transfer of reinforcements to the enemy but the situation is very difficult,” WarGonzo said.

In the Donetsk region, the Wagner paramilitary force, controlled by St. Petersburg businessman Yevgeniy Prigozhin, appeared to be getting pushed back from Bakhmut, where the mercenaries had spent weeks pummeling the city but making small gains. Military experts said there was little strategic value in seizing Bakhmut, but Prigozhin seems to see a chance to claim a political prize, while regular Russian military units lose ground in other combat zones.

Ukrainian forces have recaptured a concrete factory on Bakhmut’s eastern outskirts, the Washington-based Institute for the Study of War reported Monday. On Sunday, Prigozhin acknowledged the slow pace of Wagner’s effort, saying the mercenaries were gaining only “100-200 meters a day.”

“Our units are constantly meeting with the most fierce enemy resistance, and I note that the enemy is well prepared, motivated, and works confidently and harmoniously,” Prigozhin said in a statement published by his catering company’s press service. “This does not prevent our fighters from moving forward, but I cannot comment on how long it will take.

SECOND

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 9:10 AM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
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Originally posted by second:
By the way, it was only last week that Putin said he'd murder millions by nuking them if he doesn't get what he wants in Ukraine.

No he didn't.

Ford described the super torpedo as a crude weapon in the interview with Government Matters TV and said that he was unsure what it actually added to Russia's warfighting capabilities over other conventional or nuclear weapon platforms.

"It's a terror weapon," said Ford. "It's designed to kill or traumatize the inhabitants of American coastal cities."

The Poseidon's other capabilities

Dimitry Litovkin, editor-in-chief of the TASS military magazine, boasted that the Belgorod and other vessels of its class could "deliver up to 12 such devices to the coast of the United States."

He also claimed that the Poseidon had underwater loitering munition capabilities, and could lay dormant on the ocean floor for years before activation. He also said it was impossible to detect the drone at such depths.

The weapon was first announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin alongside platforms like the Kinzhal hypersonic missile, which can also carry a nuclear warhead.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-718938

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 1:03 PM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
By the way, it was only last week that Putin said he'd murder millions by nuking them if he doesn't get what he wants in Ukraine.

No he didn't.
Ford described the super torpedo as a crude weapon in the interview with Government Matters TV and said that he was unsure what it actually added to Russia's warfighting capabilities over other conventional or nuclear weapon platforms.

"It's a terror weapon," said Ford. "It's designed to kill or traumatize the inhabitants of American coastal cities."

The Poseidon's other capabilities

Dimitry Litovkin, editor-in-chief of the TASS military magazine, boasted that the Belgorod and other vessels of its class could "deliver up to 12 such devices to the coast of the United States."

He also claimed that the Poseidon had underwater loitering munition capabilities, and could lay dormant on the ocean floor for years before activation. He also said it was impossible to detect the drone at such depths.

The weapon was first announced by Russian President Vladimir Putin alongside platforms like the Kinzhal hypersonic missile, which can also carry a nuclear warhead.

https://www.jpost.com/international/article-718938

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

And?

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SECOND

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 2:24 PM

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Originally posted by 6IXSTRINGJACK:

And?

A youtube video from a bald, nearsighted lamebrain who thinks he is a philosopher.

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Putin built the Poseidon torpedoes as a weapon of terror. Putin needs a very weird life philosophy to justify building such a horrifying gadget. Where did Putin get his philosophy? It just so happens that Russians have been using terror to govern, and murder, millions of Ukrainians for centuries. The Ukrainians know that history and know Putin's life philosophy because they have experienced Russian life philosophy for all those centuries. If you want, you could know history and philosophy, too! Once you know both, Putin is revealed as just one more in a long line of Russians who murder Ukrainians because it makes Russians feel good about themselves. Makes them feel strong, important, patriotic rather than aimless and insignificant.

What is Russia's Poseidon nuclear torpedo drone, and can it cause a nuclear tsunami?
https://www.jpost.com/international/article-718938

From Popular Mechanics Magazine: Is Russia About to Launch Its Nuclear ‘Apocalypse’ Torpedo?
https://web.archive.org/web/20221022060930/https://www.popularmechanic
s.com/military/weapons/a37093942/russia-test-nuclear-apocalypse-torpedo-poseidon/

Poseidon Intercontinental Nuclear-Powered Nuclear-Armed Autonomous Torpedo drawing:
https://web.archive.org/web/20221021011934im_/https://hips.hearstapps.
com/hmg-prod/images/ru-poseidon-updatedfeb2019-2100x1100-1664999005.jpeg

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

SECOND

Wednesday, October 26, 2022 5:05 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND specializes in false narratives.

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Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE someone poor - William Blake

Russia might have to pay for what it has done, if the EU's lawyers decide it is legal.

Raid Russia’s ‘huge pot of gold’? Europe grapples over confiscating frozen assets to pay for rebuilding Ukraine

BY Christiaan Hetzner

October 25, 2022 at 11:48 AM CDT

Can Brussels raid the tens of billions of euros in Russian assets frozen by the European Union to pay for Ukraine’s recovery?

This thorny legal question is currently under examination by the EU Commission as the cash-strapped bloc looks for potentially €18 billion ($18 billion) next year to keep Ukraine afloat as it fends off Moscow’s invasion.

Ursula von der Leyen, the EU Commission’s president, told reporters on Tuesday in Berlin that she had set up a task force to map what assets exist as well as the preconditions that must be met to seize them.

“The will is there, but legally it is not trivial. There is a lot of work still in it to reach that goal,” she said during a press briefing on the sidelines of an international conference of experts for the reconstruction of Ukraine.

“Always to keep in mind we insist on the rule of law, and therefore we abide by the rule of law, and therefore this process has to be legally sound.”

Importantly, it’s unclear whether this may eventually include the wealth of the Russian state or just illicit funds from Russian oligarchs, which is potentially easier to seize if illicitly gained.

Ukraine believes there is anywhere between $300 billion to $500 billion in Russian assets for the taking, which would go far in helping it rebuild, Ukraine Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal said on Tuesday. He said critical economic infrastructure equivalent to 45% of its annual output has been destroyed since the war started and it expects its budget deficit next year to therefor amount to €38 billion.

“It’s the biggest investment project on the European continent ever,” Shmyhal said of the current reconstruction effort.

‘Unprecedented’

While Canada has already enacted legislation to seize Russian assets, EU member states are divided as the issue could have repercussions that extend far beyond its borders and affect the future for a long time to come. Some €23 billion in Russian assets are estimated to be located in the EU.

On the one hand you have supporters like Poland, whose prime minister left no doubt as to where his country—a staunch ally of Ukraine in its war against Russia—stood on the issue of war reparations.

“There is a huge pot of gold to be taken and dedicated for Ukraine’s reconstruction, which are the assets of Russian Federation and Russian oligarchs,” Mateusz Morawiecki said on Tuesday in Berlin.

He argued that simply freezing them means little, especially as assets have a way of growing in value over time. They need to be confiscated, in Warsaw’s view.

“We must make sure the offender pays,” he said. “Too many times over the course of history we saw that the aggressors avoided the consequences.”

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, who himself is facing demands from Morawiecki for €1.3 trillion in reparations for World War II, was more hesitant about the issue.

More at https://fortune.com/2022/10/25/ukraine-russia-assets-confiscation-seiz
e-assets-frozen-reparations-reconstruction-europe-commission/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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