Russia Invades Ukraine. Again
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Originally posted by SignyM:
I have to say, for such smart people you don't use your brains for anything useful.
You’re the Steve Bannon of this forum. Never at a loss for words but rarely ever right. You *try* desperately to convince us that every coup has the same punch list like some home remodeling project, when you in fact that’s just you being obtuse or purposely stupid or max OCD. You’re great at saying what would be perfect without acknowledging or understanding that perfect is only on paper. Things in RL rarely go as planned - in RL too many variables. Trump had just lost all hopes of recounts and law suits and false electors (plus other scams) to get re-elected. There was no time to methodically plan D, let alone what to do after. All there was was desperation and enough whack jobs around and a big enough, angry enough and gullible enough mob to give him hope and do his bidding. It almost worked for a time, but I have little doubt that it would have lasted longer than 48-72 hours. I honestly bet none of them thought they would get as far as they did. Doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
And being such smart people we also see you trying to side track this thread. Almost like you hate threads that expose Russian murdering innocent civilians.
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Quote:. The problem is, the "coup", as you imagine it to be, had NONE of the necessary elements. You're going to have to do a lot better than saying Trump was frustrated with the vote count.
SignyM:
I have to say, for such smart people you don't use your brains for anything useful.
CAPON: You’re the Steve Bannon of this forum. Never at a loss for words but rarely ever right. You *try* desperately to convince us that every coup has the same punch list like some home remodeling project, blah blah bkah
Show me, with evidence, that Trump called for a coup and that people responded by planning one.
Quote:well then, concede that you're wrong, and stop arguing.
CC: And being such smart people we also see you trying to side track this thread. Almost like you hate threads that expose Russian murdering innocent civilians.
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Quote:Smaller? Yes. Weaker? No.
SignyM:
so, are you admitting that Finland was allied with the Nazis? And that Russia was not only fighting "Finland", it was also fighting Germany?
You must be fantasizing that Russia today is the same as Russia of 1939.
SECIND: For one thing, Russia is a smaller country, with a weaker economy, than it was when called the Soviet Union.
Quote:Are you fucking stupid? S Korea doesn't have the resources, it can't field an army, and it's completely dependent on trade for it's survival
SECOND: In the larger scheme of things, South Korea is a bigger economy than Russia
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SECOND: blah blah blah...
Quote:So, Finland turned in it's former ally, Nazi Germany, and fought it, all by it's lonesome. Like the Germans weren't distrtacted by fighting Russia on a 1000 mile front, and the western allies on a 250 mile front?
SECOND: And Russia is still frightened of Finland. Russia threatened Finland if it joined NATO. Finland joined NATO. When the Nazi were no longer useful to Finland for killing a million Russians in Stalingrad, Finland went to war with the Nazis. And won.
You don't REALLY expect us to believe your counterfactual history, do you???
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SECOND: More blah blah blah...
Jeezus, stop drowning the board in bullshit, willya?
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Quote:Signym, Russia invaded Finland twice to steal their land. Russia lost both wars. Then it was payback time: Finland invades Russia, using the Nazis to murder a million Russians in St. Petersburg. Well, Russians helped by killing and eating each other. Russians certainly have dramatic lives, don't they?
Originally posted by SignyM:
. . . goddamn nonsense from Signym . . .
Because of a special police force, the Russians' biggest achievement was stopping being cannibals. Meanwhile, Finland has prospered mightily in the larger, freer world where cannibals aren't allowed. Finland, for five years in a row, has been the happiest country in the world. Russia is not a happy country. Perhaps cannibalism made them bitter and disagreeable?
By the way, South Korea does have an economy bigger than Russia's, probably because Koreans are not lazy and stupid, unlike some countries we know. Korea also didn't prosper by invading and stealing from other countries, unlike some countries we know. Korea didn't rape and pillage its own land, unlike some countries we know.
The HARROWING true story of the USSR’s ‘Cannibal Island’
https://www.rbth.com/history/333994-harrowing-true-story-of-cannibals
There are many stories about Russians eating their dead. What a freaky nationality:
https://www.google.com/search?q=how+did+russia+stop+cannibalism
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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So, you're going with the "Rusians are cannibals" trope, not "Germans are genocidal maniacs" trope.
Oh, dear me: I've said more than once that you want to rewrite history, and- you are!
At the time that "Russia invaded Finland' there was no Finland, only Sweden. In fact, Finland achieved its independence from Sweden BECAUSE of Russia. Russia was afraid of SWEDEN, not Finland, and split Finland from Sweden to weaken Sweden. Finland was never an issue, but- BTW, someone from Finland worked for me for a couple of years - they still resent the Swedes to some extent. Swedish is still a minor language in Finland, a leftover from when they were part of the Swedish kingdom.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independence_of_Finland
Finnish is a strange language. They modify words by adding onto them and they can get VERY long. It's nothing like any of the other European languages, bc it doesn't descend from Latin or German roots.
I was introduced to The Moomins by my colleague. https://www.moomin.com/en/explore/ The Finns have a different outlook than we do and it shows in their cartoons and stories.
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Quote:Russians aren’t literal cannibals, just yet, but they have turned against each other.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So, you're going with the "Rusians are cannibals" trope, not "Germans are genocidal maniacs" trope.
From the Christian Science Monitor: Even loyalists are targets in latest Russian crackdown. Why?
Definitions of “treason” and what brands a citizen as a “foreign agent” have been gradually expanding for several years in Russia. But a recent spate of unusual criminal cases amid the nearly 5-month-old war in Ukraine suggests that the trust that binds the Kremlin with the various elites who actually run the system may be starting to fray.
The cases are all different, and some observers insist that most have nothing to do with the ongoing war. But no one disputes that the number of treason-related prosecutions has jumped fivefold over the past decade as Russia’s geopolitical tensions with the West have exploded, and that some people formerly thought of as “untouchable” have suddenly found themselves behind bars.
While loyalists disagree, government critics speculate that the surge in treason-related cases is a sign that the Kremlin is afraid of losing control, and is looking for enemies to make examples of.
Sergei Markov, a former Putin adviser, argues that the war-related tightening of screws is very real.
“The Kremlin sees the threat from the West as our biggest danger. Even if the situation seems stable now, we have seen that they are out to destroy us. [U.S. President Joe] Biden has said as much,” he says.
“Some unofficial polls show that 70% of state journalists oppose the special operation, even if they seem to be doing their jobs properly right now. The potential for protests is actual; they will happen if the state shows any weakness at all. Putin and his colleagues are former intelligence operatives. They are very suspicious. They see threats emanating from the West and – you know what? – events have often proven them to be right.”
More at https://web.archive.org/web/20220713103047/https://www.csmonitor.com/W
orld/Europe/2022/0712/Even-loyalists-are-targets-in-latest-Russian-crackdown.-Why
Signym, you might have noticed a theme here: Russia accused of war crimes denies it committed war crimes, saying the Ukrainians did it, not Russia. Ha! Russia accused of killing a plane full of Dutch passengers and denies it shot them down. Ha! Russia attacks Finland, twice, and is beaten by little Finland. Decades later, Russia threatens to nuke Finland if it joins NATO. Finland joins NATO. Ha! The theme? Russians are mentally unbalanced people. It is unsurprising they are some of the unhappiest people on Earth while Finland wins the title of happiest five years in a row. Not surprising, Russians are still afraid of Germany, but Finland is not in the least afraid. Must be that Russia was permanently traumatized by close contact with the Nazis while Finland sailed proudly through WWII with no regrets. By the way, Finland didn't need the USA and UK to save the small country from the mighty Nazis, but Russia would have been defeated without the USA and UK.
Finland Doesn’t Understand Why It Keeps Winning the “Happiest Country” Title
For the fifth year in a row, the Nordic nation is the most content in the world
https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/health-and-fitness/finland-happ
iest-country-title-fifth-year
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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‘We have a new Hitler in Russia’: Pussy Riot’s Maria Alyokhina on Putin’s crimes and her years of resistance
When three of them, including Alyokhina, were arrested for hooliganism in 2012 and sentenced to two years in jail, it didn’t leave much of a mark on Putin’s reputation, even though human rights organisations such as Amnesty International designated them political prisoners. The protest was deadly serious: it was against Orthodox Church leaders’ support for Putin and the blind eye they were turning to his corruption and creeping totalitarianism. Yet the substance of that, and the harsh consequences it had, was ignored in the service of everyone playing nice at international summits.
Alyokhina rolls her eyes, as if to say that is not the half of it: “We were released on 23 December 2013. A month after our release, we made an action [demonstrated]: ‘Putin will teach you how to love the motherland.’ That was at Sochi, the Olympic Games, and that was the first time we were beaten physically. That was the first moment that I understood: Russia was already worse than when we were imprisoned.”
Two weeks later, Putin annexed Crimea – “the first point of no way back”, she says. “Especially shocking was the very weak reaction of the west. There were slight sanctions, but nations continued to deal with Russian businesses. Germany was selling weapons to Putin’s regime, evading the weapon embargo. A lot of capital from oligarchs went to Britain, especially to London. I spoke at the European parliament, in your parliament, in the US Senate. Everyone was ‘deeply concerned’, but nothing happened. In Russian activist circles, there are a lot of jokes about the west being deeply concerned: it means they are not going to do anything.”
If there had been the sanctions there are now after Crimea and the subsequent invasion of the Donbas, Alyokhina is certain that we would not be in this mess today. “We were calling for a full embargo in 2014 and again in 2015. We were doing street actions. I was arrested 100 times. I hear a lot of discussion in the west that it’s very hard and painful to stop buying oil and gas – well, you guys had eight years. In eight years, it would have been possible. In one month, it’s hard. Maybe politicians were afraid of their voters protesting that their houses were cold. Now Ukrainians don’t have houses at all.”
She lays out in brutal terms what this combination of inertia and self-interest has created. “Money from the west is the basis of our imprisonment, of our poisoning, of political murders and, now, of the war in Ukraine. I really want people to understand this and stop it.”
You can trace Putin’s growing sense of impunity through the totalitarian acts he got away with. And it does bear reflection: how did he manage it with so little censure? The marked, even absolute, absence of women in Russian political life has tended to pass without comment, as a historical or cultural quirk. “All this Russian criminal culture, which dates from the Soviet Union, is very misogynistic,” says Alyokhina. “There is no place for women at the decision-making table. No first ladies, no role for women. Even western journalists trying to write about Russian feminism – who do they name? Alexandra Kollontai. She was living in the 1920s.”
More at https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jul/11/pussy-riot-maria-alyokhi
na-putin-crimes-hitler-years-of-resistance
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, a known ally of Russian leader Vladimir Putin, warned on Tuesday that there could be a major global conflict on the horizon.
Lukashenko also echoed Putin's criticisms of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, in particular the Russian leader's view of Sweden and Finland's decision to join the alliance.
"Apparently, the newly-minted 'crusaders' of the North Atlantic Alliance suddenly decided that the time is right for another 'Drang nach Osten', forgetting how similar campaigns ended for their historical predecessors," Lukashenko said, alleging that NATO's defensive military exercises are examples of a growing "strike force."
By "Drang nach Osten" — which means "spread to the east" in German — Lukashenko referenced to a term used by Nazi leader Adolf Hitler as part of his plan to acquire Slavic territory for German "living space" and the impetus for Nazi conflict in eastern Europe.
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-ally-alexander-lukashenko-warns-
big-war-on-the-horizon-2022-7
Lukashenko talked about fighting Nazis in the Second World War and said: "The time has come for the forgetful Europe to give itself a moral cleansing."
"They — all who chose to forget — will have to look again at the grueling evidence of the bloody crimes of their own fathers and grandfathers," he said.
"I must admit that we were delicately silent. In our Slavic way, we believed that children were not responsible for their parents. We still think so."
He did not elaborate on what such a cleansing would entail. (Perhaps the cleansing fire of H-bombs? Putin has outright said he'll nuke the West if NATO troops rescue Ukraine from the Russians. Putin is really mentally stable, isn't he?)
https://www.businessinsider.com/belarus-lukashenko-europe-moral-cleans
ing-putin-ukraine-russia-invasion-2022-7
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:
Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, a known ally of Russian leader Vladimir Putin, warned on Tuesday that there could be a major global conflict on the horizon.
Lukashenko also echoed Putin's criticisms of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, or NATO, in particular the Russian leader's view of Sweden and Finland's decision to join the alliance.
"Apparently, the newly-minted 'crusaders' of the North Atlantic Alliance suddenly decided that the time is right for another 'Drang nach Osten', forgetting how similar campaigns ended for their historical predecessors," Lukashenko said, alleging that NATO's defensive military exercises are examples of a growing "strike force."
By "Drang nach Osten" — which means "spread to the east" in German — Lukashenko referenced to a term used by Nazi leader Adolf Hitler as part of his plan to acquire Slavic territory for German "living space" and the impetus for Nazi conflict in eastern Europe.
https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-ally-alexander-lukashenko-warns-
big-war-on-the-horizon-2022-7
Lukashenko talked about fighting Nazis in the Second World War and said: "The time has come for the forgetful Europe to give itself a moral cleansing."
"They — all who chose to forget — will have to look again at the grueling evidence of the bloody crimes of their own fathers and grandfathers," he said.
"I must admit that we were delicately silent. In our Slavic way, we believed that children were not responsible for their parents. We still think so."
He did not elaborate on what such a cleansing would entail. (Perhaps the cleansing fire of H-bombs? Putin has outright said he'll nuke the West if NATO troops rescue Ukraine from the Russians. Putin is really mentally stable, isn't he?)
https://www.businessinsider.com/belarus-lukashenko-europe-moral-cleans
ing-putin-ukraine-russia-invasion-2022-7
Dinosaurs or B-movie villains or both? Whatever, after the chest thumping all they're doing is telegraphing that NATO freaks them out.
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Quote:Yes, and ....?
SECOND: Signym, you might have noticed a theme here: Russia accused of war crimes denies it committed war crimes, saying the Ukrainians did it, not Russia. Ha!
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Russia accused of killing a plane full of Dutch passengers and denies it shot them down. Ha!
I thought we've already established that Russia did NOT shoot down MH17. Even the prosecutors aren't saying that Russians shot down MH17.
You keep forgetting what you previously posted bc you're untethered from reality. It must be scary, living in your free-form world of bullshit and lies, where nothing is what it seems and there is no truth to hang onto. HA!
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