Russia Invades Ukraine. Again

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CAPON: Dinosaurs or B-movie villains or both? Whatever, after the chest thumping all they're doing is telegraphing that NATO freaks them out.

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And you're doing what, exactly?

Every one of your posts telegraphs that Russia freaks YOU out. Trumps freaks you out, too. I should list all of the bullshit that you and SECOND have insisted is real. Just, yanno, to recap all of your hysterical propaganda.


But at least you've stopped insisting that Jan 6 was an attempted coup.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

I thought we've already established that Russia did NOT shoot down MH17. Even the prosecutors aren't saying that Russians shot down MH17.

You keep forgetting what you previously posted bc you're untethered from reality. It must be scary, living in your free-form world of bullshit and lies, where nothing is what it seems and there is no truth to hang onto. HA!

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The suspects in the trial are Russians Oleg Pulatov, Igor Girkin and Sergei Dubinsky, and Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko. Signym, you are a nut, aren't you?

The helpful article, which explains how absolutely crazy Signym and Russians are about denying what happened, is "Russia 'lying' over role in flight MH17 being shot down, say families of 298 victims at murder trial"
https://news.sky.com/story/russia-lying-over-role-in-flight-mh17-being
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Russians and Signym constantly use the Firehose of Falsehoods. Not only do Signym and Russians make up lies with no end, they also say that the truth is a lie. That is an especially hard philosophical knot for the Russians to untie. In stark contrast, the Finnish were not driven to insanity by WWII, completely unlike the Russians, who have acted like crazy people ever since that war ended. When will the emotional trauma be over for the Russians? The whole world wants to know when.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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The suspects in the trial are Russians Oleg Pulatov, Igor Girkin and Sergei Dubinsky, and Ukrainian Leonid Kharchenko. Signym, you are a nut, aren't you?

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And what are the charges?

NOT shooting down a plane.
NOT giving the order to shoot down a plane.
NOT even for supplying a missile system
But for "helping" to supply a missile system.

SECOND, I don't know WHAT world you live in, but it's clearly not the real one. Your opinions and feelings are untethered from reality, and you really, really, should get help and meds bc you're nuttier than a fruitcake, and creepier than a snake.

"How many shrinks does it take to change a lightbulb?
Only one, but only if it really wants to change"

You'll have to salvage yourself.
Best of luck.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Every one of your posts...

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Every one? Wow.

And "every one of your posts telegraphs that you want America in decline and Russia in ascension."

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
telegraphs that Russia freaks YOU out. Trumps freaks you out, too.

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Yep. Putin is one sick fcker. Trump too, but in a more binge greedy fck way.

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I should list all of the bullshit that you and SECOND have insisted is real. Just, yanno, to recap all of your hysterical propaganda.

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Please do!

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
But at least you've stopped insisting that Jan 6 was an attempted coup.

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I did? Where?

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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
And "every one of your posts telegraphs that you're worried that want America [is] in decline and [that] Russia [is] in ascension."

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YES, YOU ARE ABSOLUTEY RIGHT. I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT AMERICA AND OUR FUTURE.
WE HAVE LOST OUR WAY AND NEED TO URGENTLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS, WHICH - BTW- DON'T INCLUDE UKRAINE.

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CC:Yep. Putin is one sick fcker.

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I think Russia wants to be left alone. But even if Putin is a "sick fucker"... SO WHAT???
Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly imcompetent that it's about to implode?
What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck.

And I think Russia is doing some things right that we would do we to emulate:

They are truly independent. They have the manufacturing capability, technology and resources that they can tell the rest of the world to go hang, and the military to defend it. We don't have quite the resource independence that they do. We've burned thru our easily-extracted oil, and we lack strategic metals like titanium. BUT we come pretty darn close. WE could be independent. INSTEAD, WE DECIDED TO BE THE WORLD'S TYRANT.

They want to be a sovereign nation. That means they're willing to defend their borders and their rights. We (or at least our elite, anyway) gave away our manufacuring and are pissing away our money and resources on issues and places that have nothing to do with us.

They have a balanced budget. Their currency means something. Their total debt load is far less than ours.

They're reining in their oligarchs.

Their military is capable of fighting wars. Ours is just a big procurement office for Lockheed Martin and Raytheon and General Dynamics and Northrop-Grumman.

America is a sick nation, and every single one of my posts is about how AMERICA must get better.
Why do you keep obsessing about Russia for god's sake? Don't you have ENOUGH to pay attention to besides that?

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Z: YES, YOU ARE ABSOLUTEY RIGHT. I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT AMERICA AND OUR FUTURE.
WE HAVE LOST OUR WAY AND NEED TO URGENTLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS, WHICH - BTW- DON'T INCLUDE UKRAINE.

- Even with ALL CAPS No one believes you are "deeply concerned" about the US. You are more concerned with telling people what they should do - *cough* fascist *cough* - the fact that you follow that with "we've lost our way" only proves it. "Urgently?" How do you Urgently fix a global problem? You're stretching again (fck, this whole post is one big stretch).

Z: "I think Russia wants to be left alone."
- So they started an unprovoked war??

Z: "But even if Putin is a "sick fucker"... SO WHAT???"
- So all those nukes and threats?

Z: "Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly imcompetent that it's about to implode?"
- But you say they aren't so why aren't you more concerned? You logic has no logic.

Z: "What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck."
- You're right - we're not spending money on Ukraine to fix those things.

Z: "They are truly independent."
- Funny, yanno, with them being economically dependent on their Oil&Gas.

Z: They have the manufacturing capability, technology and resources that they can tell the rest of the world to go hang..."
- Great, go hang Russia! They can recall their troops and hang together.

Z: "...and the military to defend it." funny, yanno seeing how they can't beat little ole Ukraine and were driven out of Afghanistan.

Z: "We don't have quite the resource independence that they do. We've burned thru our easily-extracted oil, and we lack strategic metals like titanium. BUT we come pretty darn close. WE could be independent. INSTEAD, WE DECIDED TO BE THE WORLD'S TYRANT."
- World's? Serious, did you have a relative killed in a US bombing raid somewhere?

Z: "They want to be a sovereign nation. That means they're willing to defend their borders and their rights."
- Sooooo just like Ukraine? OKAY, that is beyond IRONIC.

Z: "They have a balanced budget. Their currency means something. Their total debt load is far less than ours."
- They have an artificially balanced budget, an artificially pimped emergency pull the red lever "clear!" stable currency, and no kidding, with an economy the size of Italy their debt load should be less than ours.

Z: "They're reining in their oligarchs."
- Because of our sanctions

Z: "Their military is capable of fighting wars."
- and failing

Z: "America is a sick nation"
- tells you everything you need to know about what Z thinks of the US.

Z: "...and every single one of my posts is about how AMERICA must get better."
- Must? Like a threat if the US doesn't listen to you?

Z: "Why do you keep obsessing about Russia for god's sake? Don't you have ENOUGH to pay attention to besides that?"
- And why do you keep obsessing about Russia for god's sake????

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Nobody gives a shit about Russia or Ukraine.

They care even less about that than they do abortion or January 6th.

Just go right on pretending that these statements aren't true and see where it gets you.



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Originally posted by captaincrunch:
Z: YES, YOU ARE ABSOLUTEY RIGHT. I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT AMERICA AND OUR FUTURE.
WE HAVE LOST OUR WAY AND NEED TO URGENTLY FIX OUR PROBLEMS, WHICH - BTW- DON'T INCLUDE UKRAINE.

CC: - Even with ALL CAPS No one believes you are "deeply concerned" about the US.

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Then you're deluded. What have I been posting about since I joined the board??? OUR oroblems. OUR solutions.

You can't fix anything unless you recognize it's not working. Rah-rah-ism just makes things worse.

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CC: You are more concerned with telling people what they should do -

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Oh, you mean I go around telling people what pronouns they must use, what opinions they can't express, that they should bend the knee or commit suicide, and how I would like to genocide the whole world "down to the last 100" ... You mean like that??. Hypocrite much?

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CC: ... the fact that you follow that with "we've lost our way" only proves it. "Urgently?" How do you Urgently fix a global problem?

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You STILL don't "get it", do you? WE CANT FIX WORLD PROBLEMS. Shit, how can we fix world problems when we can't fix our own??

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Z: "I think Russia wants to be left alone."
CC: - So they started an unprovoked war??

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More lies?

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Z: "But even if Putin is a "sick fucker"... SO WHAT???"
CC:- So all those nukes and threats?

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It wasn't Russia that broke all of the nuclear-related treaties and placed missiles on our border.
Was it?

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Z: "Don't we have MORE IMPORTANT things to worry about besides a nation that is- according to you- so grossly imcompetent that it's about to implode?"
CC: - But you say they aren't so why aren't you more concerned? You logic has no logic.

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WHEN Russia becomes a security threat TO US, THEN I'll be concerned. There are three things we SHOUKD be doing right now:
Renegotiate nuclear treaties. "Trust but verify" was a formula that worked well.
Stop trying to destabilize Russia.
Revamp our military to be able to fight wars, not waste money.
Harden our cyber and infrastructure against cyber attack..

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Z: "What about our border security?
Energy independence?
Debt load?
Wealth inequality?
Political and social corruption?
Every single one is an urgent problem of our own making that we can fix without spending a single dime on Ukraine, or the Uigyurs, or Kazakhstan or wherever-the-fuck."
CC: - You're right - we're not spending money on Ukraine to fix those things.

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Except we're not fixing them, instead we're spending billions on Ukraine when we should be spending that money here.

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Z: "They are truly independent."
CC: - Funny, yanno, with them being economically dependent on their Oil&Gas.

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Except they're not. "Sanctions against Russia hasn't hurt Russia as much as it hurt the west. /snicker

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Z: They have the manufacturing capability, technology and resources that they can tell the rest of the world to go hang..."
CC: - Great, go hang Russia! They can recall their troops ...

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And I'm sure rheybwill... once they've cleared their borders of immediate threats.

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Z: "...and the military to defend it."
CC: funny, yanno seeing how they can't beat little ole Ukraine and were driven out of Afghanistan.

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You're as delusional as SECOND.

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Z: "We don't have quite the resource independence that they do. We've burned thru our easily-extracted oil, and we lack strategic metals like titanium. BUT we come pretty darn close. WE could be independent. INSTEAD, WE DECIDED TO BE THE WORLD'S TYRANT."
CC: - World's?

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Yes.
Name me a region (aside from Antarctica) where we don't have troops, or that the CIA isn't trying to destabilize.

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