TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Quote:The FBI is not on Hillary's side. A cabal of NYC FBI agents (including, or solely, Bret Baier’s false “indictment” leaker), may well have PLANTED those emails on Weiner’s laptop–possibly at the behest of Rudy Giuliani or James Kallstrom, or both, who ARE part of the cabal’s conspiracy to violate the Hatch Act (to name just one of a slew of federal criminal statutes these folks have violated).
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Whether or not hillary's elected, she'll win. It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes.
I predict she'll win. And my prediction is based on the documented extensive collusion between her campaign, the DNC, the Justice Department, the Obama administration, and the media; as well as the proven hackability of electronic voting where there's no paper trail.
It's clear she's meant to win. And so, she will.
http://angrybearblog.com/2016/11/i-retract-my-retraction-a-cabal-of-ny
c-fbi-agents-including-or-solely-bret-baiers-false-indictment-leak-may-well-have-planted-those-emails-on-weiner.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Tonight's news: at a Trump rally in Reno, a guy lifted his hands to hold up a sign. Someone nearby panicked, thinking he was raising a gun. The Secret Service hustled Trump offstage, and Trump reappeared shortly after it became clear that nothing had happened. Here's the reaction—as always, nothing but class from Trump and his supporters. See their tweets at www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/11/trump-not-assassins-target
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Any facts (supported by evidence) in your link that you would like to point out?
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Originally posted by second:
The FBI is not on Hillary's side. A cabal of NYC FBI agents (including, or solely, Bret Baier’s false “indictment” leaker), may well have PLANTED those emails on Weiner’s laptop–possibly at the behest of Rudy Giuliani or James Kallstrom, or both, who ARE part of the cabal’s conspiracy to violate the Hatch Act (to name just one of a slew of federal criminal statutes these folks have violated).
http://angrybearblog.com/2016/11/i-retract-my-retraction-a-cabal-of-ny
c-fbi-agents-including-or-solely-bret-baiers-false-indictment-leak-may-well-have-planted-those-emails-on-weiner.html
I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
GOOD LORD!!!
HOW MANY RUSSIANS do you imagine are reading any of these posts??
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Russia trolls get contract extension
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60719
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Any facts (supported by evidence) in your link that you would like to point out?Quote:
Originally posted by second:
The FBI is not on Hillary's side. A cabal of NYC FBI agents (including, or solely, Bret Baier’s false “indictment” leaker), may well have PLANTED those emails on Weiner’s laptop–possibly at the behest of Rudy Giuliani or James Kallstrom, or both, who ARE part of the cabal’s conspiracy to violate the Hatch Act (to name just one of a slew of federal criminal statutes these folks have violated).
http://angrybearblog.com/2016/11/i-retract-my-retraction-a-cabal-of-ny
c-fbi-agents-including-or-solely-bret-baiers-false-indictment-leak-may-well-have-planted-those-emails-on-weiner.html
Meet Donald Trump’s Top FBI Fanboy
Trump supporters with strong ties to the agency kept talking about surprises and leaks to come—and come they did.
Two days before FBI director James Comey rocked the world last week, Rudy Giuliani was on Fox, where he volunteered, un-prodded by any question: “I think he’s [Donald Trump] got a surprise or two that you’re going to hear about in the next few days. I mean, I’m talking about some pretty big surprises.”
Pressed for specifics, he said: “We’ve got a couple of things up our sleeve that should turn this thing around.”
The man who now leads “lock-her-up” chants at Trump rallies spent decades of his life as a federal prosecutor and then mayor working closely with the FBI, and especially its New York office. One of Giuliani’s security firms employed a former head of the New York FBI office, and other alumni of it. It was agents of that office, probing Anthony Weiner’s alleged sexting of a minor, who pressed Comey to authorize the review of possible Hillary Clinton-related emails on a Weiner device that led to the explosive letter the director wrote Congress.
Hours after Comey’s letter about the renewed probe was leaked on Friday, Giuliani went on a radio show and attributed the director’s surprise action to “the pressure of a group of FBI agents who don’t look at it politically.”
“The other rumor that I get is that there’s a kind of revolution going on inside the FBI about the original conclusion [not to charge Clinton] being completely unjustified and almost a slap in the face to the FBI’s integrity,” said Giuliani. “I know that from former agents. I know that even from a few active agents.”
Along with Giuliani’s other connections to New York FBI agents, his former law firm, then called Bracewell Giuliani, has long been general counsel to the FBI Agents Association (FBIAA), which represents 13,000 former and current agents. The group, born in the New York FBI office in the early ’80s, was headed until Monday by Rey Tariche, an agent who just retired from the New York FBI office. In Tariche’s letter to the Association stepping down as president because he's retiring from the Bureau to take a job "within the Banking Industry," he wrote that “we find our work—our integrity questioned” because of it, adding “we will not be used for political gains.”
When the FBIAA threw its first G-Man Honors Gala in 2014 in Washington, Giuliani was the keynote speaker and was given a distinguished service award named after him. Giuliani left Bracewell this January and joined Greenberg Traurig, the only other law firm listed as a sponsor of the FBIAA gala. He spoke again at the 2015 gala. The Bracewell firm also acts as the association’s Washington lobbyist and the FBIAA endorsed Republican Congressman Mike Rodgers, rather than Comey, for the FBI post in 2013. Giuliani did not return a Daily Beast message left with his assistant.
There is more at www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/11/03/meet-donald-trump-s-top-fbi-
fanboy.html
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Stephen Hawking Angers Trump Supporters with Baffling Array of Long Words
By Andy Borowitz , May 31, 2016
LONDON (The Borowitz Report)—The theoretical physicist Stephen Hawking angered supporters of Donald J. Trump on Monday by responding to a question about the billionaire with a baffling array of long words.
Speaking to a television interviewer in London, Hawking called Trump “a demagogue who seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator,” a statement that many Trump supporters believed was intentionally designed to confuse them.
Moments after Hawking made the remark, Google reported a sharp increase in searches for the terms “demagogue,” “denominator,” and “Stephen Hawking.”
“For a so-called genius, this was an epic fail,” Trump’s campaign manager, Corey Lewandowski, said. “If Professor Hawking wants to do some damage, maybe he should try talking in English next time.”
Later in the day, Hawking attempted to clarify his remark about the presumptive Republican Presidential nominee, telling a reporter, “Trump bad man. Real bad man.”
www.newyorker.com//borowitz-report/stephen-hawking-angers-trump-suppor
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second - not only did I read the entire article you linked, I read the linked articles in it as well. And I went through them line by line, parsing out the unsupported (no evidence), the rumors, the false - for example, the authors fundamentally misrepresent the Hatch Act*, and the irrelevant. And I came up with nothing. Literally nothing to discuss. (If you want I can post the long post that goes into tedious detail.)
And not only did the articles fail to support their own conclusions, they failed to support your point, whatever it is (it got hazier and hazier the more I delved into articles that seemed unrelated). I couldn't decide what point you were trying to make, and what you found in the articles that was so compelling you wanted to discuss them. Which is why I gave up on posting my long post that looks at it all.
So, rather than me posting all sorts of things that might or might not respond, let me ask you directly - what is your claim? I thought it was that the FBI is part of a cabal to bring down hillary. Is that your claim? And, whatever claim you ARE making - what facts in these articles support it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939
*The Hatch Act of 1939, officially An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities, is a United States federal law whose main provision prohibits employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president, vice-president, and certain designated high-level officials of that branch,[1] from engaging in some forms of political activity. (which means neither Giuliani nor Kallstrom are covered)
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Originally posted by second:
The FBI is not on Hillary's side. A cabal of NYC FBI agents (including, or solely, Bret Baier’s false “indictment” leaker), may well have PLANTED those emails on Weiner’s laptop–possibly at the behest of Rudy Giuliani or James Kallstrom, or both, who ARE part of the cabal’s conspiracy to violate the Hatch Act (to name just one of a slew of federal criminal statutes these folks have violated).
http://angrybearblog.com/2016/11/i-retract-my-retraction-a-cabal-of-ny
c-fbi-agents-including-or-solely-bret-baiers-false-indictment-leak-may-well-have-planted-those-emails-on-weiner.html
Meet Donald Trump’s Top FBI Fanboy
Trump supporters with strong ties to the agency kept talking about surprises and leaks to come—and come they did.
Two days before FBI director James Comey rocked the world last week, Rudy Giuliani was on Fox, where he volunteered, un-prodded by any question: “I think he’s [Donald Trump] got a surprise or two that you’re going to hear about in the next few days. I mean, I’m talking about some pretty big surprises.”
Pressed for specifics, he said: “We’ve got a couple of things up our sleeve that should turn this thing around.”
The man who now leads “lock-her-up” chants at Trump rallies spent decades of his life as a federal prosecutor and then mayor working closely with the FBI, and especially its New York office. One of Giuliani’s security firms employed a former head of the New York FBI office, and other alumni of it. It was agents of that office, probing Anthony Weiner’s alleged sexting of a minor, who pressed Comey to authorize the review of possible Hillary Clinton-related emails on a Weiner device that led to the explosive letter the director wrote Congress.
Hours after Comey’s letter about the renewed probe was leaked on Friday, Giuliani went on a radio show and attributed the director’s surprise action to “the pressure of a group of FBI agents who don’t look at it politically.”
“The other rumor that I get is that there’s a kind of revolution going on inside the FBI about the original conclusion [not to charge Clinton] being completely unjustified and almost a slap in the face to the FBI’s integrity,” said Giuliani. “I know that from former agents. I know that even from a few active agents.”
Along with Giuliani’s other connections to New York FBI agents, his former law firm, then called Bracewell Giuliani, has long been general counsel to the
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She is also working to convince Russians to accept their plight by implying it is the same everywhere.= THUGR
GOOD LORD!!! HOW MANY RUSSIANS do you imagine are reading any of these posts?? = SIGNY
2= THUGR
My point exactly.
Why would I be working to "convince Russians to accept their plight" on this forum if only two (or none) are reading it? You just shot yourself in the foot. That problem may be why you were dishonorably discharged from the army.
Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?
G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60903&p=4#1
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Quote:1kiki, when you quote the Hatch Act, you forgot to mention that all the FBI agents involved work for the government. They will be in trouble. Those agents are connected to Trump through ex-government employees Giuliani and Kallstrom.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
second -
So, let me ask you directly - what is your claim? I thought it was that the FBI is part of a cabal to bring down hillary. Is that your claim? And, whatever claim you ARE making - what facts in these articles support it?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hatch_Act_of_1939
*The Hatch Act of 1939, officially An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities, is a United States federal law whose main provision prohibits employees in the executive branch of the federal government, except the president, vice-president, and certain designated high-level officials of that branch,[1] from engaging in some forms of political activity. (which means neither Giuliani nor Kallstrom are covered)
There is one HUGH fact that can’t be verified until after the election: The FBI will NOT file charges against Hillary. If the FBI agents had anything they could have already announced it, but if they were working for Trump the FBI agents will take as much time as possible, about 4 years, before announcing they have nothing to charge Hillary with.
If the FBI does NOT file, then we know this was a political dirty trick played by Giuliani, Kallstrom and their friends inside the FBI. Kallstrom is the former head of the New York FBI office. Kallstrom has often been on Fox, where he’s called the Clintons a “crime family.”
If Trump wins, nobody in the FBI loses their job for playing this trick. Giuliani and Kallstrom won't lose their new government jobs in the Trump White House, either.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Is that your claim? That FBI agents violated/ are violating the Hatch Act?
You can find more details @ wiki, but these I believe are the salient points of the Hatch Act:
ORIGINALLY: The 1939 Act forbade the intimidation or bribery of voters and restricted political campaign activities by federal employees, using public relief or public works funds electoral purposes, forbade officials paid with federal funds from using promises of jobs, promotion, financial assistance, contracts, or any other benefit to coerce campaign contributions or political support, and forbade persons below the policy-making level in the executive branch of the federal government from generally illegal political practices
HOWEVER, it was amended in 1993 to ALLOW personal activity in "political management or political campaigns." Federal employees are still forbidden to use their authority to affect the results of an election, run for office in a partisan election, solicit or receive political contributions, and engage in political activities while on duty or on federal property.
So, political activity in and of itself is allowed, as long as it's otherwise legal, and doesn't take place on employer time, or property.
I think the political activities of Guiliani and Kallstrom are evident - and as private citizens their involvement is completely legal.
What I find more tenuous are the claims that active FBI agents working on the Weiner case were and/ or are, actively involved. That rests on the very inconsistent statements by Guiliani (and it's not like he's never exaggerated his part or connections), and Kallstrom. As for Kallstrom, while he verified he knows agents actively involved in email-gate, it was after the investigation was closed (and before it was re-opened). He's fairly consistent in saying he has no contact with, in fact doesn't even know, any agents on Weiner-gate.
So, the whole idea that it's a 'fact' that there's a cadre of FBI agents in the NY office violating the Hatch Act trying to take down hillary via Weiner-gate seems to based on the inconsistent claims of a blowhard. And also the innuendo it must be true because all of the players knew each other from way back.
That's why I'm hoping you can point out the facts (things backed by evidence). I didn't find any, just claims to 'know' things made by a dubious source. But certainly I might have missed the facts that exist that show that indeed, FBI agents violated/ are violating the Hatch Act.
I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.
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