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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 11:05 AM

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Yeah no 1kiki. We all know you not SECOND to be the liar here.= THUGR
This from the frankly delusional person of the board. You've become the new PirateNews, except to half as smart.




Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 12:12 PM

Would you have praised the FBI for rekindling a controversy involving a felony that you, 1kiki, was accused of only for the FBI to say "Never mind" on Nov 6th?

Well, hon, the FBI never 'accused' hillary, not the first time and not the reprise.

You're still deeply confused. I suggest you look up the legal definition of 'accuse'.

eta - to help you out - to be accused of something means you've been charged with a crime - usually after being arrested.




I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:44 PM

Extremely well put, argued and expressed. To the point, concise and poignant.
This is about Democracy (with a capital D) and not a dictatorship. Every 4 years we elect a new president, but we also vote for representatives to help run the country. In recent years, ever since Obama has won the office, that has been distorted to a high degree, because of a "handful" of dissidents who refuse to accept a man, a highly educated man, can efficiently run the country merely because he's a Democrat.

I watched Trump's rally tonight in Michigan, and he stated that he was running for the presidency to "restore" the country to greatness. That implies that we are no longer great. Since when, exactly!? He also said something that was surprising, not so much that he thought it, but that he said it out loud...and I'm paraphrasing:

He said that there would be one America with one religion and one people.

Now that's scary.


SGG




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Originally posted by second:
Just as a quick recap:

1) Trump built his early political notoriety via “birtherism,” explicitly working to undermine the legitimacy of our elected President.

2) He has continually vilified immigrants and foreigners generally, promoting an us-against-them mentality between people of different races and ethnicities.

3) He has pledged to violate the Constitutional principle of freedom of religion, from banning Muslims from entering the country to tracking ones that are here.

4) His campaign, and the Republican party more generally, has openly engaged in suppressing the vote from groups unlikely to support him. (“‘We have three major voter suppression operations underway,’ says a senior [Trump] official.”) www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign-voter-sup
pression.html?_r=0


5) He has glorified violence against protesters who disagree with him. www.weeklystandard.com/protester-would-be-carried-out-on-a-stretcher-i
n-the-old-days-trump-reminisces/article/2001211


6) He has lied at an unprecedented, astonishing rate, secure in the knowledge that his statements will be taken as true by a large fraction of his intended audience. www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unau
thorized-database-of-false-things.html


7) He has presented himself as a uniquely powerful strongman who can solve problems through his personal force of will, and spoke admiringly of dictators from Vladimir Putin to Kim Jong-un to Saddam Hussein. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-doubles-do
wn-fear-justifies-a-strongman
/

8) He has vowed that if he wins the election, he will seek vengeance on those who opposed him, including throwing his opponent into prison. www.salon.com/2016/10/10/donald-trump-town-hall-debate-arrest-hillary-
clinton
/

9) He has repeatedly cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election outcome, implying that he would refuse to accept the result if he lost.

10) He has pointed fingers at a shadowy global conspiracy in charge of world finance, often with explicitly anti-Semitic overtones. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-defamation-league-donald-trump_us_58
1f6a6ce4b0aac624850cbf


11) Several Republican politicians have broached the prospect of refusing to confirm any Supreme Court nominees from a Democratic President. https://thefederalist.com/2016/10/26/senate-refuse-confirm-hillary-cli
ntons-judicial-nominees
/

12) A government agency, the FBI, has interfered in a Presidential election. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/31/james-comey-fbi-hillary-clinto
n-hatch-act-election


13) Republicans have accused Democratic officeholders of being traitors. https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/795471264756465671

14) A number of Trump supporters have spoken of the prospect of violent resistance if Clinton is elected. www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html

This is not a list of “why Donald Trump is a bad person who is disastrously unqualified for the Presidency”;

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:53 PM

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More defensible would have been the FBI waiting until yesterday to either drop a bombshell that Hillary would be indicted or else the FBI silently finishes reading Wienergate emails and announces nothing publicly about even the existence of the emails.


True. Say nothing until such time as you have damning evidence (this goes for any government agency or public servant). And if you're going to reveal that there's an investigation taking place, then more info regarding the evidence should be subsequently released. End of story.


SGG

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 3:20 PM





Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 4:00 PM

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For the arithmetically challenged, 51 percent of Trump's statement were categorically false, compared to 13 percent of Clinton's.

Do you really believe that

The 30,000 emails on her server were all "personal"?
She really didn't know what she was doing when she ordered those emails to be erased?
She didn't know about cleaning a server when she said "you mean like with a cloth?"
She "didn't remember" about 20 thing when being questioned by Congress?
Benghazi was caused by a movie?
17 agencies had proof that Russia was behind the DNC hacks?
And that the Russians were trying to interfere with our election
And that Trump was a Putin minion?
ISIS is using videos of Donald Trump?
That Trump is ISIS "best recruiter"?
She landed "under sniper fire" in Bosnia?
That all of her grandparents were immigrants?
"I have been a critic of NAFTA from the very beginning".
Chelsea Clinton was jogging around WTC on 9-11
"Dead broke" leaving the WH
"Instrumental in the N Ireland peace process"
A "no fly zone" will save lives in Syria.


Hillary lies with forethought. Nothing comes out of her mouth that hasn't been approved and tested.

One of the things that will NOT move me, SECOND, is any reference to Trump's personality flaws because Hillary is just as deeply flawed... more so, if you look at how she plays footsie with and the number of people that she's advocated killing.

That is one of her big downsides, and the one that you can never seem to address.








Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 9:12 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Do you really believe that ? . . . Hillary lies with forethought. Nothing comes out of her mouth that hasn't been approved and tested. One of the things that will NOT move me, SECOND, is any reference to Trump's personality flaws because Hillary is just as deeply flawed...

Signym, on Hillary and Trump you have become unhinged from reality. Seek help from Glenn Beck. After 8 years where none of his daily predictions ever came true about future disasters caused by Democrats, Glenn Beck had this to say about Trump:

Glenn Beck told a story of Trump summoning him to a guest room at Mar-a-Lago; Trump then telephoned him from an adjacent room. “We had this weird, almost Howard Hughes-like conversation,” Beck said. He left convinced that Trump was nuts. “This guy is dangerously unhinged,” he said. “And, for all the things people have said about me over the years, I should be able to spot Dangerously Unhinged.”

Beck went on, “What’s most tragic about this is us. We have, as a culture, embraced the bad guys. I love Tony Soprano. But, when a Tony Soprano shows up in your life, you don’t love him so much.”

“We’ve made everything into a game show,” he said, “and now we’re reaping the consequences of it.”

www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/14/glenn-beck-tries-out-decency

From his professional experience on FOX, the game show reference was Glenn Beck being sadly aware of sophists saying anything, even flat lies, to win the game they are playing on TV or radio or fireflyfans.net.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

That is one of her big downsides, and the one that you can never seem to address.

I don’t address your concerns because I think you are like Glenn Beck before he tried to be a decent person. He was making predictions that never came true and warning of conspiracies to overthrow Democracy that never happened, no matter how many years passed. After many years of being wrong, Glenn Beck slowly began to notice his errors. Too bad for you not having Glenn Beck’s big audience to tell you a million times that you’re wrong.
www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/11/14/glenn-beck-tries-out-decency

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 9:30 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Yeah no 1kiki. We all know you not SECOND to be the liar here.= THUGR
This from the frankly delusional person of the board. You've become the new PirateNews, except to half as smart.





Open your eyes SIG, look in the mirror. It's you who cuts and pastes all the negative bullshit in these threads. It's you starting thread after thread of bitching and moaning.

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 9:40 PM

Yes, and it's telling that 1kiki and SIG favor the candidate whose statements on how he would govern, resembles a dictator. Very telling, and makes the point I have been making about them since I arrived in theses threads. They are Russian trolls. Even if per chance they do now reside in the United States, they are Russian trolls.


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Originally posted by SHINYGOODGUY:
Extremely well put, argued and expressed. To the point, concise and poignant.
This is about Democracy (with a capital D) and not a dictatorship. Every 4 years we elect a new president, but we also vote for representatives to help run the country. In recent years, ever since Obama has won the office, that has been distorted to a high degree, because of a "handful" of dissidents who refuse to accept a man, a highly educated man, can efficiently run the country merely because he's a Democrat.

I watched Trump's rally tonight in Michigan, and he stated that he was running for the presidency to "restore" the country to greatness. That implies that we are no longer great. Since when, exactly!? He also said something that was surprising, not so much that he thought it, but that he said it out loud...and I'm paraphrasing:

He said that there would be one America with one religion and one people.

Now that's scary.


SGG




Quote:

Originally posted by second:
Just as a quick recap:

1) Trump built his early political notoriety via “birtherism,” explicitly working to undermine the legitimacy of our elected President.

2) He has continually vilified immigrants and foreigners generally, promoting an us-against-them mentality between people of different races and ethnicities.

3) He has pledged to violate the Constitutional principle of freedom of religion, from banning Muslims from entering the country to tracking ones that are here.

4) His campaign, and the Republican party more generally, has openly engaged in suppressing the vote from groups unlikely to support him. (“‘We have three major voter suppression operations underway,’ says a senior [Trump] official.”) www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign-voter-sup
pression.html?_r=0


5) He has glorified violence against protesters who disagree with him. www.weeklystandard.com/protester-would-be-carried-out-on-a-stretcher-i
n-the-old-days-trump-reminisces/article/2001211


6) He has lied at an unprecedented, astonishing rate, secure in the knowledge that his statements will be taken as true by a large fraction of his intended audience. www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unau
thorized-database-of-false-things.html


7) He has presented himself as a uniquely powerful strongman who can solve problems through his personal force of will, and spoke admiringly of dictators from Vladimir Putin to Kim Jong-un to Saddam Hussein. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-doubles-do
wn-fear-justifies-a-strongman
/

8) He has vowed that if he wins the election, he will seek vengeance on those who opposed him, including throwing his opponent into prison. www.salon.com/2016/10/10/donald-trump-town-hall-debate-arrest-hillary-
clinton
/

9) He has repeatedly cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election outcome, implying that he would refuse to accept the result if he lost.

10) He has pointed fingers at a shadowy global conspiracy in charge of world finance, often with explicitly anti-Semitic overtones. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-defamation-league-donald-trump_us_58
1f6a6ce4b0aac624850cbf


11) Several Republican politicians have broached the prospect of refusing to confirm any Supreme Court nominees from a Democratic President. https://thefederalist.com/2016/10/26/senate-refuse-confirm-hillary-cli
ntons-judicial-nominees
/

12) A government agency, the FBI, has interfered in a Presidential election. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/31/james-comey-fbi-hillary-clinto
n-hatch-act-election


13) Republicans have accused Demo

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Wednesday, November 9, 2016 2:19 PM

THGRRI, Second, G, Mal4Prez, Joy


I WEEP FOR MY COUNTRY...........JFK just turned over in his grave!

This is a sad state of affairs, stock market is crashing and they just put a hold on the Futures Market. This will reverberate around the world.



SGG



Freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose

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