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Monday, November 7, 2016 3:01 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

What I find more tenuous are the claims that active FBI agents working on the Weiner case were and/ or are, actively involved. That rests on the very inconsistent statements by Guiliani (and it's not like he's never exaggerated his part or connections), and Kallstrom. As for Kallstrom, while he verified he knows agents actively involved in email-gate, it was after the investigation was closed (and before it was re-opened). He's fairly consistent in saying he has no contact with, in fact doesn't even know, any agents on Weiner-gate.

So, the whole idea that it's a 'fact' that there's a cadre of FBI agents in the NY office violating the Hatch Act trying to take down hillary seems to based on the inconsistent claims of a blowhard. And also the innuendo it must be true because all of the players knew each other from way back.

That's why I'm hoping you can point out the facts (things backed by evidence). Certainly I might have missed them.

You have the sneering attitude of Trump's defense lawyer proclaiming everybody is presumed innocent until all the FBI agents working on Weinergate testify under oath that they know Trump, Hillary, Guiliani and Kallstrom and the agents were colluding against Hillary. Only with such self-incriminating testimony by FBI agents would 1kiki be convinced that Hatch Act was violated by FBI agents.

A lawyer prosecuting Trump would tell the court that every FBI agent working on Weinergate can quickly and convincingly prove they are innocent by filing charges against Hillary. I look forward to the day the FBI files those charges and proves those agents are innocent.

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Monday, November 7, 2016 3:18 AM

The New York Times has a truly remarkable piece this morning about the final days of the Trump campaign:

Aboard his gold-plated jumbo jet, the Republican nominee does not like to rest or be alone with his thoughts, insisting that aides stay up and keep talking to him. He prefers the soothing, whispery voice of his son-in-law.

....Mr. Trump’s candidacy is a jarring split screen: the choreographed show of calm and confidence orchestrated by his staff, and the neediness and vulnerability of a once-boastful candidate now uncertain of victory.

....Aides to Mr. Trump have finally wrested away the Twitter account that he used to colorfully — and often counterproductively — savage his rivals. But offline, Mr. Trump still privately muses about all of the ways he will punish his enemies after Election Day, including a threat to fund a “super PAC” with vengeance as its core mission.

His polished older daughter, Ivanka, sat for a commercial intended to appeal to suburban women who have recoiled from her father’s incendiary language. But she discouraged the campaign from promoting the ad in news releases, fearing that her high-profile association with the campaign would damage the businesses that bear her name.

Staring at Defeat, Donald Trump Is Sleepless and Vengeful. How...Nixonian.

www.nytimes.com/2016/11/07/us/politics/donald-trump-presidential-race.
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Monday, November 7, 2016 3:54 AM

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That's why I'm hoping you can point out the facts (things backed by evidence). Certainly I might have missed them.- KIKI

You have the sneering attitude of Trump's defense lawyer proclaiming everybody is presumed innocent until all the FBI agents working on Weinergate testify under oath that they know Trump, Hillary, Guiliani and Kallstrom and the agents were colluding against Hillary. = SECOND

So, no facts.

Also, isn't "presumed innocent" the way it works?



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Monday, November 7, 2016 4:25 AM

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That's why I'm hoping you can point out the facts (things backed by evidence). Certainly I might have missed them.- KIKI

You have the sneering attitude of Trump's defense lawyer proclaiming everybody is presumed innocent until all the FBI agents working on Weinergate testify under oath that they know Trump, Hillary, Guiliani and Kallstrom and the agents were colluding against Hillary. = SECOND

So, no facts.

Also, isn't "presumed innocent" the way it works?

Presumed innocent means that FBI does not accuse Hillary of a crime before indicting her. Here is another fact for you. I hope you're as angry as Trump was. Fortunately, Trump was wearing brown pants when he "lost control of his bowel movement" because he was so furious at the FBI's Comey for backing down. Trump then changed his suit:

FBI Director James B. Comey said Sunday that after reviewing newly discovered Hillary Clinton emails, his agency had again determined that the Democratic presidential candidate should face no criminal charges for her email practices, clearing a distraction that had dogged the final days of Clinton’s campaign and providing perhaps the last twist of the wild 2016 election year.

Comey notified key members of Congress of the finding in a letter sent Sunday afternoon, writing that investigators had worked “around the clock” to review all the emails found on a device used by former congressman Anthony Weiner that had been sent to or from Clinton and determined that the emails did not change “our conclusions expressed in July.”

With the letter, Comey removed the pending FBI investigation from the last 48 hours of the campaign. But the central role the FBI has played in the political process for months could cause lingering trouble for the nation’s top law enforcement agency, including personally for Comey, who must work with whoever is elected president on Tuesday.

Investigators reviewing the material found that the emails were either duplicates of correspondence they had reviewed earlier or personal e-mails that did not pertain to State Department business, a government official said. The official said Comey’s letter was not an “interim report” but rather represented a conclusion of the investigation.

Comey had upended the campaign just nine days ago, when he alerted Congress that new emails had been located that were related to Clinton’s use of a private server as secretary of state.

www.washingtonpost.com/politics/fbi-director-comey-says-agency-wont-re
commend-charges-over-clinton-email/2016/11/06/f6276b18-a45e-11e6-ba59-a7d93165c6d4_story.html


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Monday, November 7, 2016 6:14 AM

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The points Bernie made in his interview should be kept in mind for the next four years, no matter what happens this month. = SECOND

So now that you're discovering the possibility of a GOP President in the near future - perhaps the VERY near future - you're rediscovering your liberal principles??? MY, HOW CONVENIENT!

You should have thought of that BEFORE you started thumping for one of the most corrupt politicians in the pantheon, and his wife. Maybe next time you'll think about that BEFORE you attach yourself to the asshole of the Democratic Party. =SIGNY

Every single time you make comments like that I think that Signym spends too much time in troll mode. = SECOND


I'm in troll mode? This from the person who posts everyone else's opinion except their own, plus snarky cartoons, satire, and lies?

Here's my problem with you and the rest of the liberaloids, SECOND. You've been responding to "identity politics" no matter what Hillary has done that was illegal or immoral or dangerous to the nation. Somehow, your principles and your objectivity - if you have any- have become defunct.

So the "identities" that you respond to - women, nonwhite, Democratic, poor.

Yanno I was listening to NPR the other day, and they had this little piece on The poor illegal immigrant felon! So there he was, describing (in Spanish) his pathetic current life, how he can't see his (American) family except once a week. How he got to this sorry state because he immigrated illegally twice, got amnesty under Reagan, got a green card, married and had four children, then made a "mistake" by transporting drugs. How he got caught, and booted out of the USA. Pobrecito! And these liberaloids are whining that this guy deserves another chance. So, he hasn't even bothered to learn English, he's already broken the law three times: WHY in god's name does he "deserve" another chance? We don't even give those kinds of chances to our own felons!

And then there was this long disquisition on "Fresh Air" about how Trump, the Republican, took the place of the democrats when it came to represent the white working class. So by rationalizing its transition ... how the Democratic party stopped representing people on the "lower socioeconomic scale" (although it claims to represent blacks and Hispanics), how the Democratic party came to stop representing the "less educated" (although it claims to represent blacks and Hispanics), how the Democratic party stopped representing "workers" (although it claims to represent immigrant workers) ... the Democratic party came to become IN MY OPINION a biased, racially-based political party.

And there was some outrage, and perhaps a little fear, that the Republican party was pandering to self-identified group of white working-class Americans, and I thought ...

Wait, isn't "black lives matter" a self-identified, racially-motivated group?
Isn't "la Raza" a self-identified cultural (they claim "racial") group?
Aren't WOMEN a self-identified gender group?
Is every other group allowed some sort of self-identification, but not allowed for Trump supporters? Does the process of self-identification suddenly become dangerous ONLY for this group of people?

Now, you might think that I'm aiming at "white" self-identification, but I'm not.

Select to view spoiler:


What is wrong with identifying yourself as a worker?
What is wrong with identifying yourself as American?



The purview of our government is the United States and Americans, not every other fucking nation on this globe and every other person elsewhere. WE can't do anything about Mexico's corrupt politics that might impoverish their people and drive them towards our border, but what we can do is stop our transnationals from fucking up their internal processes. WE can't s

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Monday, November 7, 2016 7:08 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

Here's my problem with you and the rest of the liberaloids, SECOND. You've . . .

I don’t mind too much if Trump wins because I will get a huge tax cut from Trump. He promised! Hillary will only raise my taxes. She takes me for granted.
http://m.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/10/final-numbers-are-trumps-t
ax-plan-huge-windfall-wealthy




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Monday, November 7, 2016 7:15 AM

What good will your "tax cut" do if we are at war?



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
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Monday, November 7, 2016 7:17 AM

Time for the trolls to crawl back under the rocks from whence they came.

FBI Completes Review of Newly Revealed Hillary Clinton Emails, Finds No Evidence of Criminality

FBI Director James Comey said Sunday that the bureau won't change the conclusion it made in July after it examined newly revealed emails related to the Hillary Clinton probe.

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton," Comey wrote in a letter to 16 members of Congress.


http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/fbi-completes-review-new
ly-revealed-hillary-clinton-emails-finds-no-n678701


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Monday, November 7, 2016 7:26 AM

Julian Assange was correct: Trump will not be allowed to win.

Well, we get to see if the FBI will ever investigate Saudi Princess and operative Huma Abedin, or the criminal enterprise that is the Clinton Foundation, or if we Americans will be sold down river.



THUGR is an anti-American Soros troll.

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Monday, November 7, 2016 8:23 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Julian Assange was correct: Trump will not be allowed to win.

Well, we get to see if the FBI will ever investigate Saudi Princess and operative Huma Abedin, or the criminal enterprise that is the Clinton Foundation, or if we Americans will be sold down river.




Trump has had a year and a half to make his case. The people will vote and that will be that. You can shove your conspiracy theories. They are for stupid people who are led around by the nose. Trump will not be allowed to win. Just how stupid are you?


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