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Monday, November 7, 2016 9:28 PM

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Originally posted by THGRRI:
Time for the trolls to crawl back under the rocks from whence they came.

FBI Completes Review of Newly Revealed Hillary Clinton Emails, Finds No Evidence of Criminality

FBI Director James Comey said Sunday that the bureau won't change the conclusion it made in July after it examined newly revealed emails related to the Hillary Clinton probe.

"Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Secretary Clinton," Comey wrote in a letter to 16 members of Congress.



Shocking! < / jokey voice >

I wonder if that will be the same conclusion after 7 more investigations (like Bengahzi) ?

I loved the "Trump rushed from stage" videos that have been circling. I wonder if Mr. NRA 2nd amendment is still all pro gun? Someone just says "gun" and they run away. What a horror show this campaign is. And I thought Palin was an all time low.



She was but in a different way. There is plenty of room at the bottom and Palin and trump both share space there. I noticed SIG in the post below yours thinks she is the only American here. What a whack job. The socialist who loves authoritarianism and hates liberals. No way someone with those beliefs understands what it means to be American.

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Monday, November 7, 2016 9:40 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

And you both are also moral horror shows. My god, I sometimes feel like the only American here. (Well, except for you, GSTRING, since I know you're Canadian. It's OK if you don't keep America's interests at heart.)

Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

If we're calling each other names, I'd call Signym a scoundrel, as in the phrase "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." That would be per Samuel Johnson, April 7, 1775, as recorded by James Boswell.
www.samueljohnson.com/refuge.html

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Monday, November 7, 2016 9:42 PM

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The socialist who loves authoritarianism and hates liberals.
It's the "progressives" here who love authoritarianism. They love TBTB. They love everyplace else except the USA, and everyone else except Americans. They conflate our American interests with the world. They're so sorry about the poor illegal immigrant felons, and the poor Libyans, they think they MUST do "something" abroad without ever thinking about what to do at home.

And they spend ENDLESS amounts of time bitching about Putin and kvetching about Russia... yanno, online, the only people who spend as much time talking about Russia are Russians!

These self-proclaimed progressives are deeply interested in what everyone else does, and see fit to intervene in the entire world without trying to even identify the problems here.

They can't figure out what AMERICA'S INTERESTS ARE, and they dare not even try to answer the question because it might bring that topic into view. They love - or at least tolerate- the corruption that Big Money brings. They lie, to themselves and consequently to everyone else. "Business as usual" and "We are special" are their mottoes.

I have never seen as hidebound, moralistic, and nasty bunch of "believers" as these socalled "progressives" except the neocons.

They are UNPRINCIPLED. Everything is relativism and convenience. That is why they NEVER discuss reality or causation. And they will never, but NEVER, look at the horror that their ideology has wrought, or where it will yet lead.




Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60903&p=4#1
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Monday, November 7, 2016 10:10 PM

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Looks like she's hungover again. 3... 2... 1... add raging spittle... ready projectile bile... fire!
And here is an example of one of those non-American "progressives" who will use lies, snark, and more lies, just to evade THINKING about what they're doing.

GSTRING, you just love taking cheap shots. And that's what you are: cheap. Just a stoopid millennial who can't be parted form his iPhone. But since you're Canadian, who the fuck cares what you think of American politics?



Hillary is a WAR CANDIDATE, and that's just what we need, right? More war?

G, THUGR, MAL4: Oh BTW, please define intelligence.
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.aspx?bid=18&tid=60903&p=4#1
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Monday, November 7, 2016 10:45 PM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
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Looks like she's hungover again. 3... 2... 1... add raging spittle... ready projectile bile... fire!
And here is an example of one of those non-American "progressives" who will use lies, snark, and more lies, just to evade THINKING about what they're doing.

GSTRING, you just love taking cheap shots. And that's what you are: cheap. Just a stoopid millennial who can't be parted form his iPhone. But since you're Canadian, who the fuck cares what you think of American politics?




Fist SIG, these threads are full of lies and deceptions posted by you over the years here, so you statement is quite funny.

Secondly, it's also funny you the Russia troll has the audacity to call our Canadian allies anti American.

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:

They can't figure out what AMERICA'S INTERESTS ARE, and they dare not even try to answer the question because it might bring that topic into view. They love - or at least tolerate- the corruption that Big Money brings. They lie, to themselves and consequently to everyone else. "Business as usual" and "We are special" are their mottoes.

I have never seen as hidebound, moralistic, and nasty bunch of "believers" as these socalled "progressives" except the neocons.

They are UNPRINCIPLED. Everything is relativism and convenience. That is why they NEVER discuss reality or causation. And they will never, but NEVER, look at the horror that their ideology has wrought, or where it will yet lead.

Chart of the Day: Donald Trump Is the Most Dishonest Politician Alive

www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/nov/01/truth-check-clint
on-and-trump-truth-o-meter-1-week
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For the arithmetically challenged, 51 percent of Trump's statement were categorically false, compared to 13 percent of Clinton's.

The only reason I'm putting this up is because we've all gotten so bored with it. Trump lies so consistently and so baldly that we barely even notice it anymore unless he says something truly outrageous—with the bar for "outrageous" moving upward all the time. Trump has ushered in an era of not merely exaggerating or cherry picking or twisting or evading. He just says anything he wants, and his followers buy it. Hey Trump followers, this isn't normal, and you shouldn't accept it as normal.

Signym, nobody here but maybe 1kiki thinks you are an authentic citizen of the USA, or even a real person. That is why you get accused of being a Russian troll. You just write things for affect. Trump does the same, but we know he is real. You can't convince anybody you're anything but a fake.

If you are real, my apologies. Please get help from your local mental health providers.

The real people I know supporting Trump do it for real reasons that are perfectly understandable. I just don't share their values. You, on the other hand, give reasons that nobody real could believe, other than the mentally ill. You're terrible at political philosophy and abstract reasoning. I even understand why Trump is doing what he does. He has reasons to be who he is. Again, I just don't share his values. I find him forgivable. You are just loathsome. Trump I simple don't want to be President, but I can live with him. You will still be yourself, whoever the hell you really are, no matter whether Trump wins or loses tomorrow. Too bad for you.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 1:05 AM

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1kiki, how would you react to a headline in today's Houston Post that reads: "FBI clears 1kiki in felony case
second, you're confused. First you claim that the FBI ACCUSED hillary. NOW you're complaining about the headlines - which - NOTE - are NOT the FBI.

So, we're agreed - THE FBI NEVER ACCUSED hillary.


As as for your propensity to lie, do you mean THIS headline, second?

https://www.pressreader.com/usa/houston-chronicle/20161107/28149216088
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FBI clears Clinton in email case




I TOLD YOU SO will be very sweet indeed, and repeated often.

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 2:33 AM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

second, you're confused. First you claim that the FBI ACCUSED hillary. NOW you're complaining about the headlines - which - NOTE - are NOT the FBI.

So, we're agreed - THE FBI NEVER ACCUSED hillary.


As as for your propensity to lie, do you mean THIS headline, second?

On Oct 29th the FBI joined the Trump campaign for President. On Nov 6th the FBI stopped campaigning for Trump. To make that concrete for 1kiki:

Would you have praised the FBI for rekindling a controversy involving a felony that you, 1kiki, was accused of only for the FBI to say "Never mind" on Nov 6th? By rekindling I mean the FBI goes to 1kiki’s workplace, while 1kiki is there, and gathers all co-workers and bosses to tell them you might have committed a felony. The FBI goes to 1kiki’s neighborhood, while 1kiki is there, and gathers all 1kiki’s neighbors to tell them you might have committed a felony. Is that normal for the FBI? No. It is not normal for the FBI to do the same to Hillary.

Do you remember this story from Oct 29th?
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The FBI rattled the presidential race Friday by announcing it is again probing emails that might be related to her private server, rekindling a politically damaging controversy for Clinton and reinvigorating Republicans scrambling to hold on to congressional seats.

Because Comey had told Congress that the FBI had finished investigating Clinton’s server, he felt he needed to let lawmakers know that agents were looking into the case again in light of the recent discovery, the official said.

More defensible would have been the FBI waiting until yesterday to either drop a bombshell that Hillary would be indicted or else the FBI silently finishes reading Wienergate emails and announces nothing publicly about even the existence of the emails.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 2:35 AM

Yeah no 1kiki. We all know you not SECOND to be the liar here.

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016 2:35 AM

Just as a quick recap:

1) Trump built his early political notoriety via “birtherism,” explicitly working to undermine the legitimacy of our elected President.

2) He has continually vilified immigrants and foreigners generally, promoting an us-against-them mentality between people of different races and ethnicities.

3) He has pledged to violate the Constitutional principle of freedom of religion, from banning Muslims from entering the country to tracking ones that are here.

4) His campaign, and the Republican party more generally, has openly engaged in suppressing the vote from groups unlikely to support him. (“‘We have three major voter suppression operations underway,’ says a senior [Trump] official.”) www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-campaign-voter-sup
pression.html?_r=0


5) He has glorified violence against protesters who disagree with him. www.weeklystandard.com/protester-would-be-carried-out-on-a-stretcher-i
n-the-old-days-trump-reminisces/article/2001211


6) He has lied at an unprecedented, astonishing rate, secure in the knowledge that his statements will be taken as true by a large fraction of his intended audience. www.thestar.com/news/world/uselection/2016/11/04/donald-trump-the-unau
thorized-database-of-false-things.html


7) He has presented himself as a uniquely powerful strongman who can solve problems through his personal force of will, and spoke admiringly of dictators from Vladimir Putin to Kim Jong-un to Saddam Hussein. www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2016/07/21/trump-doubles-do
wn-fear-justifies-a-strongman
/

8) He has vowed that if he wins the election, he will seek vengeance on those who opposed him, including throwing his opponent into prison. www.salon.com/2016/10/10/donald-trump-town-hall-debate-arrest-hillary-
clinton
/

9) He has repeatedly cast doubt on the legitimacy of the election outcome, implying that he would refuse to accept the result if he lost.

10) He has pointed fingers at a shadowy global conspiracy in charge of world finance, often with explicitly anti-Semitic overtones. www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/anti-defamation-league-donald-trump_us_58
1f6a6ce4b0aac624850cbf


11) Several Republican politicians have broached the prospect of refusing to confirm any Supreme Court nominees from a Democratic President. https://thefederalist.com/2016/10/26/senate-refuse-confirm-hillary-cli
ntons-judicial-nominees
/

12) A government agency, the FBI, has interfered in a Presidential election. www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/oct/31/james-comey-fbi-hillary-clinto
n-hatch-act-election


13) Republicans have accused Democratic officeholders of being traitors. https://twitter.com/GarrettHaake/status/795471264756465671

14) A number of Trump supporters have spoken of the prospect of violent resistance if Clinton is elected. www.nytimes.com/2016/10/28/us/politics/donald-trump-voters.html

This is not a list of “why Donald Trump is a bad person who is disastrously unqualified for the Presidency”; that would be much longer. Rather, I wanted to highlight features of the campaign that are specifically attacks on (small-“d”) democratic norms and values. The assumptions, often unspoken, by which legitimate political opponents have generally agreed to operate by over the course of the last two centuries and more.

Democracy is a curious and fragile thing. It’s not just “majority rules”; crucial to the project are the ideas that (1) minority rights are still respected, and (2) in return, losing minorities respect electoral outcomes. It’s the second of these that is under siege at the moment. Since the time of the Federalist Papers, it’s been understood that democracy is an attempt to provide common self-rule for people who don’t agree on everything, but who at least share the common values of democracy itself. Having strong, even extremely passionate, political disagreements is inevitable in a democratic system. The question is whether we cast those with whom we disagree as enemies, traitors, and cheate

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