TRUMP - Just because.....................Naw, I just can't say it!
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Good Grief, It's A Charlie Brown Christmas Special!
Who won Santa's vote for President?
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Quote:1kiki, you could just as easily ask why nobody did anything to protect Blacks after Southern Reconstruction collapsed in 1877 until 1964. My answer would be that the vast majority of Americans between 1877 and 1964 did NOT share the values of 2016's Democratic Party toward blacks.
Originally posted by 1kiki:
Is that how democrats lost congress, and 33 out of all 50 governorships, state senates and state houses, mostly back in 2010? Is that how democrats lost voter-identification since 1982? Did democrats end up like this due to a giant Russian ratfucking operation being run since 1982?
Keeping with the same theme and choosing one item out of many where the Democratic Party's values are different than the majority of Americans: the vast majority of Americans in 2016 do NOT share the values of today's Democratic Party toward blacks. The vast majority is nothing like Bernie, for example. That is why Democrats are a minority party and why Bernie would not have won, except in New England states and the West Coast. There was no chance Bernie would win in the Confederate States, especially against a guy like Trump, who LOUDLY insists he is not a racist.
Since Dems and Reps both claim to be not racist, it is very controversial to claim Dems are a minority party because the majority of Americans are racist. Let's compare food, instead. More than two-thirds (68.8 percent) of adults are considered to be overweight or obese. Almost 3 in 4 men (74 percent) are considered to be overweight or obese. I see an advantage for Republicans! Trump of the deep-fried taco bowl and 20-ounce Porterhouse fame represents the majority of Americans. It is the Democrats championing the healthy food movement. That is a losing strategy for Democrats. Republicans will give the people what they want and tell them to eat as much as they please. That is what a winning political strategy looks like.
I could keep going with solid explanations of why Democrats are a minority party. One more: Democrats say that coal produces greenhouses gases that affect climate. That is a losing political idea. Republicans say greenhouses gases don't change climate. That is a winning political idea with coal-miners. People who aren't coal-miners (except for climate scientists) don't care but very little about what nonsense Republicans say about climate, which is a win for Republicans.
Hacked documents were showing up in local races all over the country
www.nytimes.com/2016/12/13/us/politics/house-democrats-hacking-dccc.ht
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The intrusions in House races in states including Pennsylvania, New Hampshire, Ohio, Illinois, New Mexico and North Carolina can be traced to tens of thousands of pages of documents taken from the D.C.C.C., which shares a Capitol Hill office building with the Democratic National Committee....The seats that Guccifer 2.0 targeted in the document dumps were hardly random: They were some of the most competitive House races in the country.
....In Florida, Guccifer 2.0’s most important partner was an obscure political website run by an anonymous blogger called HelloFLA!, run by a former Florida legislative aide turned Republican lobbyist. The blogger sent direct messages via Twitter to Guccifer 2.0 asking for copies of any additional Florida documents. “I can send you some docs via email,” Guccifer 2.0 replied on Aug. 22....“I don’t think you realize what you gave me,” the blogger said, looking at the costly internal D.C.C.C. political research that he had just been provided. “This is probably worth millions of dollars.”
The hacked documents played a big role in a Florida congressional primary between Annette Taddeo and Joe Garcia:
After Mr. Garcia defeated Ms Taddeo in the primary using the material unearthed in the hacking, the National Republican Campaign Committee and a second Republican group with ties to the House speaker, Paul Ryan, turned to the hacked material to attack him.
....After the first political advertisement appeared using the hacked materia
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SECOND:
A large majority of Americans shared the "value" that there should be single payer, or at least government option, for healthcare.
A majority of Americans shared the value that we should stop meddling in the Mideast.
A large majority of Americans disagreed with the bank bailout, and wanted to see real consequences - yanno, like jail time (such as happened under Reagan when the S&L's went tits up) - for the cretins who drove our financial system into the ditch.
If the Democrats has had the spine to actually DO those things, and to make the "recovery" a recovery for everyone, and at least not lose more manufacturing jobs, the Dems would have had a loyal following for decades. But the Dem party's values are mostly about money, and a large part of the remainder is about being a war party, so they ignored what a lot of people wanted. So they deserve to be where they are: busted, after eight years of failure.
Where do they go from here? If Trump is going to be such as ass-kisser to business, if Americans don't see a measurable improvement in their lives, if the wealth gap (which has grown under both Bush AND Obama) continues to grow under Trump ... will the Dems be ready to pick up the pieces? Or will they offer "more of the same", like they did this past year?
Because if all we get is more, and more, and MORE of the same, there will no longer be a Democratic OR a Republican Party remaining.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"
Hillary knew all about the Electoral College when she ran for office. All of this after-the-fact bitching is still just an attempt to rewrite history. I guess you're all still in various stages of grief, including anger, denial, and bargaining, all rol
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Quote:That opinion needs a little proof behind it, Signym. Americans don't even support Obamacare. If they don't qualify for it, they don't want anyone else to have it, either. And they certainly don't want to pay the $1 trillion it costs over 10 years.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND:
A large majority of Americans shared the "value" that there should be single payer, or at least government option, for healthcare.
Quote:I will believe that, Signym, when I see protests on the streets of America for the way Israel treats 1.75 million people like prisoners of war in the Gaza Strip. Didn't you also notice that American Christians back the Jewish Israelis 100% against all Muslims in the world? Didn’t you notice that Americans were okay with invading Iraq, based on obviously, at the time, false rumors of WMD? Americans only turned against that war when the US Army lost control of Iraq in a typical Bush SNAFU. And as far as I know, no Americans are protesting any other war anywhere in the world, not just the Middle East.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND:
A majority of Americans shared the value that we should stop meddling in the Mideast.
Quote:You forgot Enron and "Bernie" Madoff. Those people got hammered by government because they stole money. The bank bailouts were not about stolen money. Those were caused by Bush and the SEC not wanting to impose "unnecessary" regulations on banks. The SEC let any old risky securities to go on sale. The only people punished were the auditors who gave AAA ratings to junk securities.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND:
A large majority of Americans disagreed with the bank bailout, and wanted to see real consequences - yanno, like jail time (such as happened under Reagan when the S&L's went tits up) - for the cretins who drove our financial system into the ditch.
Wall Street tycoons are not in fear of being kidnapped, ransomed, or assassinated for what they have done. If there is even a single American Madman out there who has avenged Main Street for what Wall Street did, I never heard of him. Since not even one crazy American cares, why should politicians? Especially since tycoons have got all the legal help they will ever need to defend themselves from the Justice Department.
Quote:President Obama signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act — the “stimulus” — into law. It helped end the economy’s plunge; it saved millions of jobs.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
SECOND:
If the Democrats has had the spine to actually DO those things, and to make the "recovery" a recovery for everyone, and at least not lose more manufacturing jobs, the Dems would have had a loyal following for decades. But the Dem party's values are mostly about money, and a large part of the remainder is about being a war party, so they ignored what a lot of people wanted. So they deserve to be where they are: busted, after eight years of failure.
It was also a political disaster. And the consequences of that political disaster — the perception that stimulus failed — have haunted economic policy ever since.
www.nytimes.com/2014/02/21/opinion/krugman-the-stimulus-tragedy.html
Republican Mitch McConnell of Kentucky did what he could to prevent a recovery. Did anybody in America punch McConnell’s funny-looking face for what he and the Republicans did? By the way, none those bastards have Secret Service protection. Anybody in Kentucky, if they cared, could hit McConnell. Never happened.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Where do they go from here? If Trump is going to be such as ass-kisser to business, if Americans don't see a measurable improvement in their lives, if the wealth gap (which has grown under both Bush AND Obama) continues to grow under Trump ... will the Dems be ready to pick up the pieces? Or will they offer "more of the same", like they did this past year?
Because if all we get is more, and more, and MORENOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:I can't help it if you;re an ignoramus. Poll after poll taken at the beginning of Obama's term said so. They WOULD have supported single payer because it stood a much better chance of working than Obama's boondoggle.
A large majority of Americans shared the "value" that there should be single payer, or at least government option, for healthcare.- SIGNY
That opinion needs a little proof behind it, Signym. Americans don't even support Obamacare. - SECOND
Quote:Everyone would have qualified. That's the beauty of single payer.
If they don't qualify for it, they don't want anyone else to have it, either.
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A majority of Americans shared the value that we should stop meddling in the Mideast.-SIGNY
I will believe that, Signym, when I see protests on the streets of America for the way Israel treats 1.75 million people like prisoners of war in the Gaza Strip. Didn't you also notice that American Christians back the Jewish Israelis 100% against all Muslims in the world? Didn’t you notice that Americans were okay with invading Iraq, based on obviously, at the time, false rumors of WMD? Americans only turned against that war when the US Army lost control of Iraq in a typical Bush SNAFU. And as far as I know, no Americans are protesting any other war anywhere in the world, not just the Middle East.- SECOND
Protests against the Iraq war
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A large majority of Americans disagreed with the bank bailout, and wanted to see real consequences - yanno, like jail time (such as happened under Reagan when the S&L's went tits up) - for the cretins who drove our financial system into the ditch.- SIGNY
You forgot Enron and "Bernie" Madoff. Those people got hammered by government because they stole money. The bank bailouts were not about stolen money. Those were caused byBush and the SEC not wanting to impose "unnecessary" regulations on banksClinton repealing Glass Steagall and signing the Commodities Futures Modernization Act.
Bush wasn't blameless, but the regulatory allowance was signed by Clinton.
Quote:Are you saying they should be?
Wall Street tycoons are not in fear of being kidnapped, ransomed, or assassinated for what they have done.
Quote:SO because people tried to legal way to influence government
If there is even a single American Madman out there who has avenged Main Street for what Wall Street did, I never heard of him. Since not even one crazy American cares, why should politicians? Especially since tycoons have got all the legal help they will ever need to defend themselves from the Justice Department. - SECOND
TEA PARTY PROTEST
http://americansfortruth.com/uploads/2009/09/tea-party-rally_huge_wash
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OCCUPY PROTEST
AND NOBODY LISTENED, and the protesters didn't take up arms or pay a few snipers to start taking out the top 0.01%, they didn't have a real opinion?
Quote:So basically you're advocating violent revolution, which is the only way people without money get anything done.
Half of Americans are apathetic whiners who can’t do a thing except vote once every two to four years. The other half of them won’t even vote. That half are complete whiners. It is no surprise that those losers get ignored by politicians, but the top 1%, theenergeticwealthy people who know whosearm to twistpalm to grease, always get their way.
Good for you!
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Quote:Revolution? Doesn't that require more than one person? But I have not heard of even a single person punching Mitch McConnell in his funny-looking face. Two, or even three!, in my wildest dreams punching McConnell would please me. They don't even have to do it on the same day because that would require coordination and Americans don't seem able to do much of significance (beyond marching in the street and standing around a building with protest signs. I heard of the Vietnam War protests. Thousands of those didn't work worth a damn, yet any one of them had more passion, because of the draft & the very real possibility of being killed in Vietnam, than all the Tea-party protests & Occupy Wall Street protests put together.) Need I add that the passionate Vietnam protests did not end the war but did end the draft? Politicians were scared of all that passion, which is no longer around in present-day anti-war protests, because there is no draft.
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
So basically you're advocating violent revolution, which is the only way people without money get anything done.
Good for you!
Hey Kentucky! If you see your senior Senator and realize Mitch McConnell's cheating you out of your money to give more to the rich, punch him in the face. He will pay more attention to that message than a million snail-mails or a billion emails sent to his offices in DC or Kentucky.
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Putin Personally Directed Anti-Clinton Hacking
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/12/nbc-news-putin-personally-direc
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Russia's hacking goes further than previous reports have suggested:
Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.
Putin's objectives were multifaceted, a high-level intelligence source told NBC News. What began as a "vendetta" against Hillary Clinton morphed into an effort to show corruption in American politics and to "split off key American allies by creating the image that [other countries] couldn't depend on the U.S. to be a credible global leader anymore," the official said.
....The latest intelligence said to show Putin's involvement goes much further than the information the U.S. was relying on in October, when all 17 intelligence agencies signed onto a statement attributing the Democratic National Committee hack to Russia....Now the U.S has solid information tying Putin to the operation, the intelligence officials say. Their use of the term "high confidence" implies that the intelligence is nearly incontrovertible.
This comes from William Arkin, Ken Dilanian, and Cynthia McFadden, who are all careful reporters.
Nobody had any idea that Donald Trump would run, let alone win the Republican nomination, when the hacking operation started. And even after Trump did win the nomination, nobody thought he had much of a chance to win. All of Putin's hacking would have been for nought if he hadn't had some help from James Comey and a rogue group of FBI agents in New York.
Putin got lucky. But that's the way intelligence operations work. You try a lot of stuff and hope that a fraction of it pans out. This probably seemed like a low-cost-low-probability exercise when it was first started, and ended up succeeding beyond anyone's wildest dreams.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Doesn't the timing of this story leave you just a little suspicious?
Isn't the building crescendo of hysteria ... just before the Inauguration, no less! ... a tad reminiscent of the Iraq WMD hysteria?
I'm going to point to an important part of the article
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Two senior officials with direct access to the information say new intelligence shows that Putin personally directed how hacked material from Democrats was leaked and otherwise used. The intelligence came from diplomatic sources and spies working for U.S. allies, the officials said.
Wow! TWO sources??? All two???
What if I were to say that the spies and diplomats were from Ukraine? Would that make any difference?
Yanno, the overarching intelligence outfit that rides herd on the CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA etc has already decided not to endorse the CIA view. This sounds like two CIA staffers gone rogue. I'm going to copy this to the FAKE NEWS thread, because as are as I can tell, it's FAKE NEWS until demonstrated otherwise.
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"Pity would be no more,
If we did not MAKE men poor"- William Blake
"If I could write inflammatory commentary to scorch the eye brows and lashes off Trump, Signym or 1kiki, I would.- SECOND"
Hillary knew all about the Electoral College when she ran for office. All of this after-the-fact bitching is still just an attempt to rewrite history. I guess you're all still in various stages of grief, including anger, denial, and bargaining, all rol
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Quote:Are you and Trump going to spend his term of office whitewashing everything Russia does in order to forestall the release of damaging, stolen GOP documents by Russia? Is Trump answerable to the American people, or a foreign government that does not have the United States’ best interests at heart? Or are you claiming that only the Dems had their email stolen because the GOP's security was far superior?
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Doesn't the timing of this story leave you just a little suspicious?
Isn't the building crescendo of hysteria ... just before the Inauguration, no less! ... a tad reminiscent of the Iraq WMD hysteria?
. . . it's FAKE NEWS until demonstrated otherwise.
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So you hail a cab in Manhattan to go to LaGuardia and the cabdriver heads for the Lincoln Tunnel and you say, “La-Guardia, LaGuardia!, LaGuardia!!,” and he says, “Yeah, yeah, yeah,” and you’re in New Jersey, and you yell at him to stop and he doesn’t, he points north and says, “Bridge!” and now you’re on I-87 passing through Poughkeepsie — this is pretty much where we are with Trump Inc. so far. The populist revolt turns into a corporate boardroom and the disaffected Democrats who voted for it are not going to catch that plane to Florida after all. They will be spending four years on cousin Sid’s rollaway in Schenectady.
The big guy said a couple weeks ago that he was planning to “focus on running the country” and now we see what “focus” means in his case. He appointed a pollution defender to head the EPA and his secretary of state will be the Exxon exec, a business partner of the Russians, and now you have to wonder if our next Surgeon General will be an optometrist. And why not Billy Bush to head the Endowment for the Arts? You got a problem with that?
-- Garrison Keillor
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