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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 11:25 AM

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Saturday, December 10, 2016 1:50 AM Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.today.com/parents/one-moms-challenge-buy-only-made-usa-one-
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One mom's challenge: Buy only "Made in USA" for one week

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Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:49 PM Originally posted by second:
You best look at the ACE Hardware labels for Chinese goods.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:25 AM Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.today.com/parents/one-moms-challenge-buy-only-made-usa-one-
week-857929
One mom's challenge: Buy only "Made in USA" for one week






How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 12:04 PM

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If you aren't aware, Texans don't have much concern for the well-being of Yankees or Californians ...
Are you speaking for yourself? Assuming you are a Texan as you claim, of course.




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:41 PM

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If you aren't aware, Texans don't have much concern for the well-being of Yankees or Californians ...
Are you speaking for yourself? Assuming you are a Texan as you claim, of course.

Does it disturb 1kiki's view of Americans that Texans don't feel that Trump voters in West Virginians are family? And Texans won't willing pay more to create jobs for people they never met in states that are far away? That is what Trump is promising: to create jobs in rundown states at the expense of people in states that are booming.

I actually saw people on TV in a coal-mining town that voted 80% for Trump say that they are forgotten by the rest of the country. I'd tell them you can't forget somebody you never knew. Maybe the Trump voter meant "ignored"?

The same Trump people from that small, rundown coal town also said that because coal built America the rest of Americans owes W Virginians for all the coal they once-upon-time dug from the ground. Those Trump voters, even though they think Texas owes them still more, were already paid and they don't deserve to be paid again and again for coal that was burned years ago. But Trump voters can't see it the way it is.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:43 PM

Much would be made of blue-collar voters in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan who’d pulled the lever for Obama in 2008 and 2012 and then for Trump in 2016. Surely these voters disproved racism as an explanatory force. It’s still not clear how many individual voters actually flipped. But the underlying presumption—that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama could be swapped in for each other—exhibited a problem. Clinton was a candidate who’d won one competitive political race in her life, whose political instincts were questioned by her own advisers, who took more than half a million dollars in speaking fees from an investment bank because it was “what they offered,” who proposed to bring back to the White House a former president dogged by allegations of rape and sexual harassment. Obama was a candidate who’d become only the third black senator in the modern era; who’d twice been elected president, each time flipping red and purple states; who’d run one of the most scandal-free administrations in recent memory. Imagine an African American facsimile of Hillary Clinton: She would never be the nominee of a major political party and likely would not be in national politics at all.

Pointing to citizens who voted for both Obama and Trump does not disprove racism; it evinces it. To secure the White House, Obama needed to be a Harvard-trained lawyer with a decade of political experience and an incredible gift for speaking to cross sections of the country; Donald Trump needed only money and white bluster.

www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/01/my-president-was-black/50
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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:53 PM

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Originally posted by second:
If you aren't aware, Texans don't have much concern for the well-being of Yankees or Californians ...

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Are you speaking for yourself? Assuming you are a Texan as you claim, of course.

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Does it disturb 1kiki's view of Americans that Texans don't feel that Trump voters in West Virginians are family?
Can you answer the question?




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 5:55 PM

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Saturday, December 10, 2016 1:50 AM Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.today.com/parents/one-moms-challenge-buy-only-made-usa-one-
week-857929
One mom's challenge: Buy only "Made in USA" for one week

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Tuesday, December 13, 2016 12:49 PM Originally posted by second:
You best look at the ACE Hardware labels for Chinese goods.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 1:25 AM Originally posted by 1kiki:
http://www.today.com/parents/one-moms-challenge-buy-only-made-usa-one-
week-857929
One mom's challenge: Buy only "Made in USA" for one week



Can you address the topic?




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 6:04 PM

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Can you answer the question?

How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?
Your questions aren't interesting to me, except the last one about how the democrats fucked up. I have a partial answer from "The Most Epic Ratfucking Operation in History".
www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/12/russia-ran-most-epic-ratfucking
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The basic story here is simple: the Russians hacked, the media gave the revelations big play, and Republicans gleefully made use of the Russian agitprop. Altogether, the Russians released hacked documents from four different sources:

DNC
DCCC
The Clinton Foundation
John Podesta

But nothing was ever released from any Republican sources—despite the fact that, according to the New York Times, the Russians had hacked the RNC and possibly other Republican accounts as well. If I had to guess, I'd say there's a good chance they hacked a few people at the Trump Organization too. So here's where we are:

The Russians ran a very sophisticated operation designed to hack into both US government servers and the servers of US political organizations.

They released only hacked documents from Democratic organizations. Republicans were left alone.

The intelligence community told high-ranking leaders of both parties what was going on, but Republicans flatly opposed any public acknowledgment of what was happening. I add that Trump is the LOUDEST denier that Russia was involved.

Republicans cheerfully made use of all the hacked material, even though they knew exactly where it came from.

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 6:09 PM

As I've claimed all along, after democrats lose the presidency, the country's ability to retain much of the agenda put in place over the decades will depend on senate democrats being the 'party of no'. How much do you trust senate democrats to take up the role?



http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/14/opinion/buck-up-democrats-and-fight-
like-republicans.html


Buck Up, Democrats, and Fight Like Republicans

On Monday, members of the Electoral College will vote in Donald J. Trump as president. Though he lost the election by nearly three million votes and almost daily generates headlines about new scandals, the Democratic Party is doing little to stop him. If you’ve been asking yourself “Where are the Democrats?” you’re not alone.

Since the election, top Democrats have been almost absent on the national stage. Rather, they have been involved largely in internecine warfare about how much to work with Mr. Trump. The Hillary Clinton campaign, trying to encourage a peaceful transition, has gone almost completely dark, with her most notable appearances coming in selfies with strangers. Nobody deserves downtime more than Mrs. Clinton, but while she is decompressing, the country is moving toward its biggest electoral mistake in history.

There’s no shortage of legal theories that could challenge Mr. Trump’s anointment, but they come from outsiders rather than the Democratic Party. Impassioned citizens have been pleading with electors to vote against Mr. Trump; law professors have argued that winner-take-all laws for electoral votes are unconstitutional; a small group, the Hamilton Electors, is attempting to free electors to vote their consciences; and a new theory has arisen that there is legal precedent for courts to give the election to Mrs. Clinton based on Russian interference. All of these efforts, along with the grass-roots protests, boycotts and petitions, have been happening without the Democratic Party. The most we’ve seen is a response to the C.I.A. revelations, but only with Republicans onboard to give Democrats bipartisan cover.

Take the recount efforts in Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin. While the Democratic Party relitigates grudges in the press, Jill Stein, the Green Party candidate who received about 64 million fewer votes than Mrs. Clinton, has led the effort. The Democrats have grudgingly participated from the sidelines, but only because public perception forced them to. This effort has proved feeble, with a Pennsylvania judge denying the request because it was “later than last minute.”

Fast forward to 2016, and the Democrats ... are leaving the fight to academics and local organizers who seem more horrified by a Trump presidency than Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and the Democratic Party. The Republicans in 2000 threw everything they could muster against the wall to see if it stuck, with no concern about potential blowback; the Democrats in 2016 are apparently too worried about being called sore losers. Instead of weathering the criticism that comes with fighting an uphill, yet historically important battle, the party is still trying to magic up a plan.




This aligns with my observation to date.

Are democrats spineless? They could be. Or tptb have told top democrats to stand down, and democrats - dutifully - are obeying the people they truly represent.






How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 6:17 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Can you answer the question?

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Your questions aren't interesting to me, except the last one about how the democrats fucked up. I have a partial answer from "The Most Epic Ratfucking Operation in History".

Is that how democrats lost congress, and 33 out of all 50 governorships, state senates and state houses, mostly back in 2010? Is that how democrats lost voter-identification since 1982? Did democrats end up like this due to a giant Russian ratfucking operation being run since 1982?




How did your beloved 'democratic' party fuck up so badly?

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Wednesday, December 14, 2016 6:42 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:

Are democrats spineless? They could be. Or tptb have told top democrats to stand down, and democrats - dutifully - are obeying the people they truly represent.

The Democrats believe too strongly that the people have spoken. It is such a passive way to look at politics. Republicans believe that people can be bent to will of the GOP, if the party puts enough force into the effort. It is a very energetic way to look at voting and the Democratic Party can't go there, to the place where the GOP will go in every election. It is a life-and-death struggle for the GOP, while the Democrats see it as some kind of televised tennis match at Wimbledon. That needs an example:

The Democrats have a chance of preventing Trump from winning by using all the Democratic Electoral College electors to vote for Romney. If 37 Republican electors go along, then Republicans win the White House, except it isn't Trump. (Trump in 2016 did poorly compared to Romney in 2012.) Hillary won't do it because it is not sporting, it feels like cheating, it doesn't follow the will of the people. Hillary would have some weak excuse, except she hasn't even acknowledged the idea exists. The GOP would do it in a second if the tables were turned.
www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrats-can-use-the-electoral-colleg
e-to-stop-trump-but-not-how-you-think/2016/12/05/c69bb24e-ba86-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html

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