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Worst Endings You Can Think Of For Serenity?

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:23 PM

What is the worst ending you can think of for the end of the Serenity film?

The whole crew dies and Joss anouncess a TV spin-off called Book - The Abby Years. The show is put on Fox and cancelled after 5 episodes (3 of which are shown in the dead of night).

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Mal's on the ground, about to get speared by Crow. A shot rings out. Crow is kneecapped.

Mal: Nice shot.

Jayne: I was aiming for his head.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:39 PM

Filming has completed when Universal gets jittery and brings in Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay to retool it for a more mass market appeal.

SergeantX

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
Filming has completed when Universal gets jittery and brings in Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay to retool it for a more mass market appeal.



[puts fingers in ears]LalalalalalalalaIcan'thearyoulalalalalalala

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
Filming has completed when Universal gets jittery and brings in Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay to retool it for a more mass market appeal.

SergeantX





........................ that's just wrong....... even as a joke........... dear GOD, can you imagine?

There'd be jets flying overhead in every shot, the American flag waving in the background in every close-up....

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:04 PM


After Mal and crew save the day, the movie ends with a musical number and the crew dances around and gives each other high-fives to the song "We're Not Gonna Take It" by Twisted Sister.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:14 PM

The worst ending? Well, if Bruckheimer and Bay get involved (and they will, unless Joss unleashes Angel and Buffy on them, maybe with a little help from SpiderMan), Serenity will end like this: Shepherd Book will struggle to his feet, just to prove that it can be done. Then the entire crew will go on a suicide mission to bomb the Alliance capital, but after it's done, they'll crash in the wilderness of Whitefall, chased by Alliance troops. Wash will bravely throw himself on a grenade, saving Mal's life. Then a bunch of Reavers will show up and escort them to safety, just in time to arrive back at Serenity Valley to inform Zoe that Wash is dead. Then we'll see Mal and Inara together, with Mal Jr., on a farm somewhere, learning to fly. Then cue a bad Faith Hill song. . .yeah, that's definetely how it will end if Blue Sun. . oh excuse me, Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay, get involved.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:37 PM

The film is wrapped and Joss shows it to Universal. They love it but think it needs a bit more star power. So they decide to replace the whole cast.

Arnold Schwarzenegger is Captain Malcolm 'Mal' Reynolds
Whoopi Goldberg is Zoe Warren
Cameron Diaz is Inara Serra
Adam Sandler is 'Wash' Warren
Jackie Chan is Jayne Cobb
Jennifer Aniston is Kaywinnit Lee 'Kaylee' Frye
Leonardo DiCaprio is Simon Tam
Haley Joel Osment is River Tam
Anthony Hopkins is Shepherd Book
and Mr. T as the voice of Serenity

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Mal's on the ground, about to get speared by Crow. A shot rings out. Crow is kneecapped.

Mal: Nice shot.

Jayne: I was aiming for his head.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 6:45 PM

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Haley Joel Osment is River Tam




That's really funny. I could just imagine some studio doing that.

They'd be horrific but I could actually imagine that cast.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 7:36 PM

Worst ending? How about this/

Mal and Inara get hitched, in a double ceremony with Simon and Kaylee, Book is the Minister. At the reception, Zoe announces she is pregnant, and River and Jayne announce their engagement.

Patience is a guest at the wedding, and she and Book lock eyes across the crowded room. It turns out she is the reason he went into the Abbey. They were in love years before, but she left him after discovering she was pregnant by another man. She just disappeared, never explained to Book.

Wash discovers that he has a long lost half-sister, and she arrives at the Reception. It's none other than YoSaffBridge.

Meanwhile, Patience tells Book that his sister, whom he hasn't seen for about thirty years. had an illegitimate daughter. She was adopted by some ranch folk.

Book steps in to stop a fight between YoSaffBridge and Patience. YoSaffBridge recognised the mother she had only seen in photographs, and attacked her mother for abandoning her.

Book is badly gashed and needs a transfusion but he is a rare blood type. Turns out Zoe is the same rare blood type. Coincidence?

In the last ten minutes of the film, all is resolved and everyone is happy. YoSaffBridge and Patience are reconciled, Book and Zoe realise they are uncle and niece.

They all realise the value of family

How sweet.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:52 PM

You know what's REALLY bad? Even if any of the above were the movie, I'd still go see it.

How pathtetic is that??

Mal-licious

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 9:14 PM

How about:

It's revealed that the leader of the Alliance is actually Book, who then challenges Mal to a sword duel to the death. After minutes of fighting, Book cuts off Mal's hand and...

Book: No, Mal. I am your Father.

Mal: NOOOOOOOO!

Fades to reveal:
"Conclusion to follow in Episode II: Return of the Tightpants. Written and directed by George Lucas. Brought to you by FOX."

Just thinking about that one makes me nauseous.
I think I'm gonna have nightmares..

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:21 PM

The whole crew except for River die. River finds a subspace/temporal distortion or some such and plows serenity into it going back in time just far enough to bring the crew back and change history.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 10:57 PM


Stizo:

Is that as in 'mestizo'? ¿Que pasa, hombre? Okay, here's a shot at your JotD: "The Reaver gets 'Fed' up and leaves the bar wearing a new Shepherd-skin coat." 'Just keep wokkin', Preacher Man'...

Sounds like you'll be first in line to see "Star Wars III: The Sudden But Inevitable Betrayal". I've got a fantasy in which the poster for the flick portrays limp-noodle, 6'1" Hayden Christensen draped in the original Darth costume worn by former weight-lifting champion and 6'7" David Prowse. Hilarious. Maybe the Dark Side makes you 6" taller and deepens the voice two octaves. And then they could end the movie by having Darth Hayden board Leia's diplomatic shuttle in a reprise from Ep IV (25 years ago), and strangle a midget by holding him suspended in the air by the throat.

Y'know, I used to think George Lucas was a genius; but then he started believing his own press. Now, when he does 'interviews' with Leonard Schmaltzin on those increasingly mangled Star Wars re-releases, he has this God-like quality to his speech and facial expressions. One is distinctly reminded of Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Babs Streisand and every other celebrity that falls prey to this horrifying disease.

Please, Joss, if you're out there somewhere, listening: Don't let this happen to you, when Firefly: Serenity hits big. Keep your head.


Respectfully,

zoid
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Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:20 PM

Absolute worst possible ending...

You watch from the bridge of Alliance cruiser as Serenity is destroyed...one of the shuttles launches at the last second...but is consumed by the explosion. The camera pulls back and someone off screen asks the Alliance Captain "Any survivors"? He responds "None". As the camera pans right you see two Blue Hands Alliance "suits" standing by the exit. "What a shame" one says, and they both turn to leave the bridge. As they leave you see an small pin on one of their lapels. It says "FOX"...

He he...sorry, had an evil moment!


Burn the land, boil the sea...

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by britchick:
Worst ending? How about this/

Mal and Inara get hitched, in a double ceremony with Simon and Kaylee, Book is the Minister. At the reception, Zoe announces she is pregnant, and River and Jayne announce their engagement.

Patience is a guest at the wedding, and she and Book lock eyes across the crowded room. It turns out she is the reason he went into the Abbey. They were in love years before, but she left him after discovering she was pregnant by another man. She just disappeared, never explained to Book.

Wash discovers that he has a long lost half-sister, and she arrives at the Reception. It's none other than YoSaffBridge.

Meanwhile, Patience tells Book that his sister, whom he hasn't seen for about thirty years. had an illegitimate daughter. She was adopted by some ranch folk.

Book steps in to stop a fight between YoSaffBridge and Patience. YoSaffBridge recognised the mother she had only seen in photographs, and attacked her mother for abandoning her.

Book is badly gashed and needs a transfusion but he is a rare blood type. Turns out Zoe is the same rare blood type. Coincidence?

In the last ten minutes of the film, all is resolved and everyone is happy. YoSaffBridge and Patience are reconciled, Book and Zoe realise they are uncle and niece.

They all realise the value of family

How sweet.

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
The whole crew except for River die. River finds a subspace/temporal distortion or some such and plows serenity into it going back in time just far enough to bring the crew back and change history.

LOL, hey, don't be stealing from Star Trek!

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Saturday, May 15, 2004 11:47 PM

don't this could be a worse ending compared to those above me but here goes:

Mal has a life changing experience and decides to open a fast food chain on a small planet where the rest of the crew work for the rest of their happy lives flipping burgers in the arse end of nowhere.

still working on the life changing experience..maybe he eats haggis..

i dunno it changed my life

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 2:11 AM

Seriouly but if Kaylee and Simon get together I will have to stop watching it.

The whole point of firefly is to make sure they are never alone together. Where is the fun if it does work out!

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 2:11 AM

Seriouly but if Kaylee and Simon get together I will have to stop watching it.

The whole point of firefly is to make sure they are never alone together. Where is the fun if it does work out!

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:27 AM

fox stops the entire production saying the rights still belong to them

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:33 AM

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Originally posted by sanmi:
fox stops the entire production saying the rights still belong to them





this one got me.

I'll be in my bunk.

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 3:36 AM

Succatash runs over to the deflated Gambit and pulls out a tire pump. He sticks the needle into Gambit and after a few minutes of furious pumping Gambit is okay. Gambit hands Tash a 20 dollar bill.

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:10 AM

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Succatash wrote:
Saturday, May 15, 2004 13:47
Quote:

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
The whole crew except for River die. River finds a subspace/temporal distortion or some such and plows serenity into it going back in time just far enough to bring the crew back and change history.
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LOL, hey, don't be stealing from Star Trek!



Hehe, you noticed the slight trekist flair.

Maybe not so slight. Seems just about every episode of trek had some sort of subspace or temporal distortion didnt it :)







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Sunday, May 16, 2004 6:46 PM

There are far too many bad endings I can think of, mainly cuz I'm a pessimist. Here are my top two for now...

1. Mal stands over Jayne's dead body and says "Yep." (beat) "That was an interesting day...."

2. The End.

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 7:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Calhoun:
Quote:

Succatash wrote:
Saturday, May 15, 2004 13:47
Quote:

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Originally posted by Calhoun:
The whole crew except for River die. River finds a subspace/temporal distortion or some such and plows serenity into it going back in time just far enough to bring the crew back and change history.
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LOL, hey, don't be stealing from Star Trek!



Hehe, you noticed the slight trekist flair.

Maybe not so slight. Seems just about every episode of trek had some sort of subspace or temporal distortion didnt it :)












Weren't Federation ships the worst made ever. Enterprise flagship of the Federation! And yet every backwater race could knock out their engines and shields with one gorram shot! Rather fly on Serenity. Had no shields and they didn't kill the engine when they were shooting at them (The Message).

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You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die. Huh? Look at that chiseled jaw."

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 7:28 PM

At the end of Serenity a FOX exec comes on and explains everything that was going to happen in the TV show leaving Joss with nothing to work with to bring it back onto television.

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"We're not gonna die. We can't die, Bendis.
You know why? Because we are so very pretty. We are just too pretty for God to let us die. Huh? Look at that chiseled jaw."

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 7:42 PM

Mal and the crew of Serenity spend the whole film waging a war against The Alliance. It's a war of epic proportions and makes the fights in Return of the King look like a pre-school play. Near the end Mal stands over the dead body of the leader of The Alliance. In the background you see Zoe and Wash hugging and smiling (Zoe is holding two new born babies). Simon and Kaylee kiss and Simon gets on one kness and proposess. During the war River bumped her head and now she is no longer crazy. Book becomes head of the church and also helps Mal find his faith. Inara walks up to Mal and kisses him. Mal stops the kiss but then pulls her back. Jayne is also seen having sex with 5 sexy ladies in the background. Everything is perfect when suddenly we hear voices.

Voice: Malcolm get of your ass! We got customers need serving.

Mal is sleeping in a chair in a small room. He wakes up with a startle. We see he is wearing a McDonald's uniform complete with a McDonald's cap. He stands up quickly.

Mal: Sorry sir. Won't happen again.

We pan round to see Jayne wearing a fine suit. He is wearing a badge which says "Manager Jayne Cobb".

Jayne: It better not of I'll sling you back out on the dirty street you came from.

Mal: Sorry sir.

Mal gets up and runs to the counter in the front. When he gets there we see Kaylee wearing a similer uniform.

Mal: Hey Kaylee

She just stares at him and gives him that disgusted look.

Kaylee: Where you been loser? I had to cover for you jackass.

Mal: Well, I---

Kaylee: Whatever dumbass. I'm off with my boyfriend.

She turns and walks out the resturant. Outside we see Simon head to toe in leather near a Motorcycle. Kaylee jumps on the back and they drive off. Inara then walks in with Zoe and Wash. They are all dresses in casual clothes. Wash with his arm around Zoe. Mal gets all tongue tied when Inara walks up to the counter.

Inara: Two happy meals and a Big Mac. Coke for all of them.

Mal: Erm...Hey....Ah....What----

Inara: Could you hurry up please?

Mal looks slightly hurt as he runs off to get the order. Just as he is doing it he notices a girl spraying graffiti on the wall outside. It's River with a group of friends. They all laugh as she writes "Old Men Suck". She then runs off as Book yells out at them from a window above waving his walking stick around. It turns out that the whole Firefly universe was the dream of a pathetic 30 something year old virgin that still lives with his mum.

THE END

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Mal's on the ground, about to get speared by Crow. A shot rings out. Crow is kneecapped.

Mal: Nice shot.

Jayne: I was aiming for his head.

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Sunday, May 16, 2004 7:44 PM

worst endding

they all turn into clowns coz thats scary bahh im scared thinking of it im gonna go hide under my bed where there are no clowns oh even worse the clowns then get eatten by giant spiders ok im going now hide under bed

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Monday, May 17, 2004 12:37 AM

If after the closing credits, they don't have a short funny clip

"That's the buffet table....."

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Monday, May 17, 2004 1:56 AM

The crew fights an awesome battle against the Blue Sun, which is really the Alliance. In the end, they win and there is a large battle. As Mal stares at the ruins of the Alliance, a soft song strikes up. We leave Mal and go to....

Zoe and Wash with tons of little children. They're outside a city and Wash is teaching them to fly while a smiling Zoe looks on.

Book, now in a church and saying a Mass to a rather large group of people on some border planet.

Jayne, is in a bar playing darts. He gets a call on his com and walks out to his brand new ship. It's time to go to work.

Kaylee and Simon, walking hand in hand, both wearing matching wedding bands. They walk into a small town. Simon with his bag and Kaylee with her tool belt.

River, who magically got sane again and who is no longer disturbed by what happened, on a stage dancing to a ballet.

Finally, Mal comes walking up to his farm house on Shadow. Inara comes from the house, a hand on her large belly and three older kids following her. Mal picks one up, kisses Inara and they head inside, but not before Mal can say... "It's been a good day."

The credits roll with that stupid soft song.



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Two by two. Hands of blue.-River Tam

I support River and Jayne!
I support Zoe and Wash!
I support Simon and Kaylee!
I support Mal and Inara!

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Monday, May 17, 2004 2:44 PM

Simon and Kaylee, finally having gotten over their foolish pride have become a couple. They're sitting together in a boat when suddenly, an alien ship appears and fires an energy weapon at them. They crystallize, then shatter.

THE END



?????

"You didn't have to wound that man."
"Yeah, I know. It was just funny."

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Monday, May 17, 2004 2:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
Filming has completed when Universal gets jittery and brings in Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay to retool it for a more mass market appeal.

SergeantX



Dear God man! That is not even funny!

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Monday, May 17, 2004 3:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Succatash:

After Mal and crew save the day, the movie ends with a musical number and the crew dances around and gives each other high-fives to the song "We're Not Gonna Take It" by Twisted Sister.



As creepifying as that sounds, it might be hi-larious. That seem right to you?

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."

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Monday, May 17, 2004 3:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by britchick:
Worst ending? How about this/

Mal and Inara get hitched, in a double ceremony with Simon and Kaylee, Book is the Minister. At the reception, Zoe announces she is pregnant, and River and Jayne announce their engagement.

Patience is a guest at the wedding, and she and Book lock eyes across the crowded room. It turns out she is the reason he went into the Abbey. They were in love years before, but she left him after discovering she was pregnant by another man. She just disappeared, never explained to Book.

Wash discovers that he has a long lost half-sister, and she arrives at the Reception. It's none other than YoSaffBridge.

Meanwhile, Patience tells Book that his sister, whom he hasn't seen for about thirty years. had an illegitimate daughter. She was adopted by some ranch folk.

Book steps in to stop a fight between YoSaffBridge and Patience. YoSaffBridge recognised the mother she had only seen in photographs, and attacked her mother for abandoning her.

Book is badly gashed and needs a transfusion but he is a rare blood type. Turns out Zoe is the same rare blood type. Coincidence?

In the last ten minutes of the film, all is resolved and everyone is happy. YoSaffBridge and Patience are reconciled, Book and Zoe realise they are uncle and niece.



That's the Charles Dickens version, except there needs to be a lawyer in the story name Mr. Bimblybrook, who has twenty children who constantly fall down and get dirty.

**sigh** And that joke will only make sense to Dickens fans...



"Dear diary, today I was pompous and my sister was crazy."

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Monday, May 17, 2004 4:26 PM

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HELL'S KITTEN
Some people juggle geese. Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 19:46






There are far too many bad endings I can think of, mainly cuz I'm a pessimist. Here are my top two for now...

1. Mal stands over Jayne's dead body and says "Yep." (beat) "That was an interesting day...."

2. The End



You know, that actually ain't half bad as a plot device... New mercenary needed of course (Jayne's twin brother, Suzy, perhaps), but I'd love to see the story of how Jayne got on the wrong side of Mal and then lost the fight.

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"Damn it Mal... I forgot my line!"

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Monday, May 17, 2004 6:20 PM

That would be a good start for an ep. -- you know, one of the many beginnings where the rest of the show is a flashback? Some kinda setup where Jayne turns out to still be alive...'cause you can't kill the Hero of Canton.

"You didn't have to wound that man."
"Yeah, I know. It was just funny."

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Monday, May 17, 2004 6:46 PM

The crew winds up fighting the Alliance and Blue hands with some rememant Browncoats, they come close but just get whooped hard. They have to run but are low on ammo, food and fuel.

Wash dodges the last Alliance cruiser with a hard burn but burns up the last of their fuel so they're moving but on the drift. The crew is worried but Wash thinks he has an idea even though they're way off the map, he got a good reading on a planet that isn't on any charts and thinks his trajectory was good enough, and that there's just enough fuel in the reserve tanks to land.

After some tense interactions between the crew a planet hoves into view, green and blue like Earth that Was. The crew gets even more excited when Wash tells them that he's picked up what he thinks are very low frequency radio transmitions on the planet.

Mal looks at Book and asks him if it's possible that Blue Sun lied to get everyone off Earth that Was and that the place could still exist. Book nods sagely tells him a myth, a secret text from the monestary that says that is indeed a possibility, that Earth didn't die.

The crew hears the covesation and gets excited, they made it to Earth that Was and it's Earth that Is!

Wash brings them down through the atmosphere safely and then comes running back to the cargo bay where the rest of the crew is gathered. He's been monitoring the radio transmissions more closely since they could be picked up better on the way down and discovered they're English!

A ripple of excitement goes through them all as they open the hatch and lower the ramp. From a camera pan we can see there are people waiting for them, or at least we see legs outside. Then a closeup as the crew comes down the ramp, all of them wearing an amazed expression.

Realization hits that the "people" are in fact aliens! Jayne, Zoe and Mal all draw their guns in one motion and fire, as they all make clicking sounds they remember they're empty...

"Hello dere! Mes'sa Dar-Dar Jinks and tees are mes'sas peeps! Welcomes to ours planet homies!"

THE END

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increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

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Monday, May 17, 2004 7:29 PM

Quote:


Originally posted by Gunhand:
The crew winds up fighting the Alliance and Blue hands with some rememant Browncoats, they come close but just get whooped hard. They have to run but are low on ammo, food and fuel.

Wash dodges the last Alliance cruiser with a hard burn but burns up the last of their fuel so they're moving but on the drift. The crew is worried but Wash thinks he has an idea even though they're way off the map, he got a good reading on a planet that isn't on any charts and thinks his trajectory was good enough, and that there's just enough fuel in the reserve tanks to land.

After some tense interactions between the crew a planet hoves into view, green and blue like Earth that Was. The crew gets even more excited when Wash tells them that he's picked up what he thinks are very low frequency radio transmitions on the planet.

Mal looks at Book and asks him if it's possible that Blue Sun lied to get everyone off Earth that Was and that the place could still exist. Book nods sagely tells him a myth, a secret text from the monestary that says that is indeed a possibility, that Earth didn't die.

The crew hears the covesation and gets excited, they made it to Earth that Was and it's Earth that Is!

Wash brings them down through the atmosphere safely and then comes running back to the cargo bay where the rest of the crew is gathered. He's been monitoring the radio transmissions more closely since they could be picked up better on the way down and discovered they're English!

A ripple of excitement goes through them all as they open the hatch and lower the ramp. From a camera pan we can see there are people waiting for them, or at least we see legs outside. Then a closeup as the crew comes down the ramp, all of them wearing an amazed expression.

Realization hits that the "people" are in fact aliens! Jayne, Zoe and Mal all draw their guns in one motion and fire, as they all make clicking sounds they remember they're empty...

"Hello dere! Mes'sa Dar-Dar Jinks and tees are mes'sas peeps! Welcomes to ours planet homies!"

THE END

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the Man, how's about we move away from this
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increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

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YEEEAAAAARRRRGHHHHHHHHH!!!

Gunhand go wash your mouth! That's a horrible thing to say! I'll have nightmares for weeks now, awful!

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Monday, May 17, 2004 7:34 PM

On it. I'm a bad bad man.



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Monday, May 17, 2004 8:58 PM

Hey Zoid:
Actually i never thought of the "Mestizo" thing untill you said somthing (it's been awhile since high school spanish); It's just a nickname derived from my initials (s.t.z).

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Y'know, I used to think George Lucas was a genius; but then he started believing his own press. Now, when he does 'interviews' with Leonard Schmaltzin on those increasingly mangled Star Wars re-releases, he has this God-like quality to his speech and facial expressions. One is distinctly reminded of Michael Jackson, Elvis Presley, Babs Streisand and every other celebrity that falls prey to this horrifying disease.



But I totally gotta agree with your take on Lucas. He's really starting to piss me off.

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Monday, May 17, 2004 9:03 PM

I watched Star Wars in a drive-in when I was a pup the day it came out. Loved Empire Strikes Back and dealt with the muppethell that was Return of the Jedi.

Then he went and did the Special Editions.

Then he went and did the Prequels.

So even though he helped define my childhood, I have to be of the opinion he is on a personal quest to mind all my happy memories and turn them to ash.

In short Mr. Lucas has become, to my mind...a hack.

I really need to start working on 'Verse Wars some more...

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Monday, May 17, 2004 9:19 PM

Congratulations Gunhand,
You just hit the bullseye dead on.
Lucas is out to kill what good memories we have left.

All Jedi had was a bunch of muppets
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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:25 AM

Stizo:

Sorry about the name thing, I just try guessing what some of the more arcane names might mean, especially if they seem suggestive of something. zoid means nothing either, it's just one I've been using since 1995. No offense intended, just playing around...

As I'm sitting here writing, dissing George Lucas for becoming an egomaniac or at least delusional of his own grandeur, I'm actually watching SWII:AotC on HBO Family. While I stick with my original assertion that the entire franchise has been diminished, mostly by this second prequel trilogy, I've also got to say that Ewan MacGregor is damn fine actor. In the space of like 5 minutes we go from Obi-Wan's very subtle and physically nuanced interrogation of Jango Fett to Hayden Christiansen's whiny "I'm haunted by the kiss that you should never have given me." This guy's not only never gonna pick Amidala's lock, but is there anyone who believes he's gonna turn into Darth-freakin'-Vader?!?

Still, gotta give MacGregor props. I've never seen him do badly, and he takes some serious risks in terms of roles and subject matter.


Respectfully,

zoid
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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 12:59 AM

Mal, Zoe, Jayne, Book and Wash infultrate a huge aliance cruser and single-handedly defeat over 50,000 aliance thugs to save River after she was re-captured.

They get on Serenity and fly away just before the entire aliance cruser explodes for no apparent reason.

Simon is glad to see river and finds that the whole experience has unlocked some hidden memories and she is suddenly all better.

Mal goes down to his bunk to find Inara waiting for him. She kisses him but he suddenly falls to the ground, dead or asleep. Inara has been a spy for the aliance all along and is about to wave the Aliance to tell them she has the fugitives, when Jayne shows up and stops her.

Why Jayne didn't fall for her 'femine wiles' is never explained.

They push Inara out of the airlock, revive Mal, and the credets begen rolling on Simon kissing kaylee and Zoe anouncing her pregnancy.

And they all lived happly ever after.

Except Inara.



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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:03 AM

I agree Zoid, Ewan MacGregor is definately a very fine actor and I've thought that for quite a while.

That's part of the problem his talent is wasted on these scripts. He and Liam Neeson need to slap the crap out of their agents methinks. At least Liam had the good sense to demand his character died in the first one.

But MacGregor's definately the highpoint of the prequels for me so far. The thing that struck me is how much he sounded and moved like Sir Alec Guiness. He had to have studied him as Obi Wan for quite a while because not just his voice but his infliction are spot on.

And honestly his perfomance is the only good thing I can say about the whole Prequel mess. Hell I thought the special effects lacked the...grace perhaps? of the originals. I'm not sure the word but even though the special effects are much more technically advanced than the old ones they just scream "HEY LOOK! CGI HERE!!" to me and it distracts me from what's happening. Then again that may be a good thing...

Hell the effects in Firefly integrate seamlessly into the story while those in the Prequels distract and take away from the story. And there ain't that much to take away from there in my opinion.



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Tuesday, May 18, 2004 1:41 AM

Someone has already spoken my worst nightmare re: Serenity-- Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay. The two-man cinematic wreaking crew. Bruckheimer's not bad as a producer, if he has a strong director to tell him where to stick it (e.g. Ridley Scott). Bay, on the other hand, is a total waste of space. Together they create some sort of weird, evil cinematic synergy that takes good concepts and turns them into utter cow pukie.

And what truly, utterly gripes me is-- THEY'RE MAKING MONEY AT IT! Bags of it. Makes me wonder about the tolerance and taste of the American viewing public....

As for Lucas-- how could such a visionary go so badly wrong? It stopped caring about SW sometime ago-- except that I'm hoarding my tapes of the first three films (Episodes 4-6, for those who insist on numerating them in sequence). Maybe there is such a thing as too much fame....

Oh, bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:35 PM

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Originally posted by dtt:
Simon and Kaylee, finally having gotten over their foolish pride have become a couple. They're sitting together in a boat when suddenly, an alien ship appears and fires an energy weapon at them. They crystallize, then shatter.

THE END



?????

"You didn't have to wound that man."
"Yeah, I know. It was just funny."


Well, DTT, no-one's done THAT before
I think the worst thing they could do would be to totally change the characters. For example:
Jayne becomes a really nice guy who wouldn't sell you out for the entire 'verse.
River is completely sane and does some kinda gorram Jedi crap to the 'Blue Hands' fellas.
Kaylee is 100% serious, never smiles, and harbours a grudge against everyone.
Simon becomes an action hero.
...You get the idea.
If this happened, the only reaction we could give would be:
Universal, you have been warned!

"BADGER: You think you're better than other people.
MAL: Just the ones I'm better than."

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Mantichorus:
Well, DTT, no-one's done THAT before



I was wonderin if anybody would get that.

"You didn't have to wound that man."
"Yeah, I know. It was just funny."

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 2:30 PM

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Originally posted by Stizo:
Congratulations Gunhand,
You just hit the bullseye dead on.
Lucas is out to kill what good memories we have left.

Methinks it's because Lucas wants to "end" the series; when he stops making money off it, everybody stops making money off it.

Which is sad 'cause the EU novels/comics/games are so much better than the movies.

NJO is what the prequels wish they were: dark, and gritty, and downright creepifying at times, and Jaina Solo (Han & Leia's daughter) does a far better Fall to the Dark Side than whiny little Annie Skywalker.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 2:49 PM

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Originally posted by weerwolf:
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Originally posted by Gunhand:


A ripple of excitement goes through them all as they open the hatch and lower the ramp. From a camera pan we can see there are people waiting for them, or at least we see legs outside. Then a closeup as the crew comes down the ramp, all of them wearing an amazed expression.

Realization hits that the "people" are in fact aliens! Jayne, Zoe and Mal all draw their guns in one motion and fire, as they all make clicking sounds they remember they're empty...

"Hello dere! Mes'sa Dar-Dar Jinks and tees are mes'sas peeps! Welcomes to ours planet homies!"

THE END

~-~-~-~-~-~-~-
"Oh hey, I got an idea. Instead of us hanging
around playing art critic till I get pinched by
the Man, how's about we move away from this
eerie-ass piece of work and get on with our
increasingly eerie-ass day, how's that?"

My eerie-ass website:
http://gunhandsfirefly.homestead.com/Index.html





YEEEAAAAARRRRGHHHHHHHHH!!!

Gunhand go wash your mouth! That's a horrible thing to say! I'll have nightmares for weeks now, awful!

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"Damn it Mal... I forgot my line!"




Thank you, Gunhand. You just reminded me that I have an appointment with all urban U.S. black folks everywhere to kill George Lucas. Be right back.... (except Eddie Murphy. He doesn't get to play)



There. That's better.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 2:55 PM

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HELL'S KITTEN
Some people juggle geese. Sunday, May 16, 2004 - 19:46






There are far too many bad endings I can think of, mainly cuz I'm a pessimist. Here are my top two for now...

1. Mal stands over Jayne's dead body and says "Yep." (beat) "That was an interesting day...."

2. The End



You know, that actually ain't half bad as a plot device... New mercenary needed of course (Jayne's twin brother, Suzy, perhaps), but I'd love to see the story of how Jayne got on the wrong side of Mal and then lost the fight.

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Jayne' got a brother named Suzy!!

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 3:13 PM

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Originally posted by Peace:

As for Lucas-- how could such a visionary go so badly wrong? It stopped caring about SW sometime ago-- except that I'm hoarding my tapes of the first three films (Episodes 4-6, for those who insist on numerating them in sequence). Maybe there is such a thing as too much fame....

Oh, bugger! Now I have to wait for someone to wake up!



It must be mind control...or early alzheimers.

And thank you. There are three SW films and only three...the first, second and third one. Prequel episodes? I don't know anything about any prequel episodes. They don't exist!! LALALALALALALA



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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:05 PM

The worst ending I can imagine...

The movie is everything we hoped for, it's epic, revealing, action packed, romances go the way we want, pasts are revealed (Mal, Inara, Book), the jokes bring tears to our eyes... Basicaly our wildest and most secret dream come true. The movie lasts for 3+ hours and at the end there's the fade to black and the sign that says: "for Joss, 1964-2004".

Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't coming back

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:15 PM

The worst possible ending--

The last scene passes before us, and the credits roll.

It doesn't get worse...

--Jefé The Hat

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 6:29 PM

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Originally posted by Chronos:
The worst ending I can imagine...

The movie is everything we hoped for, it's epic, revealing, action packed, romances go the way we want, pasts are revealed (Mal, Inara, Book), the jokes bring tears to our eyes... Basicaly our wildest and most secret dream come true. The movie lasts for 3+ hours and at the end there's the fade to black and the sign that says: "for Joss, 1964-2004".

Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't coming back



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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:15 PM

Jayne stands over Mal's dead body and says "Yep." (beat) "That was an interesting day...."

Of course, the Bruckheimer thing really did send chills down my spine.

But nothing was scarier than Chronos picture of a dedication to Joss. That really might have me hiding under my bed tonight. *shivers for real*

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 7:59 PM

Actually, I think the worst possible ending for the movie would be to wrap up all the loose ends from the show. After all, I think we all hope that the movie doesn't end this story....I know I'm hoping for more movies or a return to TV. (I'd actually love to see the show go to cable but that's a discussion for another thread.) So the movie can't reveal all the mysteries or wrap up all the plot lines.

So here are some things I would *not* like to see happen by the end of the movie:

-- River's full potential revealed. I'm sure the movie will focus on her a lot and that's fine, but I still think that the ongoing suspense of what she is *really* capable of after all the experimentation is too sweet to let go of(remember her telling Kaylee no power in the 'verse could stop her? -- what exactly does that mean?)

-- Jayne's final betrayal (or redemption for that matter). This is another on-going plot line that it would be a shame to derail. I mean, you get the feeling that if the show hadn't been cancelled that Jayne was going to find his conscience at some point, but then again, it could go the other way too and he could be the entire crew's undoing. Once you send him too far in either direction, good or bad, the character loses that suspense that makes him one of my favorite parts of the show. Think about it -- would it be as interesting if you really knew where everything stood with Jayne?

-- Too many romances. This is another thing I would rather see drag out *beyond* the movie. If they pair off Mal & Inara and Simon & Kaylee in the movie (don't think the Jayne & River pairing will make it outside the fan web sites ), then any future movies or TV will lose all that tension.

I know that they have to touch on all of these things in the movie because the romance, the Jayne factor, and River's state of mind are all such integral plot lines. But I guess I just worry that if *everything* is wrapped up in the movie that it will just feel like the whole story is over. And that, to me, would be the worst thing of all.

Off my soap box now....sorry for the small essay.




Morbid and creepifyin' I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like.

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:06 PM

I think it's safe to assume, if EVERY plot line left open after OiS was resolved, Joss would ALWAYS have new and interesting plots to explore...

--Jefé The Hat

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:29 PM

That is very true. I'm sure Joss would keep coming up with good stuff. But you know what? I am really, really, really attached to *these* plot lines.



"I'll be in my bunk."

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 8:39 PM

Ok, see if this will turn your stomach:

Serenity is a phenomenal film that brings in new fans as well as being the kind of thing the hard-core fans can point to and say "see, THIS is why i watch this stuff all the time!" some loose ends are wrapped up but others are left to tickle our brains and a few new threats pop up. the movie makes millions and a trilogy is announced. Joss gets inspired by a piece of paper he found in a fortune cookie and streaches this pseudo-intellectual bunk into a two hour script. after looking at the script he shuffles the pages into random order, divides the script into two equal piles and fills in the blank spaces between never-ending dialogue about the nature of reality and painful exposition with slow motion fight scenes and, for some reason, a musical number...

oh wait, that was Matrix. my bad

i'm still nervous though

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Wednesday, May 19, 2004 9:10 PM

LOL -- Hoagie, that's hysterical.

I don't worry as much about what happened to the Matrix happening with Serenity. I think I have more faith in Joss's writing abilities...and his attachment to the characters he created.



"I'll be in my bunk."

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:05 AM

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Originally posted by Chronos:
The worst ending I can imagine...

The movie is everything we hoped for, it's epic, revealing, action packed, romances go the way we want, pasts are revealed (Mal, Inara, Book), the jokes bring tears to our eyes... Basicaly our wildest and most secret dream come true. The movie lasts for 3+ hours and at the end there's the fade to black and the sign that says: "for Joss, 1964-2004".

Take me out to the black, tell them I ain't coming back



O pleass don't even say that. I see a healthy, long and full life for Mr. Whedon. Yes I do!! One with lots of writing and directing and producing in it. Projects keep coming and each is shinier than the next. Lots of ways to tell FF's story, of course.

Hmmm....that could be a new thread...what could outshine FF?

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:14 AM

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Jayne stands over Mal's dead body and says "Yep." (beat) "That was an interesting day...."


Yeah... but... see... that I wouldn't mind so much.

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Thursday, May 20, 2004 2:31 AM

No, no, no, no, no.

You can't kill off Jayne. The question of his loyalty to Mal is one of the suspenseful plot lines, and the character is just too integrated into the show considering he's been there since they picked up River and Simon. (What are they going to do, kill Jayne and then hire on another soldier-for-hire knowing they have fugitives on board?)

Besides, you can't just replace Jayne with another mercenary. He has too much character. And no, I don't mean character as in moral fiber. In fact, I think that if I'm 100% honest, I'd have to say that by "character" I mean that he can just walk into a room and it's one of the hottest moments in TV history. Plus, he's really, really funny.





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Thursday, May 20, 2004 12:16 PM

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Originally posted by terribletink:
Actually, I think the worst possible ending for the movie would be to wrap up all the loose ends from the show. After all, I think we all hope that the movie doesn't end this story....I know I'm hoping for more movies or a return to TV. (I'd actually love to see the show go to cable but that's a discussion for another thread.) So the movie can't reveal all the mysteries or wrap up all the plot lines.

So here are some things I would *not* like to see happen by the end of the movie:

-- River's full potential revealed. I'm sure the movie will focus on her a lot and that's fine, but I still think that the ongoing suspense of what she is *really* capable of after all the experimentation is too sweet to let go of(remember her telling Kaylee no power in the 'verse could stop her? -- what exactly does that mean?)

-- Jayne's final betrayal (or redemption for that matter). This is another on-going plot line that it would be a shame to derail. I mean, you get the feeling that if the show hadn't been cancelled that Jayne was going to find his conscience at some point, but then again, it could go the other way too and he could be the entire crew's undoing. Once you send him too far in either direction, good or bad, the character loses that suspense that makes him one of my favorite parts of the show. Think about it -- would it be as interesting if you really knew where everything stood with Jayne?

-- Too many romances. This is another thing I would rather see drag out *beyond* the movie. If they pair off Mal & Inara and Simon & Kaylee in the movie (don't think the Jayne & River pairing will make it outside the fan web sites ), then any future movies or TV will lose all that tension.

I know that they have to touch on all of these things in the movie because the romance, the Jayne factor, and River's state of mind are all such integral plot lines. But I guess I just worry that if *everything* is wrapped up in the movie that it will just feel like the whole story is over. And that, to me, would be the worst thing of all.

Off my soap box now....sorry for the small essay.




Morbid and creepifyin' I got no problem with, long as she does it quiet-like.



I think River's comment of 'No power in the 'verse can stop me', is just a direct quote of Kaylee earlier in the episode when she takes her apple back from River.
What I want to see is some back-up of River's threat to Jayne: 'I can kill you with my mind.' BUT no gorram Jedi stuff. Say it makes her go catatonic for an hour or something...
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Thursday, May 20, 2004 1:58 PM

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Actually, I think the worst possible ending for the movie would be to wrap up all the loose ends from the show.

Luckily, that won't happen. Joss wrote a wrapping up script where main characters died and everything was resolved, but then scrapped it and went for an open script leading into a new TV series.

Of course, I could be wrong. And even if Joss did wrap everything up, he'd probably do it in a superb, mind-blowingly awesome way.

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Friday, May 21, 2004 9:04 PM

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Joss wrote a wrapping up script where main characters died and everything was resolved, but then scrapped it and went for an open script leading into a new TV series.


That rumor is not true. Fillion, and I think other cast members have said a TV series revival is not in the cards. And Joss also responded in his EW weekly interview:

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EW:About Serenity: There were rumors you were asked to make some changes to your screenplay to accommodate Universal's vision for franchising. True?

JW: Absolute nonsense. You're seeing alot of movies that are built to be a springboard for a franchise. Like Underworld. Well, I'm saying maybe you should take a long hard look at your f---ing movie before you worry about your franchise. Obviously, Universal does see this as a potential franchise-springboard marketing vehicle. But none of that matters unless I make a movie that not only people who loved Firefly will respect, but people who never heard of it can walk in and have a wonderful time.



Why is everyone here so gungho about reviving the series? Accept that it's over. I think the worst possible ending would be for it to have no ending. Open-ended? Fuck that. I won't stuff payed off. Because a TV series revival ain't gonna happen.

--- Joe

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:24 AM

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That rumor is not true. Fillion, and I think other cast members have said a TV series revival is not in the cards. And Joss also responded in his EW weekly interview:


--- Joe



Whilst, yes, it is unlikely seeing as how Universal hold the rights to Firefly stuff for something like 5 years after the film, if Serenity is a success then a further two films are on the cards. So sayeth Joss, at least.

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 10:00 AM

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Why is everyone here so gungho about reviving the series? Accept that it's over. I think the worst possible ending would be for it to have no ending. Open-ended? Fuck that. I won't stuff payed off. Because a TV series revival ain't gonna happen.
Settle down Joe. Your hard-bitten, voice of reason crap has come and gone from this board many times, most of the time telling us how silly we were to hope for more Firefly. 'Just get over it' they'd say, 'accept it'. Yeah, whatever.

If we'd listened to that advice there's a very good chance it would be over, no movie, nothing. So, we'll keep hoping for a series, we'll keep asking that the story remain open-ended, and you'll just have to accept that. Dong Ma?



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Saturday, May 22, 2004 6:16 PM

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Why is everyone here so gungho about reviving the series? Accept that it's over. I think the worst possible ending would be for it to have no ending. Open-ended? Fuck that. I won't stuff payed off. Because a TV series revival ain't gonna happen.
Settle down Joe. Your hard-bitten, voice of reason crap has come and gone from this board many times, most of the time telling us how silly we were to hope for more Firefly. 'Just get over it' they'd say, 'accept it'. Yeah, whatever.

If we'd listened to that advice there's a very good chance it would be over, no movie, nothing. So, we'll keep hoping for a series, we'll keep asking that the story remain open-ended, and you'll just have to accept that. Dong Ma?



SergeantX

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Hear, hear!
And I agree that the worst ending would be all the loose ends wrapped up. I want as much Firefly as possible. Hopefully 7 good seasons after all three movies. That'd be nice.

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:24 PM

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If we'd listened to that advice there's a very good chance it would be over, no movie, nothing. So, we'll keep hoping for a series, we'll keep asking that the story remain open-ended, and you'll just have to accept that. Dong Ma?



So you would prefer that the movie "Serenity" function just like the pilot "Serenity"? More questions, and no answers? I can't concieve of a person who would want that. That is not what a movie should be. Joss promised "one giant pay-off" at an LA convention last december, and that's what I'm wanting and expecting.

--- Joe

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:31 PM

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Hear, hear!
And I agree that the worst ending would be all the loose ends wrapped up. I want as much Firefly as possible. Hopefully 7 good seasons after all three movies. That'd be nice.


A trilogy of movies would be a dream come true. Thing is, after that there would be nowhere for a tv series to go. Perhaps a spin-off, but there's no way we're going to see the return of "Firefly" as we knew it.

--- Joe

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Saturday, May 22, 2004 7:36 PM

Settle down Joe. Your hard-bitten, voice of reason crap has come and gone from this board many times, most of the time telling us how silly we were to hope for more Firefly. 'Just get over it' they'd say, 'accept it'. Yeah, whatever.

If we'd listened to that advice there's a very good chance it would be over, no movie, nothing. So, we'll keep hoping for a series, we'll keep asking that the story remain open-ended, and you'll just have to accept that. Dong Ma?


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Saturday, May 22, 2004 8:42 PM

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Hear, hear!
And I agree that the worst ending would be all the loose ends wrapped up. I want as much Firefly as possible. Hopefully 7 good seasons after all three movies. That'd be nice.


A trilogy of movies would be a dream come true. Thing is, after that there would be nowhere for a tv series to go. Perhaps a spin-off, but there's no way we're going to see the return of "Firefly" as we knew it.

--- Joe



Ah, I don't know about that. Joss did seven seasons of Buffy, five seasons of Angel whilst generally keeping a high calibre of story throughout. Yes, I know that a trilogy of films isn't the same as a couple of series of a TV program, but the fact remains is that Joss can create an awful lot of ideas, storylines etc. for a series. Therefore, why not with a continuation of Firefly after the films?

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Sunday, May 23, 2004 5:12 AM

The worst ending for the movie that I can think of is...

Fox thanking us for our years of loyalty and comitment.

That would tick me off more than the one the WB did.

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Sunday, May 23, 2004 5:55 PM

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Filming has completed when Universal gets jittery and brings in Jerry Bruckheimer and Michael Bay to retool it for a more mass market appeal.


Now the scary thing is, if Fox still owned the rights to Firefly, that might happen.

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Monday, May 24, 2004 5:20 PM

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The worst ending for the movie that I can think of is...

Fox thanking us for our years of loyalty and comitment.



heh. that would be like Nickelodeon thanking Invader Zim fans for being a constant pain in their ass. they have basically flung the IZ DVDs out in a "take the stuff and stop bothering me" manner.

Fox would never survive. if they piss of Joss Whedon fans like that. generally we are smart, cynical, and worst of all, creative. the last one is death for the ones who put out all the freakin reality shows and "when animals attack the world's scariest police chases caught on tape 5".

now ending Serenity like they ended the X-Files film (ie. bulid-up, build-up, build-up, build-up, watch Fox) would suck so much it would both suck and blow

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Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:07 PM

The credits. As long as it never reaches the credits I'll be happy.



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