South Ossetia: Defense against ethnic cleansing, or invasion? (Turns out, Georgia fired missiles first. it was self defense)
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UPDATED: Sunday, August 23, 2026 15:28
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
There's little if any evidence of that...
And thats more then you ever seem to need.
H
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...and all YOU'VE ever needed, "Hero", was, "Well, Bush says..."
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Georgia to withdraw all of its troops from Iraq
http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Georgia_to_withdraw_all_of_its_troops_
from_Iraq_999.html
Russian forces swept across Georgia on Monday, capturing the town of Gori and moving to within 35 miles of the capital city Tbilisi, FOX News confirmed.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,401243,00.html
Georgian president runs for cover
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7554417.stm
U.S. military aircraft bring 800 Georgian troops home from Iraq
MOSCOW, August 11 RIA Novosti
http://en.rian.ru/world/20080811/115956220.html
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Originally posted by Geezer:
Even more importantly, if Russia decides to keep going and invade Georgia proper, will the US come to Georgia's defense?
Unfortunately Georgia's NATO membership card got lost in the mail.
We did ship their 2,000 troops back home from Iraq on US transports and hopefully with a couple spare magazines for their shiny new M16's.
Georgia has about 18,000 troops in 5 Infantry Brigades and assorted support units. Their Air Force has a squadron of SU-25s and a handfull of 3rd rate Fighters. Russia devoted an entire Army which is organized like an American Corps with 2-4 Motorized Rifle Divisions and a Tank Division...as many as 100,000 men and probably a Wing of fighter and fighter-bombers for support.
Given today's news Russia is taking the opportunity to 'liberate' the whole country and its oil pipeline now since next year Georgia was expected to get NATO membership.
H
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Dang, if only there were some terrorists - er, I mean mujahideen - that we could get to act as our proxies and fight those dastardly Rooskies. But according to the right, we've pretty much already killed them all...
Mike
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Originally posted by Hero:
Given today's news Russia is taking the opportunity to 'liberate' the whole country and its oil pipeline now since next year Georgia was expected to get NATO membership.
H
Yep. Starting to look like Russia wants to protect its European oil monopoly, and isn't above killing a lot of Georgians to do so. It'll be interesting to see if they can get away with such actions without the bleeding hearts screaming "NO BLOOD FOR OIL!!" Bet we won't hear a peep.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:I'm not a bleeding heart, but I'll say it to make ya happy- The Russian government SUCKS!!! The timing is no coincidence, obviously.
Originally posted by Geezer:
Starting to look like Russia wants to protect its European oil monopoly, and isn't above killing a lot of Georgians to do so. It'll be interesting to see if they can get away with such actions without the bleeding hearts screaming "NO BLOOD FOR OIL!!" Bet we won't hear a peep.
Callin' it Chrisisall
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Quote:Yeah, this seems to sum up the situation pretty well, unfortunately.
Originally posted by Hero:
Given today's news Russia is taking the opportunity to 'liberate' the whole country and its oil pipeline now since next year Georgia was expected to get NATO membership.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I have some suspicions.
Look at the geographical positioning of Georgia, and potential supply routes for their support of middle east allies - and tell me it does not occur to you that this particular set of events might have been "helped along" by certain someones intelligence people ?
There's little if any evidence of that, but just sayin it's awfully damned convenient.
-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it
Well , little evidence apart from yesterday's news :
http://www.presstv.com/Detail.aspx?id=66203§ionid=351020202
Actual 'mileage' may vary , depending upon user habits...
Here's a view that comes as no particular surprise , from a related article :
" Washington backed the 'Rose Revolution' that paved the way for Saakashvili's rise to power. For his part, Saakashvili agreed on hosting the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline, which has been designed to transport energy resources from the Caspian Basin to the Mediterranean, while bypassing Russia. "
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=66206§ionid=3510303
And , on the U.S. transport of battle-hardened Georgian troops from Iraq :
" Russian Premier Vladimir Putin said sending the Georgian troops from Iraq would not change the situation and the US is hampering the peacekeeping operation in South Ossetia. "
' It's a pity that some of our partners instead of helping are trying to get in the way, I mean the United States using its military transport aircraft to relocate Georgia's military contingent from Iraq virtually to the conflict zone, among other things," said Putin.'
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=66322§ionid=351020606
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Says here the Baku-Ceyhan pipeline fire , caused by a 'blast' , has been put out :
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=66325§ionid=351020204
And , not to worry , " tomorrow's " news says more Federal Reserve Notes are on the way to help the afflicted :
http://www.presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=66333§ionid=351020606
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