It's not the deeds, it's the hate.
POSTED BY: Fremdfirma
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 8, 2008 18:47
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Oh hey there Chris, is all
No, I was referring to any proposal that the kids hated the teacher for some entirely justified reason.
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Each of you have touched on what could be contributing to this scenario.
Taking from each of you, this could be the chain:
1. Tough teacher. Possibly bad, but not yet had administrative action.
2. Dislike of teacher by well-known or troubled student.
3. Powerful personality and influence turn words into a dare.
4. With the help of today's media (music, games, tv, news...) and a rough parent, a dare's conclusion has to be more realistic.
5. Only a real plan and a real gun will prove how on top of things the kid is.
6. And scene.
The teacher needs to evaluate the discipline methods used in class. The parents need to better regulate what their 9 and 10-year children listen or watch. Good lord, ask them how their day was! The students need to learn revenge is never okay. No matter how good it feels or how morally right it appears...It's wrong.
Frem, I don't think it's us against them. I think it's the media against us. Sure kids have always had a little adult resentment, but it peaks during wars and hard times. Which means we need to be doubly vigilant.
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Quote:I think the Sarge has the best take in the post just above.
Originally posted by rue:
I was referring to any proposal that the kids hated the teacher for some entirely justified reason.
You gotta do it; it's a dare Chrisisall
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Quote:HK- I could... and have... gone on at some length in other posts about the pathology of our "Every man for himself and God against all" uber-capitalist society, which teaches that anything is allowed- as long as you don't get caught.
Oh for cryin' out loud. We live in a real world where waterboarding is demonstrated on the nightly news, we justify the killing of hundreds of thousands of people to depose one "bad man," where O.J. Simpson murders the hell out of his wife and gets away with it, where hatred of the right people is considered virtuous and even questioning the wrong people means you're a "terrorist" and you want to blame A VDEO GAME??? I'll grant that games may demonstrate methods but they do not manufacture the intent, they do not create motivations! Signy, please, you need to do some research on child abuse, depth psychology, something. Would you diagnose cancer without any medical knowledge?
I question nearly every day the pathology of the "Jack Bauer/ Chuck Norris" model of justice (which we see in Hero, Auraptor and Finn) which justifies any action as long as it's "for a good cause"... which inevitably morphs into vengeance, the insidious fantasy of "the hero" and the attendant single-minded and self-destructive individualism which undermines our one REAL chance of overthrowing our oppressors (as opposed to the fantasies that are shoved into our eyeballs every day). I've also posted ... as you know... about the need to treat our young with respect. The fact that we allow corporations to sell to our basest drives... sex, violence, and chemically-enhanced fun... in 30-second clips, and to portray life in the most idiotic way possible, all to sell us stuff that we don't need... is just one example that our culture treats NOBODY with respect, adults OR children. I brought up media violence simply as an EXAMPLE of the factors at work that are outside of Frem's framework. And yours too, apparently.
So save our outrage for somebody who might actually learn something from it, 'cause I've been there and done that already and I feel like I'm way ahead of you on this one.
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I and a sibling - at the tender ages of +/- 3 - walked over a mile from home across US route 20 on a dare. It all started with daring to jump over the drain grate and into the street - where we were NOT supposed to go. And once that was done what was the next level dare ?
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"which teaches that anything is allowed- as long as you don't get caught"
Just a slight quibble - anything is allowed, but only as long as it's for money. What isn't allowed is people actually getting together and cooperating to change society for the common good. Because that's just wrong.
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Quote:Eh, too true.
Just a slight quibble - anything is allowed, but only as long as it's for money. What isn't allowed is people actually getting together and cooperating to change society for the common good. Because that's just wrong
There's just something creepy and unintepretable about altruism because, I mean, gosh, there MUST be some underhanded motive for it!
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Quote:It's Communist.
Originally posted by rue:
Because that's just wrong.
Not a Pinko Chrisisall
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Yes, rue. Kids plotting to abduct their teacher is clearly a guilty verdict on the twisted mentality of free market libertarians.
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