Putin reveals Russia secret Crimea takeover in documentary
POSTED BY: Geezer
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 1, 2025 19:22
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Why is it that the only way you can formulate a response is by mis-stating what Signy posts? Do you have a problem with reading, or is it with honesty?
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"This coming from the person who says she has to depend on Putin Media for her news."
No, she says she depends on Russia media for PART of what she analyzes to try to figure out what's going on.
Fortunately, I can piece together whatever is in French and Spanish. I can scan the headlines in German, at least, to see what they're talking ABOUT. Unfortunately, I have to rely on translators to tell me about the rest. But I do the best I can ... I do look at the English-language version Xinhua, and Novosti, and the Straits Times, for example. I have the Kyiv Post and the BBC on my list of sites that I scan regularly. Even if I don't have time to read the articles, it's important to know what's making it into the news ... what's being forwarded by each nation's MSM. It's a good indication of what's being covered, and -more importantly- what's NOT being covered. Seeing what's in their media is a good indication of policies to come.
I'll leave it to you to try and pretend what you claim Signy posted is anything like what Signy actually posted.
And, to answer my question to you - your problem is with honesty.
SAGAN: We are releasing vast quantities of carbon dioxide, increasing the greenhouse effect. It may not take much to destabilize the Earth's climate, to convert this heaven, our only home in the cosmos, into a kind of hell.
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Originally posted by G:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
Since MAL4 is entirely incapable of rational thought...
This coming from the person who says she has to depend on Putin Media for her news.
That definitely explains the warped pov.
Yes, thank you for entirely mis-characterizing what I wrote. In fact, you lied here too ...
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OF COURSE you thought it was a nazi salute. OF COURSE you thought he'd been caught being a nazi. OF COURSE you thought you'd proven your point beyond reproach
I noticed you haven't responded to that, and I doubt that you can respond rationally here either. My god, when did it get so personal to you that you lost all sense?
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I said he was PANDERING to Nazis, you fool. This had all to with how much power Nazis had in Ukraine, not whether Yats himself was a Nazi. And being onstage with a Nazi means he was pandering to them.
It's like a politican in the USA being onstage with a well-known KKK representative. What would YOU conclude, if such a thing happened?
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Quote:Lucian Kim wrote an article about a video that none of us had access to, dismissing but not describing a video which we couldn't either refute or validate, either by access to HIS words or by access to the video itself.
The Lucian Kim article accuses the Crimea documentary of insinuation, montage, distortion, and claiming (false) things as 'facts' without supporting evidence.
You posited that Kim's article was leaving out supporting evidence that was actually in the documentary. I invited you to watch the documentary and locate this evidence, if it exists.
Someone (you?) provided a link. I watched it. It was 15 minutes long, it had an "ep 1" somewhere on the video, and (except for the teaser about Crimea) it was all about rescuing Yanukovich. If you have a link to the whole thing, great. If not, STFU about it until it's aired.
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And then posted:
I didn't say (and didn't mean to imply) that Yats is a closet Nazi. What I DID intend to show... and the person with whom Yats in onstage, Nazi salute or otherwise makes the point .... is that Yats is PANDERING to Nazis. And politicians don't pander to powerless groups.
So, selective quoting is now your way of misrepresenting other people in order to manage a repopnse?
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Show me some objective evidence ..."
What would YOU takes as 'objective evidence'? Some blog by somebody? An editorial in a mainstream paper? A claim by Obama? By Putin? A single-source news article that gets quoted, repeated and cited in 20 different msm media sources (as long as you cite more than one of them)?
I'll take the same evidence SignyM seems to ask for any time someone posts anything critical of Russia. Ask her what level of proof she demands.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
AFA Crimea is concerned, I respect the right of any portion of any nation - like SLOVENIA, Catalonia, or the Basque region - or any nation in a supranational group - like Greece in the EU- to withdraw.
So you would have supported the Confederacy's attempt to secede from the United States?
"When your heart breaks, you choose what to fill the cracks with. Love or hate. But hate won't ever heal. Only love can do that."
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I already addressed that, I guess you didn't see how it applied. This is how I view the news.
Quote:That applies to the US media as well as foreign media. Until you get a much wider world view, it's hard to see how your limited your own media is.
That's why I go to foreign press. Fortunately, I can piece together whatever is in French and Spanish. I can scan the headlines in German, at least, to see what they're talking ABOUT. Unfortunately, I have to rely on translators to tell me about the rest. But I do the best I can ... I do look at the English-language version Xinhua, and Novosti, and the Straits Times, for example. I have the Kyiv Post and the BBC on my list of sites that I scan regularly. Even if I don't have time to read the articles, it's important to know what's making it into the news ... what's being forwarded by each nation's MSM. It's a good indication of what's being covered, and -more importantly- what's NOT being covered. Seeing what's in their media is a good indication of policies to come.
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AFA Crimea is concerned, I respect the right of any portion of any nation - like SLOVENIA, Catalonia, or the Basque region - or any nation in a supranational group - like Greece in the EU- to withdraw.-SIGNY
So you would have supported the Confederacy's attempt to secede from the United States? -GEEZER
I've already answered that more than once. What do YOU think?
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