Putin reveals Russia secret Crimea takeover in documentary

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SIGNYM

Saturday, March 14, 2015 11:31 AM

G, do you suppose it's even remotely possible that you can leave your prejudices at the door before you start posting?

Just OOC, were you terribly surprised by 9-11?

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MAL4PREZ

Saturday, March 14, 2015 8:25 PM

Epic dodges above...

I do wonder where putin went. Maybe the CIA killed him to take suspicion away from how the CIA killed nemtsov to take suspicion away from from how the CIA started the war in the Ukraine. Dang those guys are good. ;)

Or maybe he sentenced himself to hard labor in Siberia to punish himself for slipping up with the documentary... Oops! Ok, not that he's actually worried about it. As evidenced here, his cult will swallow any contradiction and wash it down with the yummy kool-aid.

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SIGNYM

Saturday, March 14, 2015 8:38 PM

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BWAHAHAHAHAHA! You're totally sh*tting everyone, right? Did you type that with a straight face? And if someone - god forbid - would ever stick a gun in your face would you say you *voluntarily* gave your money to them?

Of course not. EPIC FAIL on the analogy.

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G, do you suppose it's even remotely possible that you can leave your prejudices at the door before you start posting? Just OOC, were you terribly surprised by 9-11? -SIGNY
So, no comment on the documentary? "Deflection" must be a very popular word in Russia...

My god. MRGSTRING, how can I possibly comment on the documentary? It hasn't even been released yet!
I'll leave commenting on events which haven't happened to you, since that seems to be your specialty.

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What prejudice? Not to trust any government? It would be pretty naive to trust any of them - I don't know how you do it.

What are you, waiting with bated breathe for the latest propaganda?

The reason why I asked about 9-11 is because I wasn't surprised by it; in fact, I was a little relieved that it wasn't worse. Anyone who didn't see it coming was asleep. Please, wake up.

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THGRRI

Saturday, March 14, 2015 10:45 PM

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...Sig The reason why I asked about 9-11 is because I wasn't surprised by it; in fact, I was a little relieved that it wasn't worse. Anyone who didn't see it coming was asleep. Please, wake up.

The reason you mentioned 911 is to deflect from the issue while reminding others that The United States is the evil one who deserved it. You have posted here enough for us to understand what you wish to imply with impunity or with enough wiggle room to say that was not what you meant. More and more people here are separating out your subjective posting from the topic so it is harder and harder for you to hide what you are saying or not saying.

SIGNYM

Sunday, March 15, 2015 7:53 AM

No, the reason why I mentioned 9-11 is because for most Americans it was a huge, existential shock.

For the first time it came clear to many Americans that people around the world hate us and are willing impose their vengeance in some really horrible ways.

My point wasn't whether we deserved it or not, but that fact that so many Americans were so terribly, terribly surprised.

Why were they?

It's because they live in a bubble, think in a bubble, and interact in a bubble.

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THGRRI

Sunday, March 15, 2015 8:19 AM

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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
No, the reason why I mentioned 9-11 is because for most Americans it was a huge, existential shock.

For the first time it came clear to many Americans that people around the world hate us and are willing impose their vengeance in some really horrible ways.

My point wasn't whether we deserved it or not, but that fact that so many Americans were so terribly, terribly surprised.

Why were they?

It's because they live in a bubble, think in a bubble, and interact in a bubble.

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You can't build a nation with bombs. You can't create a society with guns.

Yeah, I don't think so. The list of bombings around the globe directed at us up until that point left little to ponder about what they thought of America. Again you're just talking out your ass. It's just a way for you to point the finger at America. You aren't fooling anyone, give it up.

1KIKI

Sunday, March 15, 2015 10:13 AM

"denied using RT all the time"

The word was constantly.

Mal4, if you're unfamiliar with the meaning, here's a definition:

con·stant·ly
'känst(?)n(t)le/
adverb
continuously over a period of time; always.

Also, I answered that post - twice. But let me repeat it here, again. First of all I posted two posts in 23 pages that ultimately came from RT. Now, maybe you think that meets the definition of 'constantly', but it was neither 'continuous' nor 'always'. Second, those posts came from emails that were sent to me. And while I didn't track back to find the 'source' I DID vet the information, which was true in both cases.

So, you're wrong when you say I 'disappeared'. You should align your notions with reality better.

Oh, what am I saying? It'd be easier for a pig to fly.

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SIGNYM

Sunday, March 15, 2015 12:43 PM

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Yeah, I don't think so. The list of bombings around the globe directed at us up until that point left little to ponder about what they thought of America

There was nothing to "ponder", it should have been self-evident that people around the world HATED us (still do). Furthermore, there was nothing between us, the Cole, and the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania except lots and lots of ocean. Why the fuck did anyone (you) even imagine they (you) were safe?

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GEEZER

Monday, March 16, 2015 9:04 AM

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MOSCOW — Russian President Vladimir Putin personally directed his nation’s capture of Ukraine’s Crimean Peninsula, he said in a documentary aired Sunday, in which he offered details of his deep involvement in last year’s quick and effective takeover.

Putin said that Russia had flooded the Black Sea peninsula with special forces officers in the days after President Viktor Yanukovych fled Kiev in February 2014, and Putin said that the success of the precision operation surprised even him. With Kiev in chaos, Putin said, he was ready at the time to put Russia’s nuclear forces on alert.

The more than two-hour-long documentary, called “Crimea: Path to the Homeland,” offered new details about Putin’s actions between Yanukovych’s late-night escape from Ukraine’s capital on Feb. 21, 2014, and Russia’s annexation of Crimea less than four weeks later. Russia is planning celebrations this week to mark the March 18 anniversary of the annexation, and the lavishly financed film was a kickoff.

Putin’s account gave fresh insight into a fast-moving military operation that caught both Ukraine and its Western allies off-guard. Last year, Putin initially denied that Russia had anything to do with the armed men who wore no identifying insignia as they seized key Crimean infrastructure in the days after Yanukovych was deposed. Putin later said they were special forces units — and even created a holiday in their honor.

In the documentary, Putin said he had ordered special forces, marines and paratroopers to be deployed “under the guise of reinforcing our military facilities in Crimea.” Putin said that Russia did not violate any treaties because it was allowed under its long-standing agreement with Ukraine to station up to 20,000 soldiers on its Crimean military bases, and that number was never breached.

The planning for the seizure of the peninsula began after an all-night meeting that began when Yanukovych fled his presidential residence on the outskirts of Kiev, Putin said. Russia had previously said that it annexed Crimea because the peninsula’s population demanded it after alleged threats to Russians in Ukraine.

The revised account confirms what many had long deemed self-evident — that the idea for annexation originated more inside the Kremlin than in Crimea itself. But Putin said he would not have taken Crimea had its residents not desired to unite with Russia.

Secret polling conducted ahead of the official referendum led Putin to believe that 75 percent of Crimeans wanted to join Russia, he said. He said that he had never thought about “dismembering” Ukraine until Yanukovych was deposed.

Putin said that Russian special forces helped Yanukovych and his entourage flee to Russia after a trek across Ukraine that eventually ended in Crimea.

Crimean residents overwhelmingly voted to join Russia in a hastily organized referendum, but Kiev and the West have said that the referendum was illegal and illegitimate. Many opponents of annexation refrained from voting rather than voting no.

“You know what our advantage was? The fact that I was doing this personally,” he said. “Not because I did everything correctly, but because when it is done by the top person in government, it’s much easier for those who fulfill orders to work.” Ukrainian forces in Crimea were ill-organized after the collapse of the government in Kiev, he said.

“We were ready” to raise Russia’s nuclear forces to a high state of readiness, Putin said. “But I proceeded from the belief that it would not go so far.”

The annexation of Crimea led to a cascade of conflict that has opened vast new rifts between Russia and the West. More than 6,000 people have died in fighting in eastern Ukraine, where Kiev and its Western allies say that the Kremlin is fueling a pro-Russian rebellion. Putin denies it.

The new geopolitical confrontation has also reshaped Russia’s internal politics, consolidating support for Putin and isolating dissenting voices. The degree to which Russian life now revolves around Putin has been dramatized by his unexplained 10

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1KIKI

Monday, March 16, 2015 12:16 PM

"Considering how few sources you actually do cite ..."

So, I did a quick survey. In 5 pages I posted 40 times ands included 25 links. But if you omit the merely conversational posts (such as 'STAY FOCUSED', and 'I'm still waiting for an answer') and only include the posts where I claimed a fact, I posted 28 posts with 25 links.

Do you consider that a 'few'?

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