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No plan - yet. Despite knowing about ISIS for over a year now.

POSTED BY: AURaptor
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Thursday, September 4, 2014 1:15 AM




Let's see, in the past few weeks you've been angry over admitting to a rescue attempt, and now you're angry over not admitting to any further plans.

Seems you've got your head rather further up your own ass than usual.


Meanwhile, you've yet to come up with *ANY* plan for dealing with them, all while crying and blubbering about someone else not having a plan (because he hasn't shared it with you personally via facebook, one presumes).

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 2:23 AM

Obama is more & more isolated. Even lib Dems are bashing him over his non stance.

Obama too cautious over ISIS - Feinstein (D-CA )

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/30/feinstein-obama-cautious-isis
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In a tough letter to Attorney General Eric Holder on Tuesday evening, Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) said he was “troubled” by statements indicating the administration lacks a comprehensive military strategy in Syria. Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) channeled many Republicans’ rhetoric on ISIL in asking the administration to clearly articulate a comprehensive strategy to take on the extremist group. And Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-N.H.) lit into Obama’s goal to make ISIL a “manageable problem.”



http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/al-franken-obama-isil-strategy-1
10557.html#ixzz3CHyLBRk0

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:37 AM



Again, what is your plan? Specifically regarding Syria, what do you propose? What are you telling your congressional representatives that you'll support?

Do we support Assad, or do we support the rebels, ISIS among them?


Do we send in troops, or do we stick to no boots-on-the-ground? (And remember, if we send in airstrikes, that means boots on the ground, because invariably we lose a plane or two and have to mount rescue missions, which you're pretty clearly against)


So give us your plan. Show us your foreign-policy expertise. You're quick to point out the failings and shortcomings of the Obama administration, so what's YOUR plan?


Or will you be like that *other* so-called libertarian, Rand Paul, and oppose military action before you turn around two days later and support it?

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 10:46 AM




I still have yet to hear ANYONE- here, on TV, or anywhere - come up with a viable plan for dealing with this situation.



What's the solution? More bombs? More invasion and occupation? Clearly those have worked out so well in Iraq, of course we should probably do that again, right?


So what's the plan?

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 2:10 PM

Checker playerz alwayz hav a plan. Unfortunately, they sumtimez get lost and stumble into a chess tournament but cant tell the difference kuz the board looks the same.

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 5:38 PM

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Originally posted by ELVISCHRIST:



I still have yet to hear ANYONE- here, on TV, or anywhere - come up with a viable plan for dealing with this situation.




Asking that is a straw man. No one else is President and Commander in Chief. No one else has been getting daily briefings on the Islamic State for over a year. No one else sees the problem with as bi-polar clarity as Obama, who says I.S. will be destroyed, followed by saying how I.S. is a problem to be ' managed '.

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What's the solution? More bombs? More invasion and occupation? Clearly those have worked out so well in Iraq, of course we should probably do that again, right?


So what's the plan?



Send them to hell, just like Joe Biden so boldly claimed. Not merely manage them, like they're some sort of money market account.


At least Rand Paul comes to a decision, and doesn't switch positions in mid speech, giving allies and enemies no CLUE from where he comes. Funny, when others have a change of view, they're flip-flopping. But with Obama, he ' evolves '. Well, many from his own party have evolved to the point where they think he needs to do more. Not just give disjointed, schizophrenic speeches on the issue.

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 8:54 PM



Are you suggesting that killing them is definitely *NOT* managing the problem?


BTW, you still haven't given us your detailed plan. You're very upset with the president for not laying out all the details, but you haven't laid out even one. You were mad when he admitted to trying something before, now you're mad because he's not saying in advance what we're going to do. It must be a weird place inside your head, living with that howling vacuum and complete lack of logic.


You claim that "no one else has been getting daily briefings" - can you prove that? Can you prove that nobody in Congress, the NSA, the CIA, or Homeland Security has been getting such briefings? "No one" is an awfully large and all-encompassing term.

"Send them to hell"... how, exactly? Again, you've laid out less of a plan than the president you're so upset with. You claim superiority and a higher level of expertise than the president and his administration, who you constantly belittle as "naive" and "amateurs", so what's your plan? Lay it out already! Show us what you know that these "amateurs" can't figure out.

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:07 PM

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Orginally posted by AURaptor:

No one else is President and Commander in Chief.


Some people are too stupid to understand that only the President can order military action.

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Send them to hell, just like Joe Biden so boldly claimed.

Empty words from an idiot with no authority to order anything.... except his lunch.

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Not merely manage them, like they're some sort of money market account.

More like Obama as a teenager using Pro-Active to manage his acne breakout on date night.


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At least Rand Paul comes to a decision, and doesn't switch positions in mid speech, giving allies and enemies no CLUE from where he comes. Funny, when others have a change of view, they're flip-flopping.
I have no use for the guy. He's an opportunist with no real core beleifs. I watched him flip back and forth in a five minute segment last night.

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:19 PM

They're called PDB's for a reason.

Ask Joe.

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Thursday, September 4, 2014 9:37 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
They're called PDB's for a reason.

Ask George.




Fixed.


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