IMF to Kiev - fight for eastern Ukraine or die
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 2, 2026 17:17
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:
Nazis? You are ignoring the complete history of the Svobada party. You also forget that the Ukrainian Parliament voted to remove Yanukovych from power. It was the Parliament who also put Olexander Turchynov in place as the interim president.
The opposition did not what to wait for early elections because that would have given Yanukovych to take Russian money and basically ensure some ties to Moscow in the future.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
I thought I would see if anyone else would take up the charge. I see you and KPO have things well in hand. Hey we win? Ha Ha.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:It was a Parliament which was missing the 35% of its representatives from the south and east who fled because they felt unsafe. Yep, democracy. Ain't it grand???
It was the Parliament who also put Olexander Turchynov in place as the interim president.
So Parliament was just not to do anything? Did missing those members mean they did not have enough members, by their parliamentary rules, to remove the President?
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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M52- It means they do not represent the people... are missing a significant group. Any selection as a result is likely to be unacceptable to a significant minority. Apparently this bothered the appointed government not a whit, which leads me to wonder what they're doing and who they think they're representing.
MIKER- If you really think that completely burying your head in the sand... or someplace else less pleasant ... is "winning", then you've "won". I hope you enjoy the view, and the smell.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
M52- It means they do not represent the people... are missing a significant group. Any selection as a result is likely to be unacceptable to a significant minority. Apparently this bothered the appointed government not a whit, which leads me to wonder what they're doing and who they think they're representing.
That is a nice appeal, but it does not answer my questions. Do you think Parliament should have done nothing? Did they have enough representatives to take the actions they did legally?
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
M52- It means they do not represent the people... are missing a significant group. Any selection as a result is likely to be unacceptable to a significant minority. Apparently this bothered the appointed government not a whit, which leads me to wonder what they're doing and who they think they're representing.
MIKER- If you really think that completely burying your head in the sand... or someplace else less pleasant ... is "winning", then you've "won". I hope you enjoy the view, and the smell.
With your head so far up your ass how is possible you can read my posts?
And yes it smells like victory to me. You two keep getting smacked down no matter who it is you are dealing with.
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They did not have the authority to select a new President, according to Ukrainian law.
What they SHOULD have done is keep Yanukovich as a placeholder, and hold early elections AS AGREED TO ALREADY. But the new government was rushing to ink a deal with the EU and the IMF, it was uncertain what elections would result in, so legality and representation be hanged.
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How many of you thought that Saddam had WMD?
Who among you thought that Assad used chemical weapons in Syria?
How many of you were surprised by 9-11?
Did any of you predict the meltdown of 2008?
Who thought that Russia invaded Georgia unprovoked?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
They did not have the authority to select a new President, according to Ukrainian law.
What they SHOULD have done is keep Yanukovich as a placeholder, and hold early elections AS AGREED TO ALREADY. But the new government was rushing to ink a deal with the EU and the IMF, it was uncertain what elections would result in, so legality and representation be hanged.
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How many of you thought that Saddam had WMD?
Who among you thought that Assad used chemical weapons in Syria?
How many of you were surprised by 9-11?
Did any of you predict the meltdown of 2008?
Who thought that Russia invaded Georgia unprovoked?
I can't help myself. Just who the hell do you think you are to tell the people of the Ukraine what to do? Your love of self is off the charts.
Are you that familiar with Ukrainian law? Are you even a lawyer? Or is it the god syndrome?
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It's not ME telling Ukrainians what to do, it's their Constitution.(It was discussed at the time, you just didn't notice.) And right now, it's YOU telling them what to do: Ignore the wishes of the people! Kill them!
Oh, and BTW- please answer the following questions.
Did you believe that Saddam had WMD?
Did you think that Assad used chemical weapons in Syria?
Were you were surprised by 9-11?
Did you predict the meltdown of 2008?
Were you convinced that Russia invaded Georgia unprovoked?
Have you been duped your entire life?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
It's not ME telling Ukrainians what to do, it's their Constitution. And right now, it's YOU telling them what to do: Ignore the wishes of the people! Kill them!
Oh, and BTW- please answer the following questions.
How many of you thought that Saddam had WMD?
Who among you thought that Assad used chemical weapons in Syria?
How many of you were surprised by 9-11?
Did any of you predict the meltdown of 2008?
Who thought that Russia invaded Georgia unprovoked?
What constitution are you talking about? Ours or theirs? If it is theirs please show me where in their constitution it says what you are clamming.
Oh and by the way, what the hell does your list of grievances above have to do with the Ukraine?
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
They did not have the authority to select a new President, according to Ukrainian law.
What they SHOULD have done is keep Yanukovich as a placeholder, and hold early elections AS AGREED TO ALREADY. But the new government was rushing to ink a deal with the EU and the IMF, it was uncertain what elections would result in, so legality and representation be hanged.
Please give me a citation to show that the Parliament did not have the power to place an interim President.
The first agreement had elections as late as December, after removing Yanukovich the Parliament announced elections in May. So elections sooner. Keeping Yanukovich as a place holder was not going to happen after his orders got so many protesters killed.
Elections in May or December? Which one seems more like a stall tactic?
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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