IMF to Kiev - fight for eastern Ukraine or die
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Please give me a citation to show that the Parliament did not have the power to place an interim President.
Why do I have to do your thinking for you?
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On February 21, 2014 the parliament passed a law that reinstated the December 8, 2004 amendments of the constitution.[16] This was passed under simplified procedure without any decision of the relevant committee and was passed in the first and the second reading in one voting by 386 deputies.[16] The law was approved by 140 MPs of the Party of Regions, 89 MPs of Batkivshchyna, 40 MPs of UDAR, 32 of the Communist Party, and 50 independent lawmakers.[16] According to Radio Free Europe, however, the measure was not signed by the then-President Viktor Yanukovych, who allegedly was subsequently removed from office without the constitutionally required procedures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Ukraine
It's not grievances, MIKER. Gosh, I would have thought the intent would have been obvious, and not need explanation.
It's a short list of how people have been duped over and over again. Duped on 9-11, duped about Iraq, duped about Libya, Duped about Syria. Have you been duped your entire life? If you were lied to about many of these events, how do you know that the press isn't lying to you now???
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Originally posted by m52nickerson:Quote:
Originally posted by SIGNYM:
They did not have the authority to select a new President, according to Ukrainian law.
What they SHOULD have done is keep Yanukovich as a placeholder, and hold early elections AS AGREED TO ALREADY. But the new government was rushing to ink a deal with the EU and the IMF, it was uncertain what elections would result in, so legality and representation be hanged.
Please give me a citation to show that the Parliament did not have the power to place an interim President.
The first agreement had elections as late as December, after removing Yanukovich the Parliament announced elections in May. So elections sooner. Keeping Yanukovich as a place holder was not going to happen after his orders got so many protesters killed.
Elections in May or December? Which one seems more like a stall tactic?
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
You keep making great points. BROVO
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Did you believe that Saddam had WMD? NO
Did you think that Assad used chemical weapons in Syria? YES
Were you were surprised by 9-11? YES (I thought the White House would be the target)
Did you predict the meltdown of 2008? YES (not the specific year though)
Were you convinced that Russia invaded Georgia unprovoked? YES
Have you been duped your entire life? MORE THAN I THOUGHT
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:Quote:
Please give me a citation to show that the Parliament did not have the power to place an interim President.
Why do I have to do your thinking for you?Quote:
On February 21, 2014 the parliament passed a law that reinstated the December 8, 2004 amendments of the constitution.[16] This was passed under simplified procedure without any decision of the relevant committee and was passed in the first and the second reading in one voting by 386 deputies.[16] The law was approved by 140 MPs of the Party of Regions, 89 MPs of Batkivshchyna, 40 MPs of UDAR, 32 of the Communist Party, and 50 independent lawmakers.[16] According to Radio Free Europe, however, the measure was not signed by the then-President Viktor Yanukovych, who allegedly was subsequently removed from office without the constitutionally required procedures.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_Ukraine
It's not grievances, MIKER. Gosh, I would have thought the intent would have been obvious, and not need explanation.
It's a short list of how people have been duped over and over again. Duped on 9-11, duped about Iraq, duped about Libya, Duped about Syria. Have you been duped your entire life? If you were lied to about many of these events, how do you know that the press isn't lying to you now???
The only person involved in that vote that thinks you are right is the guy they kicked out of office. Of course he is not going to sign it. I do not see you posting a quote from their constitution proving you right and their parliament wrong. Show us in the Ukrainian constitution where it says you are right. All you have done is show us the vote count.
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M52
Quote:This has been unproven, but the snipers were most likely under orders from "revolution", as they continue to operate in the Ukraine, against the pro-Russians. Why do you keep repeating a falsehood? Did you believe that Saddam had WMD as well? Was Noriega really a major drug-runner? Was the economy really "on fire" in 2007?
Keeping Yanukovich as a place holder was not going to happen after his orders got so many protesters killed.
Lookit, you guys are chock-a-block full of bull. You've been duped, and quite frankly aren't worth me taking any more of my day to argue bullshit. In four or five years - or perhaps more- this will be as clear as the lies that got us into Iraq. The only problem is, YOU'LL be five years too late.
AS USUAL!
Goodbye.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
M52Quote:This has been unproven, but the snipers were most likely under orders from "revolution", as they continue to operate in the Ukraine, against the pro-Russians. Why do you keep repeating a falsehood? Did you believe that Saddam had WMD as well? Was Noriega really a major drug-runner? Was the economy really "on fire" in 2007?
Keeping Yanukovich as a place holder was not going to happen after his orders got so many protesters killed.
Lookit, you guys are chock-a-block full of bull. You've been duped, and quite frankly aren't worth me taking any more of my day to argue bullshit. In four or five years - or perhaps more- this will be as clear as the lies that got us into Iraq. The only problem is, YOU'LL be five years too late.
The only person involved in that vote that thinks you are right is the guy they kicked out of office. Of course he is not going to sign it. I do not see you posting a quote from their constitution proving you right and their parliament wrong. Show us in the Ukrainian constitution where it says you are right. All you have done is show us the vote count.
SHOW US IN THE UKRAINE CONSTITUTION WHERE IS SAYS WHAT YOU ARE CLAMMING.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
M52Quote:This has been unproven, but the snipers were most likely under orders from "revolution", as they continue to operate in the Ukraine, against the pro-Russians. Why do you keep repeating a falsehood? Did you believe that Saddam had WMD as well? Was Noriega really a major drug-runner? Was the economy really "on fire" in 2007?
Keeping Yanukovich as a place holder was not going to happen after his orders got so many protesters killed.
Lookit, you guys are chock-a-block full of bull. You've been duped, and quite frankly aren't worth me taking any more of my day to argue bullshit. In four or five years - or perhaps more- this will be as clear as the lies that got us into Iraq. The only problem is, YOU'LL be five years too late.
In other words you can't back up your claim the the Ukrainian Parliament actions were illegal. You also don't have a comment about the fact that opposition set elections sooner than the agreement did.
All your other questions are simply noise.
I do not fear God, I fear the ignorance of man.
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Originally posted by MIKER:
You two keep getting smacked down no matter who it is you are dealing with
I did try to warn you. The Psycho Sisters feed off each other's vanity and delusions.
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:Quote:
Originally posted by MIKER:
You two keep getting smacked down no matter who it is you are dealing with
I did try to warn you. The Psycho Sisters feed off each other's vanity and delusions.
That is just too funny. And true.
They have to be socialists, I think that is why they called me a fascist and are trying so hard to defend Russia.
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Quote:Procedure not followed.
removal of President of Ukraine from a post in order of the special procedure
(??????????), set by the article 111 of this Constitution;
http://www.refworld.org/pdfid/44a280124.pdf
Now, do you feel stupid? You should. But, you're probably used to the feeling by now, which is why you had to descend to Jongsstraw's level. But, since you've had your head up someone else's ass for so many years, you're probably used to Jongsstraw's pigpen smell as well.
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