Batman Shooting
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physical intervention trainer - 'burly orderly'. Got it.
And THANKS for your 'expert' psychological observations.
SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.
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Originally posted by 1kiki:
Wish
Many years go I knew a young man who was probably the smartest person I'll ever meet in my life. After losing track of him, one day he suddenly showed up literally at my door - pale, extremely thin, shambling, mud on the back of his clothes like he'd been sleeping on the dirt, pupils fully dilated, deep in some silent internal conversation with himself, and off-topic - though not overtly 'crazy' - when he did speak with me. A few months later he committed suicide.
James Holmes' demeanor was remarkably similar, and I don't think you can fake pale skin and dilated pupils. While I think we need to wait for the complete diagnosis, I think it's rather premature to write off a psychotic break and put this all to fakery - don't you?
Also, FWIW, why don't you want to 'help his ass'? Is it too expensive for your tastes? Does that create a society too focused on people and not enough on business? Do you just want revenge, and, being too chicken to get a gun and blow him away yourself, you're content to let the machinery of society grind him to bits for you? And ready to watch with the satisfaction of one who's just had a tasty meal?
Wish is not the most empathic person ever. She wanted to torture drug affected mothers in a recent thread.
That being said, I guess there is a line that you cross, sad as it may be, whether you are mentally unstable or not, that means being away from others, maybe forever, is in order.
I do find it sad. This person was clearly brilliant, and there could have been a different outcome all round if some intervention had taken place. Maybe we will never know.
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I have little doubt that Holmes will now have to be isolated from people. I find that sad.
I find the loss of life sad.
I find our society of disposable people sad.
SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.
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physical intervention trainer - 'burly orderly'. Got it.
And THANKS for your 'expert' psychological observations.
And THANK YOU for the lack of refutation of ANY of what I said. And the ad hominem attacks. The PDF link is to the sales receipt that the vendor posted. You seem to have missed the day in debate class when they covered the fact that screeching like a howler monkey was not rebuttal. Thank God you were there the day they covered flinging poo.
"Burly orderly", yes. But for the record I also wrote the training manual that was used statewide for physical intervention, escalation and documentation. Additionally I was one of 3 people in my department that had to review all use of physical, mechanical or medical intervention.
So, how long were you a patient?
Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons
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Originally posted by CaveTroll:
So, we have the following opinions,
Guns kill people. (In which case, all of my guns are defective.) Cars kill even more people, every single day. Ted Kennedy's car killed a person. I guess we should outlaw cars. Can't trust 'em. They do things of their own volition.
SWEET JAYSUS SHUT UP!!!! That's it for me, I cant read the rest of your post. If I see this moronic fucking NRA soundbite trotted out once more, I will go postal myself. You realise its the stupist statement ever. See Jason Alexander's response a couple of posts up which you clearly didn't read. And try to be original next time.
Do inanimate objects in your little world spring to life and act on their own? You must be doing some really good drugs.
Kwindbago, hot air and angry electrons
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Magons, we never will know. As to the Troll..I read about as far as you did, and am equally sick of that damned parrotted talking point. I guess gunbunnies don't realize how totally irrelevant it is, given they keep right on saying it. The fact that either of us even got THAT far is probably a negative statement on both of our self-control in even bothering to READ what we should have known was coming...
And yes, I'm immeasurably saddened by the loss of a brilliant mind, too. It seems, from what one hears, that the nice, intelligent, achievers are either the victims or those who have slaughtered in dramatic style. When you hear about victims, more often than not it seems they had a lot to contribute and were snuffed out by gangs or ancillary to gang attacks, etc., and the worst multiple- or serial-killers seem to be proven to be of high intelligence as well, and sometimes over-achievers to boot. Interesting, that. And yes, I realize the norm is for people to speak of victims positively, but often their grades, accomplishments, etc., show the rosy descriptions of them are at least partly right.
Maybe it means being of higher-than-normal intelligence and achievement isn't especially healthy these days, eh? ;o)
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No supporter of gun control/restrictions has ever, ever made that claim, despite the fact that NRA drones continue to trot out that ridiculous line in refutation.
Try and make a decent argument without the sound bites. I dare you.
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"And THANK YOU for the lack of refutation of ANY of what I said."
Actually, I did post a refutation. And the same ideas were posted by several others. You had all sorts of opportunities to read those ideas. It looks like you can't read. I'm sorry for you that you can't read.
BTW, physical intervention training stresses DE-ESCALATION as the first response. I see you failed to get that concept. Or are too personally unstable to practice it. B/c all you seem to be able to conceptualize is "physical intervention, escalation and documentation." ie burly orderly
Oh, and to put it out there, I have not only never been hospitalized for anything at all, I have never been treated for psychological issues, and have never been diagnosed with them. You, I'm no so sure about. You seem to have literacy, attention and anger issues. You might want to get help with those.
And, as fun as it's been provoking you, I have more impotant things to do.
SignyM: I swear, if we really knew what was being decided about us in our absence, and how hosed the government is prepared to let us be, we would string them up.
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Oh, and to put it out there, I have not only never been hospitalized for anything at all, I have never been treated for psychological issues, and have never been diagnosed with them.
Not even multiple personality disorder?
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I was a physical intervention trainer. About half of my time was assigned to direct care on high risk wards. Forensic mostly, adult long term care and in at least one really scary case, adolescent and juvenile.
Hey, I know where CAVETROLL worked!
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Abuse of Brain Injured Americans Scandalizes U.S.
By David Armstrong - Jul 24, 2012 12:15 PM PT
...Staffers at his new home held him down and punched him in the face and groin, Price said. When Alopaeus’s efforts to transfer him stalled, Price said his desperation led him to a step aimed at speeding his release. He swallowed five fish hooks and 22 AA batteries he’d picked up during a patient outing at Wal-Mart. After emergency surgery to remove the objects, he was allowed to transfer to another facility.
Residents at the Florida Institute have often been abused, neglected and confined, according to 20 current and former patients and their family members, criminal charges, civil complaints and advocates for the disabled.
...On its website, the company calls itself a leader in brain- injury rehabilitation. In past statements it has said it vends “extremely high quality care to very difficult clients” aimed at returning them to their homes, doesn’t use seclusion and has “zero tolerance” for resident abuse.
Elbow Shots
Hardee County prosecutors have charged two FINR staffers with abusing Danny Silva, a 21-year-old autistic patient. Video of the alleged crime shows two large men flanking a smaller figure on a sofa as they punch, elbow and slap him at least 30 times. The blows often come after moans from the man in the middle, which appear to be making it hard for his assailants to hear the TV.
“Shut up, man,” they say in the video, taped by a FINR staffer, according to police. “You are getting on my damn nerves,” one of the hitters tells the smaller man between two elbow shots. A woman in nurse’s clothes shows up in the video to give the alleged victim his medicine.
... Employee McKinley Scott pulled autistic patient Gabriel Allen up from his seat and threw him to the ground last December in a second case, prosecutors say. A video in the case shows a man identified as Scott pushing Allen away from him on a couch, standing him up, kicking his legs out from under him and leaving him curled up on the floor next to a blinking Christmas tree. Scott, 48, has pleaded not guilty to an abuse charge. His lawyer didn’t return calls.
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