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Let's Try to Offend Kwicko!

POSTED BY: Kwicko
UPDATED: Sunday, June 24, 2012 22:49
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PIZMOBEACH

Monday, June 18, 2012 2:45 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:
So, big money question, why do you suppose you can't be offended?

Don't know, but it's been informative watching the responses and learning what others think is "offensive".

Perhaps I've realized that (a) I have no inherent right to not be offended, so whining about things that offend me is just more bitching and moaning, and (b) I've just lost some ability to be shocked at the behavior of my fellow man over the years. I've pretty much seen it all, and it hasn't harmed me.

I am the embodiment of "... but words will never hurt me." They are just words, after all.

To be fair I don't think any posters were *really* trying to offend you ('cept Jack). I think I could offend you if I really tried, but I really don't want to be offensive! I'd have to offend myself to do it, kind of a conundrum.

Dr. Beach is IN: I thought maybe you'd say that you had things or people in the past that you had invested serious emotions in, that were either broken or taken or lost, and to protect yourself from that pain ever happening again you decided that you just wouldn't invest those kinds of emotions, you'd wrap your psyche in an impenetrable blanket of emotional indifference... can't lose something if you don't have it.
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NIKI2

Monday, June 18, 2012 3:16 PM

Well, as to why not to be offended, for me at least it's been more about experience on the internet, and having been upset in the past until I finally "got it"--both the concept of Fuckwads on the net and the fact that it's really got nothing to do with ME. Nobody here can hurt me, tho' those I respect can sadden me sometimes by negative statements about me (those I don't respect don't bother me in the least), but that's about it. I don't know any of you IRL, people aren't necessarily the same on the internet as IRL, and nobody here is important enough to my life to have any impact. Dunno about Mike, but that's why I don't get offended.

It's not about having been hurt; I've learned lessons about THAT IRL, but that's a whole different thing for me from the internet.

ANTHONYT

Monday, June 18, 2012 3:22 PM

Hello,

I think this part of the forum largely exists because of behavior that people find offensive. Usually that behavior is being taken by political figures.

If I were a President, I could offend Mike by bombing somebody and asking him to pay for it.

And he'd come here to complain about my offensive acts.

--Anthony

Note to Self:
Raptor - women who want to control their reproductive processes are sluts.
Wulf - Niki is a stupid fucking bitch who should hurry up and die.
Never forget what these men are.
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KWICKO

Monday, June 18, 2012 4:48 PM

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Originally posted by ANTHONYT:
Hello,

I think this part of the forum largely exists because of behavior that people find offensive. Usually that behavior is being taken by political figures.

If I were a President, I could offend Mike by bombing somebody and asking him to pay for it.

And he'd come here to complain about my offensive acts.

--Anthony

Bingo. It does not offend me when I'm asked to help my fellow man, even at cost to myself. Given the choice, it's the choice I'd make for myself anyway.

It DOES offend me when I'm asked to foot the bill for someone else killing my fellow man who has done nothing to harm me or mine. It's offensive in the same way that the old adage about the Chinese executing prisoners and then billing their families for the bullets used is offensive.

There are a great number of things in this world I find objectionable, or distasteful, but that's pretty much the only thing I find truly offensive: the wholesale, mass killing of others "in my name", and then billing me for the privilege, as if I ever had any fucking say in the matter.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

KWICKO

Monday, June 18, 2012 5:29 PM

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Originally posted by pizmobeach:

Dr. Beach is IN: I thought maybe you'd say that you had things or people in the past that you had invested serious emotions in, that were either broken or taken or lost, and to protect yourself from that pain ever happening again you decided that you just wouldn't invest those kinds of emotions, you'd wrap your psyche in an impenetrable blanket of emotional indifference... can't lose something if you don't have it.

There's something to that, too. In a sense, I had all the humanity burned out of me early on, or at least that's what was attempted. It didn't quite work, though - I merely hid it away and buried it quite deep, but it's still there.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

1KIKI

Monday, June 18, 2012 5:33 PM

"Usually that behavior is being taken by political figures."

I find corporate figures to be much more offensive.

NIKI2

Monday, June 18, 2012 8:43 PM

So Anthony wins. None of the rest of us thought of that; what does that say about us, I wonder? That we thought he'd be offended by personal insults or insults to Firefly, and never thought about what is TRULY offensive in this world? Not just the paying for it, either, but how governments and militaries have the right to massive slaughter. In other words, what's offensive IN REAL LIFE.

Interesting.

BYTEMITE

Monday, June 18, 2012 8:55 PM

Anthony technically tried both, and was successful with his war point. Most of us weren't serious, I was trying to get a reaction out of whoever wanted to take the bait.

KWICKO

Monday, June 18, 2012 11:50 PM

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Originally posted by 1kiki:
"Usually that behavior is being taken by political figures."

I find corporate figures to be much more offensive.

I find that the latter often gives the orders to the former. If there's killing to be done, it's easier for corporate figures to have political figures give the order than it is for them to do the work themselves. They've even outsources slaughter to the lowest bidder.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy

KWICKO

Tuesday, June 19, 2012 12:22 AM

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Originally posted by Niki2:
So Anthony wins. None of the rest of us thought of that; what does that say about us, I wonder? That we thought he'd be offended by personal insults or insults to Firefly, and never thought about what is TRULY offensive in this world? Not just the paying for it, either, but how governments and militaries have the right to massive slaughter. In other words, what's offensive IN REAL LIFE.

Interesting.

I'm not sure what it says about "us" in general, or as a species, but for me, it illustrates quite vividly the idea that words cannot offend me; it's the actions which count. It's not what we SAY that can help or hurt, but rather what we DO.

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence [sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero

"I've not watched the video either, or am incapable of intellectually dealing with the substance of this thread, so I'll instead act like a juvenile and claim victory..." - Rappy