Is There Any Charactor On FireFly that annoys you?

POSTED BY: piratejenny
UPDATED: Wednesday, September 8, 2004 01:02
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TDTMF

Monday, August 30, 2004 3:07 PM

how about "plain ol' jerk"...does that fit a little better?

have never understood people that waste energy on such unimportant sh*t.

td

mal to jayne: well, my days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle

LTNOWIS

Monday, August 30, 2004 3:22 PM

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Most of the villains are too one-dimensional. Jubal talks too much to be an effective bad guy. Niska is too twisted on torture to be credible as a monopolist. The Badger is too damn petty. Blue Hands are too gruesome.

Jubal's talking is what makes him a pretty complex guy, instead of a faceless drone. Niska's torture/philosophy makes him more than a ruthless bad guy, instead making him a ruthless sadistic bad guy looking to start a book club. Badger's not really a villain, in the sense that he doesn't work directly against the crew. The Blue Hands are 1-D, creepy, robots, but that's a nice change for me.

DESANGRO

Monday, August 30, 2004 5:51 PM

I never liked Inara very much until I saw "Trash". That rocked. I didn't like Saffron, ever. She was an evil little thing. Hopefully she's currently the guest of an Alliance penal institution, and for an extended stay, too! Tracy's motivations were rather confusing in "The Message"; first he was flirting with Kaylee, then drawing a gun on her-- what's up with that? Richard Burgi was great as the villain, though. Loved him in Starship Troopers 2 and the first season of 24, and he made for a good villain in Firefly.

I didn't like "Heart of Gold". Least favorite ep ever, and by connection I didn't like any of the characters introduced in it.

SIKKUKUT

Monday, August 30, 2004 7:41 PM

Book sometimes rubs me the wrong way, actually. Not because of anything inherent in his character, but because of the way he is so often handled in the episodes. It just always feels to me like there's an undercurrent of disrespect for his worldview in a way that there isn't for any other character. When Jayne explains his worldview in Jaynestown, flawed as it is ("There ain't people like that. There's just people like me."), we listen. When, earlier in the same episode, Book earnestly explains that "You don't fix faith, River. It fixes you," this doesn't get nearly the same weight, and that storyline quickly bogs down into a joke. The hair thing was funny, sure, but it bugs the hell out of me every time, because I was much more interested in the results of their conversation.

The other, related issue I have with Book is that the whole I'm-secretly-badass thing really overwhelms everything else about him at times. On the other hand, for being secretly a badass, he's pretty bumbling. He gets his ass kicked by Early, then lies about it (which REALLY bugged me), he mishandles River, he doesn't know what to do in the pilot at the end of the episode, he doesn't know what to do in Out of Gas when they're going to die... he does get to be awesome sometimes (War Stories and the end of The Message come to mind), but usually because he's badass, not because he's a shepherd.

So there's my issue, not with a character, but with the handling of the character.

For the record, when I showed my friends the eps, they were really annoyed by River until... jeeze, I think it might have been Ariel, or even War Stories. They called her "useless." War Stories especially sort of changed their minds on that...

And as for grammar, use as much of it as you want (I certainly do), but unless other people's lack thereof seriously affects your ability to read the post, leave them alone. Grammar on the Internet, for good or for ill, is very much a personal choice.

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"You're mean. Firefly's making me reconsider my lifelong devotion to Star Trek." --My mother

CORNCOBB

Monday, August 30, 2004 8:05 PM

ATHerton annoyed the heck out of me. He was so pompous. Out of the regulars Inara was the only character who sometimes annoys me, and only sometimes. I just don't get why she won't admit to loving Mal. Plus I'm like Mal in that I don't see the appeal of high-class society (fancy balls, airs-and-graces, that kind of thing).But I like her most of the time.

P.S. I'm gonna stick my nose in and try to play peacemaker. Pirate Jenny, Inevitablebetrayal, and co: please don't bicker. You've obviously upset each other, but it seems like it was accidentle. It happens. Everyone on this site usually gets on so well, it seems a shame to see animosity

"Gorramit Mal... I've forgotten my line."

SHINYSEVEN

Monday, August 30, 2004 10:45 PM

River annoys me, but then Drusilla annoyed me on BtVS.

BTW, "Eats, Shoots and Leaves" sounds like a capsule review of Jayne's role in Heart of Gold.

INEVITABLEBETRAYAL

Monday, August 30, 2004 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by tdtmf:
how about "plain ol' jerk"...does that fit a little better?

have never understood people that waste energy on such unimportant sh*t.

Once again, what's with the gorram insults? As stated above, I expect better out of the people that post here. I never insulted anyway. Merely poked a little fun at Jenny. Since when is that a crime? Now I'm a "jerk", who's being compared to Mussolini, for Pete's sake! Ridiculous!

I'm sorry if it offends those on the board, but the way that you write isn't unimportant. There're only two ways of evaluating a message-board denizen: 1) his/her ideas, 2) his/her writing. That's it. And the hell of it is that if one's writing is for shit, one's ideas will never come through in the first place! So excuse the hell out of me if I punctuate and capitalize.

I guess the lesson here is that you get flamed for teasing people on the Firefly boards. What a let down. I'll make sure never to elucidate my opinion--or make a joke--ever again.

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I wish I had a magical wish-granting plank.

FEMALEJAYNE

Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:10 AM

I don't think the whole Jaynee/Kaylee thing would be good because Jayne doesn't seem to be the kind of guy to hang around, I think Jayne sees love as weakness and you gotta take care of yourself (even though he takes care of his family etc) I think Jayne would bring Kaylee down and make her sad. Jayne may carry a tourch but not lite the fire. He'll have the dreams, but not willing to leave someone with his problems.
I don't know if anyone really bothers me because they all have their places and with out one of the show wouldn't work. I think Book annoys me because he's so secretive, but that makes him interesting.

With Hope because love is nothing without hope.

SHINY

Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:38 AM

>Are There Any Charactors On FireFly that annoys you?<

The roaches. Definitely the roaches. ;)

Jayne, your mouth is talkin. Might want to look into that.

JK

Tuesday, August 31, 2004 12:52 AM

I have to admit, none of the characters annoyed me. They were all pretty cool, even if I didn't like them (of course, in those cases, I wasn't meant to like them e.g. Saffron).

Have to say, I'm with Inevitable on the whole punctuation/grammar thing. There's a line when sloppy punctuation (a lifestyle choice thing, and one I'm fine with) becomes incomprehensibility. I don't like having to decode what someone else is saying. I'm not trying to be rude or offend anyone, but there it is.

JK

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