How to win an argument with Liberals-Progressives-Socialists-etc...

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SKYDIVELIFE

Thursday, June 9, 2011 6:39 PM

Oh, btw.

I watched the videos Wulfenstar put up.

They are kind of funny. Every one of them begins with the author saying "Oh no, why?"

But I agree with some people here who have said that he shouldn't use URLs as a way to make his point.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, June 9, 2011 6:57 PM

Indeed, welcome to the socio-political moshpit of RWED, good fortune and remember, in the end it's all just this...

So don't let it get your blood pressure up none, ehe?

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

TERRAN57

Thursday, June 9, 2011 7:43 PM

Wulfenstar, sounds German like the National Socialist Party. A Hitler fan?

Or are you part of the Grand Oil Party. Hope you make good $$$ or those insurance company death panels will be waiting for you at 65. You can use your Republican reimbursement card to help pay your final costs as its sure not going to be enough to pay your health care costs. Heil Ryan

Terran57

SKYDIVELIFE

Thursday, June 9, 2011 7:47 PM

Terran57, I would remind you of this,

Godwin's law (also known as Godwin's Rule of Nazi Analogies or Godwin's Law of Nazi Analogies)[1][2] is a humorous observation made by Mike Godwin in 1990[2] which has become an Internet adage. It states: "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1 (100%)."[3][2] In other words, Godwin put forth the hyperbolic observation that, given enough time, in any online discussion—regardless of topic or scope—someone inevitably criticizes some point made in the discussion by comparing it to beliefs held by Hitler and the Nazis.

TERRAN57

Thursday, June 9, 2011 7:55 PM

When it's true it's true :-)

Terran57

TERRAN57

Thursday, June 9, 2011 8:12 PM

My basis by the way was reading the garbage that Wulf has spammed on this site. I gave another op-ed, much longer, but being cherry at this site is is floating in the virtual netherworld. It was not Nazi in origin. Maybe it will show up some day or pop into another diminsion. The bottom line of the first is we need progressives if we are ever to reach a level 1 civilization, but we need moderates to counter an abuse of power. Conservetives either like Falwell or bin Laden, can retard civilzations advance. That is unless they are willing to compromise, then they too can be a force for good and bring the entire system into balance.

Bottom line, without progressives in moderation, there will be no firefly verse, no star trek and we as a civilization and possibly species will die and all our learning and blood spilled will be in vain.

Science costs big $$$, so does education and taking care of our elders. The one thing we don't need or want is war which is counter-productive. Bush spent a trillion $ on Iraq. About the same (actually less) as the stimulus. That money could have done much more here at home that sprawled out over the desert. As a strong states rights advocate and a fomer part of the shovel brigade, I encorage you to seek a middle ground and squell the spammer Wulf, who only is trying to piss people off rather than debate. Also, isn't this site about Firefly? Comparisons to the Alliance and Browncoats I understand, but this Wulf guy is just another Rush trying to piss off anybody that disagrees with him.

Does he actually look forward to battle of Serenity Valley :-). The next 100 years will be pivitol to the survival of the human species, and all he is concerned with is the next election cycle. Moderation is the key. I still must ask Wulf if he gets his way, will he say Heil Ryan?

Terran57
J. Thompson D.Div

SKYDIVELIFE

Thursday, June 9, 2011 8:51 PM

I don't know anyone here enough to defend them, so Wulf is on his own.

I agree that Bush was wrong, in that he used the attacks to take away our freedoms, and create a SS-style "Homeland Security".

But I havn't seen President Obama reverse these things.

BYTEMITE

Thursday, June 9, 2011 9:24 PM

Oh dear. Now there's two.

Terran, I think it may be too late for the space program. The elites both corporate and political got their claws in, because they realized that if humanity gets into space, we'll no longer be under their jurisdiction or buying their stuff.

They're petty enough that they'll trap us all here and kill us off by pollution, so long as they don't lose their death grip on their control and their feelings of superiority.

Humanity was born on this world, and I have great fear that we are going to die on this world as well. And soon.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, June 9, 2011 9:30 PM

Oh irony - this just landed in my inbox.

Homeowners use car to chase off suspected burglars
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/06/08/us-crime-tennessee-idUSTRE75
746220110608

Quote:
Michael Harris and Sally Michello were greeted by gunfire from one of the trio of intruders when they arrived at their home in Rutherford County, just south of Nashville, according to Sheriff's Department spokeswoman Lisa Marchesoni.

The burglars fled after one of them was struck by the car. No one was injured by the gunfire, but bullets did strike the door frame of the couple's vehicle, said Criminal Investigations Division Commander Preble Acton.

The victims were defending themselves by using their vehicle to ward off the intruders, said Cpl. Scott Martin. Police said no one was seriously injured.

Guess a car does make a pretty good CCW, but getting one into a holster might be a problem.

-Frem

I do not serve the Blind God.

RIONAEIRE

Thursday, June 9, 2011 10:54 PM

That is ironic Frem.

Homeschooling: My primary problem is that often home schooled kids don't get the oppertunities to socialize that other kids get. This is why I am fine with homeschool co ops, where several families get together and home school their kids together, that way they kids are with other kids and get more of those oppertunities. I believe that at least half of the benefit of going to a school is that oppertunity to socialize and learn how its done. So in my opinion a home school co op can meet those needs in the right circumstances. Unfortunately so many kids I know don't play with their neighbors anymore. When I was little I always played with the neighbor kids. My little brother never does and my mother doesn't see any reason to encourage him to because she is not very sociable anymore and seems to not see the need for him to be. At least he goes to school and has friends there.

My best friend had to take third grade over again once she got into school because she'd been homeschooled and her mom apparently wasn't suited to teaching, plus she had some unique educational needs as a little girl that weren't being met at home. But she's still all for homeschooling. Her ideal system of educating children would be home school through elementary school, home school co op in middle school and regular public school in high school. I said why not just do a home school co op from the beginning and she doesn't get it. Oh well.

As everyone knows I'm totally pro public school. If a parent wants to send their kid to private school or home school (hopefully with a co op, crossing my fingers) then they certainly can do that, they have that right. But I will always be a staunch public school supporter. Could public schools be run by the state instead of the federal government? That would be fine with me, as long as there is always public school available to all children.

SkyDive, thanks for explaining what a Godwyn is, people have been saying it for months since I've joined but I never could figure out what it was and didn't want to ask because that felt like a waste of time, so thanks.

Terran, I'm a big fan of moderation too.

You know this thread has more posts than AI In A Box? Go figure.
:l)

"A completely coherant River means writers don't deliver" KatTaya

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