'...I'm Batman.'
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 21:48
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:There was a scene in Mission Impossible III where an explosion knocked Tom Cruise back into a car, and they did it mostly with ropes, then CGI took them out, so it looked great, and Tom was suitably frazzled for the next few moments. BUT, think how YOU would react in that situation...
Originally posted by Storymark:
I responded to someone else doing so, with story logic. I'm no scientist.
I'd be on the ground for at least a minute, probably more. I wouldn't be able to stand correctly for a few minutes, let alone run.
And this is all assuming I didn't break my neck hitting the car.
A totally realistic movie with humans just in great shape isn't possible anymore, let alone superheroes wearing body armour...
I don't know that this is a fair comparison. YOU may not have been able to stand after that - but he wasn't playing a regular Joe... he was playing a highly trained and hardened super-spy.
It's not like he was blasted 3 feet into the metal, it was a shockwave effect - something completely within the realm of believability with a human body. Didn't strike me as implausible. Certainly not on the scale of a man pulling High-G maneuvers and stops FAR beyond what the human body can cope with.
You want something more in-line with the impossible - I'd go with the 'Nuke the fridge' scene.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:That tested even MY patience, and you KNOW I can accept a lot. Indy movies strike as significantly more grounded in 'reality' than Batman or Iron Man movies, so that scene REALLY pissed me off the first time I saw it.
Originally posted by Storymark:
You want something more in-line with the impossible - I'd go with the 'Nuke the fridge' scene.
Later I realized it was just that God didn't want him to die yet.
yeah, that's it.....
EDIT TO ADD: Hooooboy, I just re-read this and NEED to 'splain something! Not that Demons from the Lost Arc are more believable than anything in BB or TDK, just that the NON-MYSTICAL stuff seems more so- like the Indy gets dragged/Indy gets hurt kinda thing. Or the he-can't-drop-the-big-dude-with-one-punch thing. Savy?

The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
EDIT TO ADD: Hooooboy, I just re-read this and NEED to 'splain something! Not that Demons from the Lost Arc are more believable than anything in BB or TDK, just that the NON-MYSTICAL stuff seems more so- like the Indy gets dragged/Indy gets hurt kinda thing. Or the he-can't-drop-the-big-dude-with-one-punch thing. Savy?
The laughing Chrisisall
I totally get you. Yes, Indy has the outlandish and supernatural as part of his world, but they are things unto themselves. The rest of the world as portrayed in those flicks is still a fairly "real" place where punches hurt and bones can be broken.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Later I realized it was just that God didn't want him to die yet.
yeah, that's it.....
Remember in The Last Crusade, when he drank from the Grail? Didn't that bestow immortality?
For all we know he did die when the fridge landed --then immediately revived, Highlander-style.
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
Later I realized it was just that God didn't want him to die yet.
yeah, that's it.....
Remember in The Last Crusade, when he drank from the Grail? Didn't that bestow immortality?
For all we know he did die when the fridge landed --then immediately revived, Highlander-style.
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
The power didn't reach past the seal.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Dang, and that sounded like the best explanation yet!!!!! GRRRRR...
The laughing Chrisisall
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@ Somnambulist- *just* watched a *good* transfer of Batman Returns and WOW, I just LOVE the re-design of Keaton's Bat-suit!!! I totally forgot how GREAT it looked!!!
And the editing/pace of the flick is much better.
Still, big penguins with dudes in costumes at the end, but whatever. BR is now easily on par with the first film for me!
The first two Burton movies are still my favourites, after all.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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@ Somnambulist- *just* watched a *good* transfer of Batman Returns and WOW, I just LOVE the re-design of Keaton's Bat-suit!!! I totally forgot how GREAT it looked!!!
And the editing/pace of the flick is much better.
Still, big penguins with dudes in costumes at the end, but whatever. BR is now easily on par with the first film for me!
The first two Burton movies are still my favourites, after all.
Hey good to hear Chris. I still think that flick endures but I will conceed you have to be into the twisted logic for it to work for you... Luckily most of the time I am and to some extent that's helped by the ever brilliant DeVito who is so passionate about the part that it almost doesn't matter how absurd things become. He's absolutely convincing. Kudos to Pfieffer too who is quite amazing in her duality.
I like the angle this one took, and it feels more Burton than the previous one. Less Blockbuster.
It's beautifully filmed, stylized to the extent of the old German expressionst movies of the 30's and has a wonderful orchestral score. The opening scene with Birth of A Penguin is extraordary given there's no dialogue to help the narrative. It's all masterfully done with the notes of Mr Elfman making you feel at once sad and horrified of what lurks within the baby basket. Genius!
Did you catch the scene I mentioned where Batman is looking on, as the Circus gang run riot and two goons are terrorising an old lady? Batman enters the frame just watching events unfold! Not looking to help her at all, just waiting to engage with the thugs. Perfect character moment.
Keaton's Batman is less hero than Bale's but more furious avenger!

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The part that really made me jump was when Batman stuck the bomb it the strong dude's pants, then kicked him down the sewer! That was SO cold! He even smiled. Chilling.
Batman was excellent superhero adventure IMO.
Batman Returns was twisted high superhero art.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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The part that really made me jump was when Batman stuck the bomb it the strong dude's pants, then kicked him down the sewer! That was SO cold! He even smiled. Chilling.
Batman was excellent superhero adventure IMO.
Batman Returns was twisted high superhero art.
...Now I wanna see them again!

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