'...I'm Batman.'
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 21:48
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:I'm officially lost here...
Originally posted by Storymark:
And yet you see Jack's "Jack at 11" as some great performance?
?
The laughing Chrisisall
You tout Nicholson's performance in Batman '89 as this watershed performance - and while I'll agree it's entertaining, it never struck me as much more than Jack being Jack - just REALLY over-the-top Jack.
He was "the" Joker in my mind for all of about 3 years, until Mark Hammill blew him away with just voicework. Because he created a performance, instead of just hamming it up.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Oh, and for what it's worth, Keaton is my favorite live-action Batman. He played that character best. I didn't like his Wayne, and I don't think the movies have aged well at all (I tend to enjoy Returns more these days, as find '89 to be rather ponderous and too stagey), but he's still the best Bat.
I think the Nolan films are a big step up over the Burton ones in most respects, and prefer both Begins and TDK to any of the older films; but I still adore the production design and theme from that first flick.
And no, I don't care for Bale's Batman voice. He does a great job otherwise - but the voice is way over the top.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by Cybersnark:Quote:
Originally posted by LiLi:
I've certainly never heard of something like memory cloth,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_material
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_memory_polymer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smart_rubber
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dielectric_elastomers
http://news.discovery.com/tech/t-shirt-body-armor-tank.html
Well damn, that's pretty cool.
Facts are stubborn things.
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Quote:If I touted it as such, I'll retract it here. Having JUST seen it with Sonisall, I'd have to say you're more or less correct. It was Jack being crazy. But it worked well enough in the movie.
Originally posted by Storymark:
You tout Nicholson's performance in Batman '89 as this watershed performance - and while I'll agree it's entertaining, it never struck me as much more than Jack being Jack - just REALLY over-the-top Jack.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:I don't disagree with this particular point, sir.
Originally posted by Storymark:
I think the Nolan films are a big step up over the Burton ones in most respects
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:I kind of enjoyed the split personality Reeve brought to the Superman movies; in those cases, Kent was the role he played to protect Kal-El/Superman, the real person. Reeve brought it off well, but when they tried to continue it a bit with Routh in the latest flick, I didn't like it at all. They should have gone the 'Lois & Clark' route on that movie- it may have saved it.
Originally posted by Cybersnark:
In Metropolis, Clark Kent is the real person, while "Superman" is just a costume he wears.
The biggest single flaw in Batman & Robin was that they wanted BOTH Batman & Wayne to be the real guys. That part failed miserably. If they wanted Wayne to be 'real', then Batman should have been waaay out there. You can't have your bat-cake, and eat it too. That makes for guano.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
The biggest single flaw in Batman & Robin was that they wanted BOTH Batman & Wayne to be the real guys. That part failed miserably. If they wanted Wayne to be 'real', then Batman should have been waaay out there. You can't have your bat-cake, and eat it too. That makes for guano.
Well, not to defent that piece of go-se, but that was at least concpetually the correct way to go with that movie, as the whole thematic thrust and literal climax (that came out dirtier than I had planned) of Batman Forever was about him reconciling and accepting both sides of his life. It would have been a cheat if they had ignored that going into part 4.
Now, granted, they botched it about as much as they possibly could. But that one element, was conceptually sound, I feel.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:Can we compare B&R 'botched' lists here, Story?
Originally posted by Storymark:
Now, granted, they botched it about as much as they possibly could. But that one element, was conceptually sound, I feel.
Bat nipples.
Batmobile (Fugly beyond belief- chicks do not FIT IN, or love the car).
Needlessly blinding colours.
Bat skates /Bat hockey.
Bat sky surfing & no death.
I won't touch the freezing Gotham peeps & thawing them out...
That said, i still like the film on occasion for a big laff. Plus, the Bruce/Alfred scenes are really very good, IMO.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Yep, all things that were horrible.
Though the Bat-Nipples first cropped up in Forever.
And I agree the Bruce/Alfred scenes are effective. Cloony was the best Bruce Wayne in some ways (Wayne ONLY - I consider him the worst Bat. But that's about the only good I can say about it.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Quote:Absolutely. Like I said, the movie is mainly only good for laffs.
Originally posted by Storymark:
I consider him the worst Bat.
Ahnult was great! HAHAhahahahaha!!! What overacting!!! If it weren't for him, I'd probably not own the special edition.
Yeah, I'm twisted that way.
Escape From LA cracks me up even harder...
The admittedly strange Chrisisall
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