Another 'Religion of Peace' moment, brought to you by.....yep, ISLAM!
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Wednesday, February 12, 2025 15:05
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Originally posted by AnthonyT:
Hello,
Actually, I believe the argument is that they are all assholes, or at least all have assholes.
--Anthony
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Reading through this whole thread, once again Mince and Auraptor have the only logical and rational argument. The rest of you sound like irrational liberals trying to compare apples to whales. Therefore, the only thing I will add to this thread is a thought to Anthony. If they are all assholes and have assholes maybe you could steer them to mince's post about using said assholes as drug factories. Jenkem.. life changing.
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I agree 100% Frem, and feel the same as you do.
It goes even further, too. When doing things via legal methods doesn't work, they are quite adept at finding other ways, again sans violence. Look how difficult it is for a woman to get an abortion in our country? It's still LEGAL, but the law does no good when one can find other ways of making it difficult to OBTAIN an abortion.
You probably already know about this one, just recently:Quote:
There go 17 of the 21 remaining abortion clinics in Virginia, if he makes it work.
Virginia abortion rights advocates saw it coming. After Ken Cuccinelli, a rising Republican star known for his hard-line stances on most social issues, was elected state attorney general last year, they knew it was only a matter of time before he zeroed in on abortion.
Earlier this week, Cuccinelli issued a legal opinion advising the state of Virginia to tighten regulation of abortion clinics, holding them to the same standards as hospitals. Abortion-rights groups believe that these regulations would force the majority of the state's clinics out of business.
Cucinelli's tactic is not new. In 2001, Mother Jones ran a story about the rise of what abortion rights advocates call TRAP laws, short for Targeted Regulation of Abortion Providers. The article, written by Barry Yeoman and titled "The Quiet War on Abortion," detailed the anti-abortion movement's shift from targeting the legality of the procedure to applying pressure on its providers:Quote:
According to NARAL Pro-Choice America, varying degrees of TRAP laws have passed in 44 states plus the District of Columbia. While he was a Virginia state senator, Cuccinelli pushed for the passage of stringent new regulation of abortion clinics. Tarina Keene, the executive director of NARAL Pro-Choice Virginia, explained that Cuccinelli's previous efforts were stymied by a slim Democratic majority in the state Senate that blocked his proposals from reaching the floor. She is not surprised that he is using his current post to try to circumvent the legislature to achieve his longstanding goals.
The new stealth strategy has its genesis in the 1992 U.S. Supreme Court decision Planned Parenthood v. Casey. The ruling reaffirmed 1973's Roe v. Wade, signaling that overt bans on abortion were unlikely to pass constitutional muster. But it also declared for the first time that states have some authority to regulate abortion clinics, as long as they don't place an "undue burden" on women's access to abortions.
The Casey decision started abortion opponents rethinking their tactics. Since direct assaults on Roe wouldn't fly, "there had to be a shift in strategy by regulation on the outskirts of abortion," says Dorinda Bordlee, staff counsel for Americans United for Life. That's when leaders developed a new approach: Couch the issue in terms of women's health. By claiming that abortions take place in dirty facilities and cause such illnesses as depression and breast cancer, right-to-lifers realized they could subtly move the focus of the debate.
Yes, they're quite active still and will always be with us no doubt. Sickening...and of course Republicans want the government OUT of our private lives...and on and on and on...
Hippie Operative Nikovich Nikita Nicovna Talibani,
Contracted Agent of Veritas Oilspillus, code name “Nike”,
signing off 
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Goddamn it, I have been associated with Kane and Auraptor. I do not agree with them, I am guilty by association, I am heartbroken. I do not believe that Islam is any more inherently wicked that Christianity, only that Islam as practiced by Jihadists is more pernicious than Christianity as practiced by Fred Phelps. There is nothing left for me to do but go hit the Jenkem bottle.
Let's go get high on sewage, Kane.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Actually, some are denying the existence of Muslim extremists, every time they try to equate such evil to Christian "extremists".
Prove it, or withdraw that ridiculous accusation. Show me where ANYONE has denied the existence of Muslim extremists.
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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"I'm curious if there is a way to argue the point of Islam being peaceful or violent or whatever, without the need to compare it to Christianity and how more, less, or equal they measure in peace and violence?"
Hello,
Yes, this can be done.
The Quran is the story of a selfish, arrogant, egotistical entity who created the world and peopled it. He then set those people against one another and their own built-in desires while insisting that they praise him for it. This results in large scale violence and bloodshed for the majority, and many unhappy endings. A few are selected by the creator to live in an idealized paradise.
On the whole, it is a violent, bloodthirsty, and immoral bastard of a book. It is peppered with passages that give lip-service to good behavior and kindness, but the preponderance of actual events speaks against this. Any religion or philosophy derived from this book would have to interpret its contents creatively or use its passages selectively in order to create a system of belief that is either 'good' or at least 'non contradictory.' Otherwise the work is a mess, with any 'common theme' subverted at various points by happenings or creator-demands that appear to be in opposition to the majority of the narrative. All in all, if one applies an objective lens, one can only conclude that the divinity of the story is either sadistic, insane, or a child learning and changing right alongside his creation.
This is my Book Report on the Quran, without referencing any other religion or religious text.
--Anthony
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Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
Religions do not commit atrocities, people do.
And that, my dear Trader, is entirely the point. Congrats on being among the first to actually get it.
Point out an atrocity committed by "Islam", and I can as easily point out an atrocity committed by "Christianity" (and I haven't even mentioned our "crusade" - Bush's word, not mine - against Iraq).
But nobody wants to hear that argument, nobody wants to admit that Christians have been every bit as much the monsters as anyone else. Point out the epic humanity-fails in the name of Christianity, and they are very quick to point out that that isn't the whole religion.
And so far, not one other poster around here has agreed that if we can't allow a "mosque" (which isn't a mosque at all, any more than a battleship is a church) to be built near ground zero, then certainly we shouldn't allow churches to be built... well, ANYWHERE, when you think about it, because we're never more than a couple blocks from where some Native Americans were wiped out by "good Christian folks" in this country.
Islam didn't commit 9/11. People did. They're dead. This alleged "mosque" has no connection to them. If it did, I've no doubt that Imam Rauf would be sitting in Gitmo now, not charged, but not free either.
And there's another building right in New York, close to Ground Zero, that's known for spewing nothing but hatred, lies, and propaganda, and is linked to terrorism at least as much as Imam Rauf is: it's called "Fox News Studios".
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Goddamn it, I have been associated with Kane and Auraptor. I do not agree with them, I am guilty by association, I am heartbroken. I do not believe that Islam is any more inherently wicked that Christianity, only that Islam as practiced by Jihadists is more pernicious than Christianity as practiced by Fred Phelps. There is nothing left for me to do but go hit the Jenkem bottle.
Let's go get high on sewage, Kane.
I never said any of what you just said i said but seeing I am high on my own sewage i will have to agree to disagree and am evil and have never known how to punctuate but am worse now than ever because my sewage is great.....Go Muslims!!!!!
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*staggers away from thread, fecal matter on face, huge ammount of jenkem in lungs, holding kane's hand*
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Originally posted by Kwicko:Quote:
Originally posted by TheHappyTrader:
Religions do not commit atrocities, people do.
And that, my dear Trader, is entirely the point. Congrats on being among the first to actually get it.
Point out an atrocity committed by "Islam", and I can as easily point out an atrocity committed by "Christianity" (and I haven't even mentioned our "crusade" - Bush's word, not mine - against Iraq).
But nobody wants to hear that argument, nobody wants to admit that Christians have been every bit as much the monsters as anyone else. Point out the epic humanity-fails in the name of Christianity, and they are very quick to point out that that isn't the whole religion.
And so far, not one other poster around here has agreed that if we can't allow a "mosque" (which isn't a mosque at all, any more than a battleship is a church) to be built near ground zero, then certainly we shouldn't allow churches to be built... well, ANYWHERE, when you think about it, because we're never more than a couple blocks from where some Native Americans were wiped out by "good Christian folks" in this country.
Islam didn't commit 9/11. People did. They're dead. This alleged "mosque" has no connection to them. If it did, I've no doubt that Imam Rauf would be sitting in Gitmo now, not charged, but not free either.
And there's another building right in New York, close to Ground Zero, that's known for spewing nothing but hatred, lies, and propaganda, and is linked to terrorism at least as much as Imam Rauf is: it's called "Fox News Studios".
AURaptor's Greatest Hits:
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 20:32 To AnthonyT:
Go fuck yourself.
On this matter, make no mistake. I want you to go fuck yourself long and hard, as well as anyone who agrees with you. I got no use for you.
Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
Sure. Niki already has a post about really really old atrocities committed by Christians. That you missed Mince's perfectly stated posts is not a wonder at all, what else would I expect from a gay, anti-logical, anti-American...shipping clerk. What do you ship? I think you should be investigated. Let's talk about now. Let's stay relevant...Inhale the shit you spew here and I will guarantee it will change your life...just add a couple rotten sardines to your bottle of sewage.
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Huh, interesting. Oh and I wasn't calling you out or anything, was just getting sick of the all the "yeah but christian's are worse" arguments. Thanks :)
Maybe Islam isn't so peaceful after all, but I'll wait until I've done personal research into it before committing to that opinion.
Edit: peaceful origins or no, it's still people responsible, regardless
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