Another 'Religion of Peace' moment, brought to you by.....yep, ISLAM!
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The city council already voted unanimously to allow it. This issue was over as far as the locals were concerned, a year ago.
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Shiny posted:
"Religion of Peace" - another that produce Eric Rudolph; killing people because he opposed abortions.
Yup. I pointed out Timothy McVeigh as another. He was born and raised Catholic. He died a Catholic, receiving the Anointing of the Sick just minutes before his execution. And in between, he was heavily influenced by the Christian Identity movement, and repeatedly tried to make contact with its main stronghold in Elohim City, Oklahoma.
Nobody brings him up as a radical religious extremist because it would raise some uncomfortable questions about our country, I think.
Quoth Michael Franti,
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It's not a war against evil
It's really just revenge
Waged on the poorest by the same rich men
Fight terrorists wherever they be found
But why you not bombing tim mcveigh's hometown?
You can say what you want
propaganda, television
But all bombing is terrorism
We can chase down all our enemies
We can bring them to their knees
We can bomb the world to pieces
But we can't bomb it into peace
[ Michael Franti & Spearhead, Bomb the World ]
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The city council already voted unanimously to allow it. This issue was over as far as the locals were concerned, a year ago.
Hello,
That's quite correct, Mike. Very astute observation.
Not only that, but had they *wanted* to object, they'd have been forced to find some reason other than the religious affiliation of the project architects. Else they'd have gone against the Constitution, and presumably offended every conservative Constitutionalist in the land.
Including, presumably, Ron Paul, and the better portion of the Founding Fathers.
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And heck, I didn't even realize Newt Gingrich (or Rappy, for that matter) was a New York City "local"...
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So...on one hand we have McVeigh and Rudolph, and on the other Al-Qaeda, Al-Shahab, the Taliban, et al. Those scales don't balance--no matter how hard I squint or press with my thumb.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
The city council already voted unanimously to allow it. This issue was over as far as the locals were concerned, a year ago.
And yet, those darn people still have that damn freedom of speech thing.
go figure.
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And heck, I didn't even realize Newt Gingrich (or Rappy, for that matter) was a New York City "local"...
Not a local of Pearl Harbor, Hawai'i, either.
Your point ?
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"So...on one hand we have McVeigh and Rudolph, and on the other Al-Qaeda, Al-Shahab, the Taliban, et al. Those scales don't balance--no matter how hard I squint or press with my thumb."
Hello Mince,
If you are arguing that the Islamic faith has more terrorist members than any other faith currently, I think that's probably demonstrable.
As a bonus, they also have the majority of Pirates.
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
The city council already voted unanimously to allow it. This issue was over as far as the locals were concerned, a year ago.
And yet, those darn people still have that damn freedom of speech thing.
go figure.
And yet, those darn Muslims still have that property, that darn freedom of religion thing, AND that darn freedom of speech thing.
Go figure.
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Friday, May 28, 2010 - 18:26 To President Obama:
Mr. President, you're a god damn, mother fucking liar.
Fuck you, you cock sucking community activist piece of shit.
... go fuck yourself, Mr. President.
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So...on one hand we have McVeigh and Rudolph, and on the other Al-Qaeda, Al-Shahab, the Taliban, et al. Those scales don't balance--no matter how hard I squint or press with my thumb.
I think the scales balancing exercise is pretty pointless: even if we could add up every bad thing done by a christian versus every bad thing done by a muslim, and somehow measure the difference - it's still not a fair test for a hundred reasons. A christian or muslim can do bad things out of ordinary human vices and flaws. Similarly 'Christian' or 'Muslim' nations can carry out genocide, not necessarily 100% inspired by their religion (Nazi Germany, Ottoman Turkey). So EVERY SINGLE act of evil we add to the scales really needs to be dissected and squabbled over to determine what fraction of its weight of evil should be attributed to Christianity/Islam...
The question of religions' innate peacefulness, or otherwise, is one that we can only really judge with our guts, looking as honestly as we can at the world, and through history. BUT THEN (here's the test), if we conclude that all religions are equally violence-prone, or if we choose to arrange a violence-proneness hierarchy - either way we must explain it.
I personally view Islam as more violence-prone than other religions, and explain it in my mind by highlighting some of its doctrines, for example:
1) It's political in nature (christianity is much more apolitical)
2) It aims for world conquest (so does christianity, but not in a political way as much)
3) It has a doctrine of holy war (no such doctrine in new testament christianity)
By my knowledge and calculations Buddhism and Hinduism can be said to have none of these traits, Christianity has one (2), Judaism has two (1 and 3), and Islam has all three. Though I welocme other people's views on this. But I think this makes a difference.
That's how I make sense of things. People that believe all religions inspire humans to evil to the same extent (including Buddhism?), how do you explain this idea? Because unexplained, it's a bit of a freakish coincidence. Different religions have different assessments of what is evil, and try different ways of prohibiting it - but you're saying that they all succeed to the exact same extent?
One explanation might be that it is something about the conviction (common to all religions) that God is on your side - and therefore must hate your enemies as much as you do.
It's not personal. It's just war.
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