Another 'Religion of Peace' moment, brought to you by.....yep, ISLAM!
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Originally posted by Jongsstraw:
Mexico is on the verge of complete breakdown and anarchy. We are going to have to intervene sooner or later, how exactly I do not know. Obama's signs in the desert warning people to stay away or risk harm from drug gangs is not going to cut it.
Oh, grow a pair, Jong. Stop being a little bitty bitch.
Why are you looking at Jongs's junk?
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Mexico might be predominantly roman catholic, but the drug lords ain't inflicting violence in the name of Jesus, more like in the name of cashy money I'd assume. I'm not claiming to be an expert, and I don't believe Islam is inherently violent, but comparing drug cartel violence to Islamic terrorist and relating it to Christianity just seems silly.
I think that point about about assuming all Mexican's to violent based off of the drug dealers was very well made though.
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Mexico might be predominantly roman catholic, but the drug lords ain't inflicting violence in the name of Jesus, more like in the name of cashy money I'd assume. I'm not claiming to be an expert, and I don't believe Islam is inherently violent, but comparing drug cartel violence to Islamic terrorist and relating it to Christianity just seems silly.
I grow increasingly frustrated with comparisons between Christian and Muslim extremism, inasmuch as I am capable of frustration.
Whenver the subject of Muslim extremism comes up, folks feel obliged to mention that Christians entertain extremist attitudes, and are often themselves naughty and violent. Whether this is for a rage for balance, or just analogy fail, I cannot say.
Until there is an organized, world-wide Christian movement that uses violence as a tool, with the goal of spreading Christendom everywhere at the edge of the sword, such comparisons are feeble and silly.
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Until there is an organized, world-wide Christian movement that uses violence as a tool, with the goal of spreading Christendom everywhere at the edge of the sword, such comparisons are feeble and silly.
Used to be, back in the day?
Actually, I agree that there are some serious differences. Plus, it's not necessary to create a Christian equivalent to Al Qaida and the like to make such terrorist organisations distinct from Islam as a general religion.
In terms of source material, I think both Christianity and Islam have the demonstrated potential to be horrific - (or decent).
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That Christians were formerly more aggressive is accurate, but not on point, unless we argue that Muslim radicals will stop acting like barbarians eventually...like the christians did. I'm not hopeful--we'll all be enslaved and wearing burkas and beards first. Alas.
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"Whenver the subject of Muslim extremism comes up, folks feel obliged to mention that Christians entertain extremist attitudes, and are often themselves naughty and violent. Whether this is for a rage for balance, or just analogy fail, I cannot say."
Hello,
I think it depends on what you are trying to say.
For instance, I might say that Zoo A and Zoo B both have antelopes.
And they might say, "That's meaningless, because Zoo A only has ONE antelope, and Zoo B has FIVE!"
I don't think anyone will doubt that Zoo B has the greater number of antelopes.
However, if someone is saying, "We must Boycott Zoo B, because they have ANTELOPES!"
It's not unfair to say, "Well, yes, but Zoo A also has antelopes. If we're going to freak out about the antelopes in Zoo B, shouldn't we freak out about the antelopes in Zoo A?"
An opportunity is always missed here. The person never says, "Zoo A is within my antelope tolerance level. I am prepared to tolerate X amount of antelopes, but X+1 antelopes gives me a tizzy." Which might be an interesting conversation to have.
Instead they say, "That comparison is meaningless! You are an idiot!"
Which is a much less interesting conversation to have.
--Anthony
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We're not talking antelopes, so much as yapping lap dogs (christians) and coyotes (jihadists). Pointing out that the two are not equivalent is not to shut down discussion, but rather to prevent the same, and avoid the tired argument that because Christians may be assholes, jihadists are actually soft and fuzzy in comparison.
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Hello,
Actually, I believe the argument is that they are all assholes, or at least all have assholes.
--Anthony
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Quote:The comparison is born not of an objective correlation, but a practical one. Which is more of a threat to me personally, Christian fundies or Muslim fundies? Christian fundies, obviously, because they are far closer to taking control of this nation and persecuting all and sundry than any Muslim group will ever be.
Originally posted by mincingbeast:
Until there is an organized, world-wide Christian movement that uses violence as a tool, with the goal of spreading Christendom everywhere at the edge of the sword, such comparisons are feeble and silly.
That's been the point all along: yes, Islamic fundamentalists seek to rule the world, bring the decadent West to heel, but it's a gorram pipe dream. Good freakin' luck with that, Osama.
Time was, the evil commies wanted the same thing and they ran themselves straight into the ground. What the
makes you think the Muslims will have better luck than the USSR in its heyday??? (Cue the "They're out-breeding us!" argument...)It's not gonna happen--I don't know what is wrong with y'all that you think we're in such terrible danger from the Muslims. Yes, Muslim terrorists can kill people and blow shit up, but that's it. Without an invading army and military superiority, they got nothing. At best, they could convince us to get the hell out of their backyards (which is a good idea anyway), but they are never gonna run this country (except in the psychological sense of making us turn this country into the racist dictatorship their propagandists believe we already are).
That's why they're not the threat y'all want to pretend they are. That's why folk bring up Christian fundies who are a real threat to the peace of this nation.
HKCavalier
Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
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Hello Mr. Cavalier,
Very well put. In crass terms, the asshole that's shitting in my face every day is more of a threat than the 300 assholes who occasionally splatter something on my shoes.
As for actual flesh and blood carnage?
9/11 has always paled in terms of practical damage when compared to how we responded to it. And how we CONTINUE to respond to it.
--Anthony
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