Monsters.

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WULFENSTAR

Thursday, October 29, 2009 1:07 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/28/california.rape.investigation/inde
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Some quotes from this article:

(1) "Authorities have described the incident as a two-and-a-half-hour assault that occurred on the Richmond High School campus, in the Richmond community north of Oakland on San Francisco Bay."

(2) "We do not want this incident to be an excuse to further criminalize the young people of this city," Murillo said."

(3) "Lorna McClellan, a Richmond High teacher, said it was wrong that the community was being portrayed as a place that does not stand up for victims."

(4) "Yes, something horrible and atrocious happened on our campus, and yes, blame lies with the school officials, with the teachers, with the district, with the police, with the students were afraid to speak up. But it's important to realize that our community realizes this is a problem, and we are taking active steps to fix it," McClellan said.

(5) Gagan said police arrested three of the suspects Tuesday night. They included Salvador Rodriguez, 21, as well as a 16-year-old and a 17-year-old whose identities were not released because they are juveniles, he said.

A 19-year-old, Manuel Ortega, and an unidentified 15-year-old were arrested earlier, he said.

(6) As many as 10 people were involved in the assault in a dimly lighted back alley at the school, police have said, while another 10 people watched without calling 911 to report it.

(7) The victim was found unconscious and "brutally assaulted" under a bench shortly before midnight Saturday, after police received a call from someone in the area who had overheard people at the assault scene talking about the incident, police said.

The girl was flown by helicopter to a hospital, where she was admitted in critical condition.

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1. 2 and 1/2 hours of gang rape. Had the victim had a gun, she may have been able to defend herself.

2. Classic liberal-minded blame shift. "Further criminalize...ect ect

3. 10 animals/zombies/monsters, whatever, raped a girl for 2 and 1/2 hours, while at least 10 others watched.

4. More blame shifting.

5. Ok, Hispanic gang bangers. We are surprised at this?

6. I think the 10 who watched are just as guilty.

7. So after they raped her for hours, they dumped her under a bench.
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Ok, I have a few questions for the people here.

(A) Tactically, what is the best way to handle a situation like this? Lets assume 2 scenarios.

1. You are armed. Legally, can you fire arbitrarily into the crowd? Or should you try and disperse them by firing into the air? These animals are, likewise, probably armed.

1(A) What charges can you face for having a gun, loaded in California, and trying to save the girl?

2. You are unarmed. Fall back, call the police, watch with the rest? Charge in after calling the police and try and pull them off?

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:17 PM

bump

DREAMTROVE

Thursday, October 29, 2009 2:29 PM

unbump.

Wulf. Get a new issue. Everything comes down to racial profiling and the second amendment. It was old a long time ago, now it's undead.

I would take a different angle: What do expect? This is public school. Rape is an integral part of the institution, as is violence and drug trafficking. Of course that's not why it exists, it exists to brainwash the next generation, but these things happen because the system is run by the govt. and so is run very poorly.

RIVERLOVE

Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:13 PM

It's so sickening that is hard to even think about it. They should suspend all extracurricular activity for starters. They should try, convict, and lock up ALL who were there, whether they participated or watched. The ones that took pics should be charged with child porn. They should do something to make amends to this girl. I don't know what could ever be enough though. All teachers, students, and staff should be required to attend special rape prevention classes, including watching hours & hours of rape-victim interviews. Things have to change. What parent could send their child to this school now? But they're in class today I understand. How can they all look at each other?

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:38 PM

As a repeat of my questions above:

"Ok, I have a few questions for the people here.

(A) Tactically, what is the best way to handle a situation like this? Lets assume 2 scenarios.

1. You are armed. Legally, can you fire arbitrarily into the crowd? Or should you try and disperse them by firing into the air? These animals are, likewise, probably armed.

1(A) What charges can you face for having a gun, loaded in California, and trying to save the girl?

2. You are unarmed. Fall back, call the police, watch with the rest? Charge in after calling the police and try and pull them off?"

STORYMARK

Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:01 PM

Jeezus, of course Wulfie would take a truly horrible story, and turn it into a screed against liberals. You are such a hopeless douchebag.

I love that your sole solution here is let her carry a gun to school. Yeah, giving High School kids guns will totally fix the world. Moron.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

STORYMARK

Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:04 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by dreamtrove:

This is public school. Rape is an integral part of the institution, as is violence and drug trafficking. Of course that's not why it exists, it exists to brainwash the next generation, but these things happen because the system is run by the govt. and so is run very poorly.

At least Wulf isn't the only crazy person in this thread.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

AGENTROUKA

Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:18 PM

The article says that this happened during a homecoming dance, at night.

It makes me wonder what role alcohol played in the crime and the actions of the spectators.

RIVERDANCER

Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AgentRouka:
wonder what role alcohol played

Okay. No. I get so tired of hearing that excuse from criminals and their victims. "The evil fire water made him do it." No. If we were all honest with ourselves, we would know and admit that nobody does anything when they're drunk that they don't at least consider when they're sober. The most alcohol does is maybe quieting the "Maybe I don't want to do that, maybe that would be a bad choice, maybe that would embarrass me, maybe that would get me arrested" sort of thoughts people would generally have. Plenty of people ignore that part of their thinking without needed to resort to inebriation. Being drunk has become a handy excuse people can use to get away with bringing out the worst of themselves and parading it for the world. Sometimes the worst of someone is dancing on a table, singing badly and flashing people. Sometimes the worst of someone is rape or murder. Sometimes the worst of someone is standing around doing nothing when something terrible is happening.
There is no excuse for this. It should have been stopped. Guns aren't necessary to stop this sort of thing and odds are if the girl in question had been carrying a gun, she would have ended up shot with it. If someone else had been carrying a gun and used it to try and stop what was happening, they may have ended up shot themselves, or they may have ended up in jail, even though they were trying to stop a crime. Clearly the system isn't perfect, there, but the question would be why they were carrying a deadly weapon around. Just in case there was some crime to be stopped? No, probably not.
The solution to this sort of problem is not to arm everyone to the teeth. That way could lead to constant war in the streets. The solution is to educate. Properly. I'm not just talking about reading and math, I'm talking about emotional education. Fostering empathy instead of violence and hatred and disregard. It's the best path and the most difficult. And for those that it didn't work on, they could be locked up for life, I'd be fine with that. Maybe better yet, hanged, I'd probably be fine with that too.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:45 PM

Two war movies : Platoon & Casualties Of War - they both had scenes of gang rape, but both also had brave heroes who stood against the mob's barbarism, and that became the central theme of both stories. I don't know enough about the environment at this school to make a judgement or finger-point, but making judgements about right & wrong is an important and necessary part of being a human being in a civilized society. It should be a part of a child's education in schools, but I don't know if it is anymore.

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