450 posts IS a worse crime than wanting to kill us .
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Quote:The steps can be taken, IMO, just, like, awkwardly.
Originally posted by OPPYH:
We can't take one step into the future until we realize that we are all equal.
But I agree in spirit.

The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:The steps can be taken, IMO, just, like, awkwardly.
Originally posted by OPPYH:
We can't take one step into the future until we realize that we are all equal.
But I agree in spirit.
The laughing Chrisisall
Yup. Hopefully every generation gets a little better.
Mike
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Set a man on fire and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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It *seems* to be that way, if you look at stats. We may yet develop a Starfleet & Federation Of Planets....
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Oh, well, that certainly proves it; someone SAID it. That's good enough for me!
So "President Obama’s national intelligence director" would lie about it?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Geezer- We tortured someone so we could learn about al Qaida's chain of command???? (A chain which morphs as circumstances require.)
Hey, One of President Obama's guys said the intelligence was useful, not me.
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AFA decrying killing- I'm pissed off as all hell about the Somali government. In fact, there are a LOT of leaders I think should be locked up and the key thrown away, and in my more base moments I imagine strung up by their balls.
But that would be torture!!!!

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But, to be perfectly honest: We are here to persuade or dissuade each other- a primarily American audience with an American government. There's nothing we can do to the Somali government or for the Somali people, especially when aid is hijacked and aid-workers are held for ransom. Anything we do, we do through our government. That's why the focus is on what OUR GOVERNMENT does.
Fine. But our government is no longer subjecting prisoners to (take your pick) "harsh interrogation" or "torture". People are still dying in Darfur, in Iraq, in any number of places. I'd much rather see our government extending whatever power they have, especially with a president as internationally popular as Obama is, to do something about the hundreds of thousands of people who are still suffering and dying, rather than rehashing unpleasant, but not deadly, interrogation procedures used in the past.
Bush and Cheney aren't going to interrogate anyone else, ever again. Terrorists and rogue governments are still killing a lot of people. Which is more important?
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Geezer, do you believe in punishment as a deterrent to further crime?
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It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel fine.
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Remember when I said to the detriment of the interrogator's mental health?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/greg-mitchell/us-soldier-killed-herself_
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"Hey, One of President Obama's guys said the intelligence was useful, not me."
Hello,
That something can produce results is not the same as saying that something is good or efficient or best.
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Hey, One of President Obama's guys said the intelligence was useful, not me.
I note how you conveniently leave out the part about it not helping national security. He said that, too, but you are quick to dismiss the parts you disagree with. Ironic that you'd try to call someone else for doing exactly what you've done.
Mike
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