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KWICKO

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:49 AM

Also, no special treatment for "interrogators" (Put down that water bucket and untie that man, Agent Smith), no more special treatment for small businesses, large businesses, or ANY business, no more special treatment for airline passengers (Would you step over here, Mr. Patel? We just have a few questions for you...), no more special treatment for intelligence analysts (Of COURSE you don't need a warrant for that, Sir! By all means, please listen to whatever phone calls you want to...), no more special treatment for corporate criminals (Well, you DID steal five billion dollars from your shareholders, but since it's a VICTIMLESS crime, I'm just going to give you probation... It's not like you robbed a bank or sold crack...)

Are we on the same page?

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

PIRATECAT

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 2:55 AM

Gays had it made now they've screwed themselves right into a legal relationship. Nothing last forever not even cornholen for free.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

RUE

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:07 AM

As my co-worker said - they deserve the right to be just as unhappy in marriage as everyone else.

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WULFENSTAR

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:15 AM

Good. No more "special treatment" for ANYBODY in this country. No more handicapped accommodations (Man up and walk it off. The exercise might do your dead legs some good!), no more free donuts for cops, no more "special treatment" for veterans (things like lifetime healthcare, GI Bill, special consideration for civil service jobs, special consideration for college admittance, etc.), no more special treatment for faith-based initiatives, no more special treatment for Big Business, no more special treatment for Big Oil, no special treatment for Big Pharma and Big Medicine, no special treatment in the form of student loans (get a job and pay for your own education, slacker!), no special treatment for farmers (Adios, crop subsidies! Buenos dias, dustbowl!), no more special treatment for investment banks who go belly up and expect a government bail-out, no more special treatment for CEOs (if your workers can live on $5.85 an hour, so can you, Mr. Executive), no more special treatment for Administration criminals (sorry, Mr. Libby; you're going to have to serve the entire sentence...), no more special treatment for churches (hey, if you're going to run it like a business, we're going to tax you like one)... and the list goes on...

I agree that there shouldn't be any special treatment for anyone. (Except the part of the handicapped. I'm not heartless, and watching someone try and crip their way into a store is neither funny nor fun.)

My point (and I did get off on a rant before) is more with the term/word "marriage". Gays cannot be "married" UNLESS the church they congregate with allows it. Otherwise, its a civil union...with all the rights and benefits of a married couple.

Believe it or not, I'm a libertarian. I have no problem with gay unions, so long as they don't go shoving it down my throat.

If you are gay, whoopty-do. Just don't go pushing your shit on me. Don't tell me I have to accept it (or reject it) because of XYZ.

I don't care. Its not my business to judge. However, when you take away something of mine that I hold dear (and yes I hold MARRIAGE dear) THEN I have a problem.

RUE

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:30 AM

How does having two people of the same sex marrying take away your marriage ??

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KWICKO

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:56 AM

Quote:
Nothing last forever not even cornholen for free.

Yeah, even the Catholic Church has to pay for it now... But it usually only costs 'em two Snickers and a lollipop. ;)

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

KWICKO

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:11 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
How does having two people of the same sex marrying take away your marriage ??

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That's the part I can't figure out - why is it that if gays can marry, suddenly I can't be married anymore? How does it diminish my love for my wife or my commitment to her?

If gay people can legally commit to their love for one another, how does that lessen your love for your spouse (legally or spiritually), or your love for your Church, or your God's love for you? Is there not enough love to go around, and we need to hoard it to keep it away from others?

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

SIGMANUNKI

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:41 AM

@Wulfenstar:

You keep bringing up your OPINION as if it were reality for everyone. Point of fact, this is not so. In fact, marriage, by any modern definition, does NOT preclude same sex marriage. In fact, it has been generalised to "two people." You not liking this fact doesn't make it go away.

My wife and I are married. We may have been married by a Marriage Commissioner, but our MARRIAGE is recognised as a legal MARRIAGE.

Also, how exactly does the possibility of gays being able to get married "go shoving it down [ your ] throat." Do you think that they will force you to be married to someone of the same sex because you technically could (assuming you live where it's recognised)? How exactly does them being able to get married take marriage away from you?

I'll also mention that there is a really big problem here. You see, we keep bringing up points and new points and you just keep bringing up the same tired flawed rhetoric. Care to say something new?

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JEWELSTAITEFAN

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 9:43 AM

My dollars don't say "In Allah we trust" or "In Buddha we trust" or any such. Since the gubment has subjected to Christianity, thems the laws and Commandments what should be followed.

KWICKO

Wednesday, June 18, 2008 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by jewelstaitefan:
My dollars don't say "In Allah we trust" or "In Buddha we trust" or any such. Since the gubment has subjected to Christianity, thems the laws and Commandments what should be followed.

Horseshit. Show me where the "gubment" has "subjected to christianity" - and then prove to me that they've subjected to THIS PARTICULAR BRANCH of it. There ARE Christian churches that recognize and accept homosexuals - some even have openly gay priests and bishops!

"In God We Trust" is about a generic religious term as you could hope to find. Also, it didn't appear on American money at all until the 1860s, and then only on coins. And it was nearly a hundred years later (1957) that it appeared for the first time on American paper currency.

According to the US Treasury, it was originally intended as "a recognition of The Deity", without saying which particular one (you are aware that there is more than one "god", right?)

So thanks for playing, but you're full of shit.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

The Myrmidons were an ancient nation of very brave and skilled warriors as described in Homer's Iliad, and were commanded by Achilles. - Wikipedia

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