First California gay couples wed

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WASHNWEAR

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 3:58 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
Marriage is a religious institution.....how is it the governments business to define what can be a marriage or not?

Besides, my wife and I are atheist. Does that mean we're not married?

Mike

Not at all, my good Sir Kwick-O - according to my excitingly judgemental friends on the Religious Right, you and your good lady wife will merely burn in hell for all eternity, or happily ever after, whichever comes first.

This is my tongue, and this is my cheek...please note their proximity.

It was like ALL THE MISTER & MISS GRUNDYs OF THE WORLD THOUGHT THEY HAD A DIRECT PIPELINE TO THE WILL AND WHIMS OF ALMIGHTY BOG when we got here!

WULFENSTAR

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:46 PM

*sigh This is not a religious fundie issue....Its a seperation of church and state issue... and also a states rights issue...

The federal government does not have the right to determine what constitutes marriage. Or doesnt. Marriage is a Religious institution. When you get "married" you are swearing before God, in the company of other fellow believers, that you will love, honor, ect ect.

At best, what gays have is a civil union. Unless the church they belong to allows for gay marriages.

But, most western religions do not allow for gay "marriage".

So, at best, its a civil union. Leave it at that. Be happy with that. Be grateful for that.

STORYMARK

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 4:55 PM

So, if you get maried in a courthouse, it's not really a marriage?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WULFENSTAR

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:06 PM

No, its a civil union. The "marriage" part comes from whatever church you are under. Despite what might be said.

STORYMARK

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:26 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
No, its a civil union. The "marriage" part comes from whatever church you are under. Despite what might be said.

Now, is that your definition, or do you have backing? Looking into it a bit, I find nothing that says a court marraige is anything less than a marriage. And marriage itself is a legal agreement, not strictly a religious institution, so I really don't see where you're coming from here.

I just find it funny that an institution that was untill relatively recently an arranged pairing usually based on economic concerns (despite religious trappings attached) is now being defended solely as a religious institution.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

WHODIED

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:28 PM

I can't believe they're letting gay people marry.

We are seriously running out of subsets that we can discriminate against.

Holy Christ! What's next, a black president?

--WhoDied

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WULFENSTAR

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:43 PM

*sigh What EXACTLY is wrong with civil unions for gays? Why must they term it under marriage? Civil unions bestow the same rights as marriage.

Its just not called marriage, nor is is sanctioned by any church.

Its a good compromise.

The fact that they won't take that, and instead insist on forcing the issue, makes me skittish and a bit angry.

CITIZEN

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:53 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
*sigh What EXACTLY is wrong with civil unions for gays? Why must they term it under marriage? Civil unions bestow the same rights as marriage.

Why must Christians call their civil union marriage? What makes them so special? It's Jews that are Gods chosen people, only they should be allowed to marry, everyone else should be content with a civil union.

More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

WULFENSTAR

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 5:58 PM

Its not a minority issue either...

STORYMARK

Tuesday, June 17, 2008 6:02 PM

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Originally posted by Wulfenstar:
*sigh What EXACTLY is wrong with civil unions for gays? Why must they term it under marriage? Civil unions bestow the same rights as marriage.

Its just not called marriage, nor is is sanctioned by any church.

Its a good compromise.

The fact that they won't take that, and instead insist on forcing the issue, makes me skittish and a bit angry.

And what EXACTLY is wrong with gays being married?

Why should they just "take that", instead of being allowed the same rights given to everyone else?

And why does it make you so angry?

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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