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Privilege in the United States

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 2:08 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Just face the realities and acknowledge White privilege and admit that you benefit from it, and move on. Admit that you do have the advantage here in the United States over some average dark-skinned person. Just admit that when you leave the restaurant you can say "The money is on the table" and people will automatically take your word for it.


I'm a heterosexual white male under 35, the only unprotected class of folk in this country. Don't talk to me about privilage. There were no scholarships, no affirmative action, no benefits of any kind.

"The money is on the table" is only relevant if the money is actually on the table. Besides, some places want you to pay at the door, so leaving the money on the table is wrong regardless of color.

Besides, your missing the bigger picture. There was a time when the money could not be on the table because the non-white folk were outside looking in. And a time before that when they were the servants. And before that when they were slaves.

In my business I've found that when a man beats his wife, color is not relevant. When a woman drinks and drives her car into a minivan full of kids, color just does not matter. I do find non-white males seeking to exert privilage in their defense. After all the cop was white so the black defendant can't be guilty regardless of the facts.

This whole privilage argument is just an excuse to refuse to take personal responsibility for your own success and failure. You have to work hard to get by, life is hard...must be a conspiracy against you. Guess what, everybody works and black people have more in common with white people then either of them have with rich liberals with $400 haircuts and masions the size of apartment buildings (ok cheap John Edwards shot...also applies to rich conservatives, but at least they are not pretending to be something they're not).

H

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 2:15 PM

River wrote while drinking heavily:
"but White men are the number one reason WHY the United States is so fucked up right now"

You don't really believe that. You must be the product of a west-coast liberal blame whitey first upbringing. The world has changed. White men no longer want to dominate, they are happy to just dance funny......Well, just the opinion of a black Tunisian woman.........



Love always kaneman

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 2:17 PM

"I'm a heterosexual white male under 35, the only unprotected class of folk in this country. Don't talk to me about privilage. There were no scholarships, no affirmative action, no benefits of any kind."


Tell me about it. This whole thread is a joke. Priveledge is no longer because of the color of your skin...Its who you KNOW.........Well, it's true..........

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 5:02 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Just face the realities and acknowledge White privilege and admit that you benefit from it, and move on. Admit that you do have the advantage here in the United States over some average dark-skinned person. Just admit that when you leave the restaurant you can say "The money is on the table" and people will automatically take your word for it.
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-River

Won't happen. I'll concede there is still "white privilege" from which I benefit; but until the playing field is leveled, I will not simply 'move on' while I can do something to move toward a move toward a more level field.

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 5:14 PM

“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs....There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who do not want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.”
-- Booker T. Washington

In Washington’s day, this “class of colored people” may have been predominately African-American, but today this philsophy has migrated and come to dominate the domestic polices of a large part of Left-wing politics in America advocated by as many and probably more white people then black.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 6:45 PM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
River wrote while drinking heavily:
"but White men are the number one reason WHY the United States is so fucked up right now"

You don't really believe that. You must be the product of a west-coast liberal blame whitey first upbringing. The world has changed. White men no longer want to dominate, they are happy to just dance funny......Well, just the opinion of a black Tunisian woman.........



Love always kaneman



I have not dranked since last Saturday's fun filled, floor, free fall out of the chair experience, which I'm not looking forward to repeating in the future anytime soon. Anyhow. Whatever gave you the idea that I am left-wing or liberal? Also some knuckle-dragger said I was experincing White Guilt? I don't think so. Does one have to be a Left-winger, a Liberal, or a White guilted up person to point out the evils of their own race?

And yes white men do want to dominate; it's in their nature, and they will never change.

-River

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 6:53 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
“There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs....There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who do not want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.”
-- Booker T. Washington

In Washington’s day, this “class of colored people” may have been predominately African-American, but today this philsophy has migrated and come to dominate the domestic polices of a large part of Left-wing politics in America advocated by as many and probably more white people then black.



*laughter*

Why oh why do you white males always go for the conversational distraction from the topic when all you really need to do is get down on your knees and pray to God for forgivness regarding White Privilege and promise not to do it again? I mean really! Why do you need to make quotes and speeches to defend your position and right to have white Privliege. Also why is it when the subject of White Privilege is brought up every white person female, or male denies that they have never been helped by white privilege?

White Privilege is a reality and YOU benefit from it. Face it.

-River

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 6:55 PM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
"I'm a heterosexual white male under 35, the only unprotected class of folk in this country. Don't talk to me about privilage. There were no scholarships, no affirmative action, no benefits of any kind."



In a world where you have every advantage...Could it be that you are just lazy?

-River

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 6:55 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
Why oh why do you white males always go for the conversational distraction from the topic when all you really need to do is get down on your knees and pray to God for forgivness regarding White Privilege and promise not to do it again? I mean really! Why do you need to make quotes and speeches to defend your position and right to have white Privliege.

No “white” male made that quote.



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Thursday, June 7, 2007 7:21 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
In a world where you have every advantage...Could it be that you are just lazy?


That could be. Lets look at my past. Hmm...job, school, job and school, job and lawschool. Maybe when I became a lawyer...nope, worked two jobs, seven days a week for a year and a half before my first vacation. Now I make pretty good money so I've cut myself back to seventy or so hours with a week's vacation every year (not counting govt holidays). So yeah, I'm lazy...

Then again, an African American male with my academic background would have had a full scholarship and been recruited to a top law firm out of school. Heck, I saw it happen with fellas and some nice ladies way behind me in the academic arena. Yes, I have the job I wanted, but I worked my way from intern all the way up and still almost lost out to a nice gal who failed her bar exam the first time and couldn't try cases worth a damn. She did have a large chest to offset her lack of research and writing ability...female privilage? She's gone now...could not cut it. I could and here I am. My boss is a female...meanest prosecutor I ever met (also the smallest...size does not matter) and damn fine trial lawyer.

I'd gladly trade my student loan payment for some racial profiling or the occaisional sexist remark...where do I sign up?

H

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