Privilege in the United States

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RIVER6213

Thursday, June 7, 2007 7:30 PM

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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
In a world where you have every advantage...Could it be that you are just lazy?

That could be. Lets look at my past. Hmm...job, school, job and school, job and lawschool. Maybe when I became a lawyer...nope, worked two jobs, seven days a week for a year and a half before my first vacation. Now I make pretty good money so I've cut myself back to seventy or so hours with a week's vacation every year (not counting govt holidays). So yeah, I'm lazy...

Then again, an African American male with my academic background would have had a full scholarship and been recruited to a top law firm out of school. Heck, I saw it happen with fellas and some nice ladies way behind me in the academic arena. Yes, I have the job I wanted, but I worked my way from intern all the way up and still almost lost out to a nice gal who failed her bar exam the first time and couldn't try cases worth a damn. She did have a large chest to offset her lack of research and writing ability...female privilage? She's gone now...could not cut it. I could and here I am. My boss is a female...meanest prosecutor I ever met (also the smallest...size does not matter) and damn fine trial lawyer.

I'd gladly trade my student loan payment for some racial profiling or the occaisional sexist remark...where do I sign up?

H

A lawyer huh? I'm impressed. Okay, so you are not lazy. You can't be lazy and go through the head-trauma trying to be a lawyer.

-River

HERO

Thursday, June 7, 2007 7:35 PM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
A lawyer huh? I'm impressed. Okay, so you are not lazy. You can't be lazy and go through the head-trauma trying to be a lawyer.

Head trauma? I'd gladly trade three days of having someone whack me in the head with a phone book to having to take the bar exam.

H

RUE

Friday, June 8, 2007 1:01 AM

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"There is a certain class ... who do not want the patient to get well, because ... they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent ...”

... today this philosophy has ... come to dominate the domestic polices of a large part of Left-wing politics in America ...

Lets' see how this stands up. The premise: Domestic policies of many liberals are dominated by the desire to make money and garner prominence.

Nope, that doesn't compute. The vast majority of liberals work regular jobs and all but handful will ever gain prominence.

Sorry, Finn, Try again.

KANEMAN

Friday, June 8, 2007 1:41 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
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Originally posted by kaneman:
"I'm a heterosexual white male under 35, the only unprotected class of folk in this country. Don't talk to me about privilage. There were no scholarships, no affirmative action, no benefits of any kind."

In a world where you have every advantage...Could it be that you are just lazy?

-River

How this is my quote I have no idea...unless River is drinking again.......

RIVER6213

Friday, June 8, 2007 2:29 AM

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Originally posted by kaneman:
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
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Originally posted by kaneman:
"I'm a heterosexual white male under 35, the only unprotected class of folk in this country. Don't talk to me about privilage. There were no scholarships, no affirmative action, no benefits of any kind."

In a world where you have every advantage...Could it be that you are just lazy?

-River

How this is my quote I have no idea...unless River is drinking again.......

And your point is...?

And NO I'm not drinking; not yet at least. I might on Friday and let's see if I can repeat my falling off the chair and passing out on the floor stunt. How I managed to start a topic while doing all of this bothers me a little...

Anyway. How are you enjoying your White Privilege Kaneman?

-River

FINN MAC CUMHAL

Friday, June 8, 2007 3:18 AM

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Originally posted by rue:
Lets' see how this stands up. The premise: Domestic policies of many liberals are dominated by the desire to make money and garner prominence.

Nope, that doesn't compute. The vast majority of liberals work regular jobs and all but handful will ever gain prominence.

Sorry, Finn, Try again.

Nice strawman.

Sorry, Rue, Try again.

Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

LEADB

Friday, June 8, 2007 3:27 AM

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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
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Originally posted by kaneman:
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
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Originally posted by kaneman:
"I'm a heterosexual white male under 35, the only unprotected class of folk in this country. Don't talk to me about privilage. There were no scholarships, no affirmative action, no benefits of any kind."

In a world where you have every advantage...Could it be that you are just lazy?

-River

How this is my quote I have no idea...unless River is drinking again.......

And your point is...?

And NO I'm not drinking; not yet at least. I might on Friday and let's see if I can repeat my falling off the chair and passing out on the floor stunt. How I managed to start a topic while doing all of this bothers me a little...

Anyway. How are you enjoying your White Privilege Kaneman?

-River

Hero is the one claiming to be a heterosexual white male, not Kaneman. Apparently he isn't. J/k, just couldn't resist the setup. Not sure how, but River got the attribution incorrect.

PIRATEJENNY

Friday, June 8, 2007 3:32 AM

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Originally posted by Hero:
Quote:
Originally posted by RiveR6213:
In a world where you have every advantage...Could it be that you are just lazy?

That could be. Lets look at my past. Hmm...job, school, job and school, job and lawschool. Maybe when I became a lawyer...nope, worked two jobs, seven days a week for a year and a half before my first vacation. Now I make pretty good money so I've cut myself back to seventy or so hours with a week's vacation every year (not counting govt holidays). So yeah, I'm lazy...

Then again, an African American male with my academic background would have had a full scholarship and been recruited to a top law firm out of school. Heck, I saw it happen with fellas and some nice ladies way behind me in the academic arena. Yes, I have the job I wanted, but I worked my way from intern all the way up and still almost lost out to a nice gal who failed her bar exam the first time and couldn't try cases worth a damn. She did have a large chest to offset her lack of research and writing ability...female privilage? She's gone now...could not cut it. I could and here I am. My boss is a female...meanest prosecutor I ever met (also the smallest...size does not matter) and damn fine trial lawyer.

I'd gladly trade my student loan payment for some racial profiling or the occaisional sexist remark...where do I sign up?

H

Why do you continue to bring up African Americans instead of addressing your white male privilege. If an African American could swap 400 years of slavery and Jim Crow and the last 40 years of affirmative action for your white privilege would you, somehow I doubt it.

Racism is about power , white male privilege is about power. You act as if a few years of some mostly defunct affrimative action programs have made up for hundreds of years of enslavement and terrorism. It hasn't even come close, stick to the topic..which is your white male privliage or is that to hard for you to do!!

Am I suppose to feel sorry for you because you didn't get a scholarship and there was no program to help you through college, I'm sure your white male privilage helped you just as much as any affirmative action program helped some woman or some minority who needed it.

You know you love your white male privilage no one is asking you to deny that; however just don't try to justify it, just admit that it does give you an advantage over everyone else. It puts you at a certain level that you didn't earn,and thats just the way it is. why is that so hard for some of you to admit?

RUE

Friday, June 8, 2007 4:49 AM

Finn,

Nope, the strawman is yours. You claim that there is a "large part of Left-wing politics" mostly white who want to keep "the hardships of the Negro race before the public" because "as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public."

And yet, virtually every liberal is a working person like you or me, and with the exception of a handful, like you or me almost none will ever be prominent. Your attempt to portray liberals as radical self-serving prominent parasites is seriously out of touch with reality.

In fact, I think I can make a better case portraying conservatives as parasites cynically feeding off of tax money while propagandizing about private business.

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“Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs -- partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs....There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who do not want the patient to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make themselves prominent before the public.”
-- Booker T. Washington

In Washington’s day, this “class of colored people” may have been predominately African-American, but today this philsophy has migrated and come to dominate the domestic polices of a large part of Left-wing politics in America advocated by as many and probably more white people then black.

RIVER6213

Friday, June 8, 2007 4:49 AM

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Originally posted by piratejenny:
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Originally posted by Hero:
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Originally posted by RiveR6213:
In a world where you have every advantage...Could it be that you are just lazy?

That could be. Lets look at my past. Hmm...job, school, job and school, job and lawschool. Maybe when I became a lawyer...nope, worked two jobs, seven days a week for a year and a half before my first vacation. Now I make pretty good money so I've cut myself back to seventy or so hours with a week's vacation every year (not counting govt holidays). So yeah, I'm lazy...

Then again, an African American male with my academic background would have had a full scholarship and been recruited to a top law firm out of school. Heck, I saw it happen with fellas and some nice ladies way behind me in the academic arena. Yes, I have the job I wanted, but I worked my way from intern all the way up and still almost lost out to a nice gal who failed her bar exam the first time and couldn't try cases worth a damn. She did have a large chest to offset her lack of research and writing ability...female privilage? She's gone now...could not cut it. I could and here I am. My boss is a female...meanest prosecutor I ever met (also the smallest...size does not matter) and damn fine trial lawyer.

I'd gladly trade my student loan payment for some racial profiling or the occaisional sexist remark...where do I sign up?

H

Why do you continue to bring up African Americans instead of addressing your white male privilage. If an African American could swap 400 years of slavery and Jim Crow and the last 40 years of affirmative action for your white privilage would you, somehow I doubt it.

Racism is about power , white male privilage is about power. You act as if a few years of some mostly defunct affrimative action programs have made up for hundreds of years of enslavement and terrorism. It hasn't even come close, stick to the topic..which is your white male privliage or is that to hard for you to do!!

Am I suppose to feel sorry for you because you didn't get a scholarship and there was no program to help you through college, I'm sure your white male privilage helped you just as much as any affirmative action program helped some woman or some minority who needed it.

You know you love your white male privilage no one is asking you to deny that; however just don't try to justify it, just admit that it does give you an advantage over everyone else. It puts you at a certain level that you didn't earn,and thats just the way it is. why is that so hard for some of you to admit?

Good point, and thank you very much for adding that. I was wondering when someone else who isn't a White Male would come in here and add their two cents worth to the fray. I also noticed that whenever a topic like this comes up the first thing people do is start talking about the treatment of Black people. They toss up statistics proving that Black people are the #1 makers of crime, or the number one takers of the welfare system. They talk about Affirmative Action, and they also mention quotas, and they ALL end it with how oppressed the White man is and how they have no special organizations to protect them. It makes me want to hurl sometimes because I KNOW they know better than that.

The original Affirmative Action is the Old Boys Club. The members? White Males. Everyone else had to take a back seat because they were all undeserving. Even when Affirmative Action and other policies were put in place White Males STILL found ways around that, and even with all of these organizations White males STILL hold the power over almost everything. I fail to see how they are being oppressed. I still think that they see it as there god given right to determine who is deserving and not deserving. And you are right Jenny...It's about power and they are not found lacking in this, but STILL they whine. Out of all the people in the United States White males have it better because they have an advantage that no one else

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