'08 Presidential Candidates: Who served & who didn't
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UPDATED: Friday, August 25, 2023 18:32
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Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Perhaps more restraint would be shown if the President has experience.
You mean like if Bush went to Vietnam and got shot at or thrown in a POW camp...he might not have started this catastrof#!k of a war?
Who can say. Perhaps the war would be going differently if Bush had a better grasp on military matters. Perhaps more experience would temper his decision making, make him more open to different scenarios. There is a huge difference to being CiC in peace time as opposed to times of conflict.
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And since when did military experience mean killing.
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If it doesn't, how is it any better than experience working for an insurance company, or a ditch digger?
The President would have a better understanding of the way the armed forces work and their strengths, weaknesses and limitations. What insurance or ditch digging have to do with being the CiC escapes me.
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So you need a CiC who has military experience during wartime - like Vietnam? Why, son, that fits Bush to a T. I guess he's your poster-boy, then.
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Once again referring to TV Nation (in the Privilege thread) did you see the skit about company CEOs being challenged to perform the most basic functions with their products? The President of Ford being challenged to change oil? The CEO of IBM being challeneged to format a disk?
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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
What insurance or ditch digging have to do with being the CiC escapes me.
Nothing really, I was going for arbitrary. I think I did pretty well judging by your reaction. Eisenhower was a damn fine President and one valuable thing he learned from his miltary career, that he incorporated into his Presidential career, was the fine art of delegation. He surrounded himself with people smarter than him, and listened to them. Pretty much the opposite of what Bush does. Bush surrounds himself with smart people, then has them think and speak only to suit he and Karl Rove's agenda. It's a misguided....and therefore evil agenda methinks! Oh! and by the way...Bush dodged service, a real hero Republican man would have volunteered to go to Vietnam
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Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
Eisenhower was a damn fine President and one valuable thing he learned from his miltary career, that he incorporated into his Presidential career, was the fine art of delegation. He surrounded himself with people smarter than him, and listened to them. Pretty much the opposite of what Bush does.
So you agree that a military background is helpful to a President, thanks for your support. With the exception of K man it has been lacking for my position in this thread.
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Bush surrounds himself with smart people, then has them think and speak only to suit he and Karl Rove's agenda. It's a misguided....and therefore evil agenda methinks!
Kind of a tangent, methinks!
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Oh! and by the way...Bush dodged service, a real hero Republican man would have volunteered to go to Vietnam
So you agree that a military background is helpful to a President, thanks for your support. With the exception of K man it has been lacking for my position in this thread.
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"So you need a CiC who has military experience during wartime - like Vietnam? Why, son, that fits Bush to a T. I guess he's your poster-boy, then."
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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:Quote:
Originally posted by MalBadInLatin:
Eisenhower was a damn fine President and one valuable thing he learned from his miltary career, that he incorporated into his Presidential career, was the fine art of delegation. He surrounded himself with people smarter than him, and listened to them. Pretty much the opposite of what Bush does.
So you agree that a military background is helpful to a President, thanks for your support. With the exception of K man it has been lacking for my position in this thread.
Are you sure you're in good company? Because if you say MalBadInLatin fast, it sounds like Mal Bin-Laden! And according to the media and what they did to someone else's name (Obama) that's not a good thing!
EDIT: Fixed typos and whatnot.
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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
So you agree that a military background is helpful to a President, thanks for your support. With the exception of K man it has been lacking for my position in this thread.
No one is disagreeing with your position that a military background could be helpful. In fact, you'll find that almost everyone agrees with that statement.
What people are disagreeing with is the idea that military service is necessary for a good CiC. That's the difference. It is no more necessary to the job than a doctorate in economics, physics, or any other field that a decision might have to be made in. If our president doesn't have to have an M.D. to make health care policy, he doesn't need military service to make military decisions - but either would be helpful.
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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Thanks for your input Simon. Do you have an opinion on the thread's topic?
I'm sorry, the answer I was looking for was "USA". Never mind, Bush didn't know the answer either.
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Originally posted by SimonWho:Quote:
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Thanks for your input Simon. Do you have an opinion on the thread's topic?
I'm sorry, the answer I was looking for was "USA". Never mind, Bush didn't know the answer either.
The answer was on the last page of "My Pet Goat." He was trying to puzzle it out for seven or eight minutes, but those darn guys in the suits made him leave.
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