'08 Presidential Candidates: Who served & who didn't
POSTED BY: CrevanReaver
UPDATED: Friday, August 25, 2023 18:32
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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Perhaps more restraint would be shown if the President has experience.
You mean like if Bush went to Vietnam and got shot at or thrown in a POW camp...he might not have started this catastrof#!k of a war?
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And since when did military experience mean killing.
If it doesn't, how is it any better than experience working for an insurance company, or a ditch digger?
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Wholly crap I agree with Hero on something!
Dwight D. Eisenhower is another great example of a (Republican) President that served yet is the one (I believe) that coined the phrase 'Military-Industrial Complex':
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In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
—Farewell Address, January 17, 1961
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There was a documentary lately about him that was great, but I can't remember the name.
But, I'm going to have to say that I wasn't so much his military career that made him, more along the lines that he was quite clever.
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Quote:Kaneman, the President is more than the Commander in Chief. And post-911 would seem to require more than military experience, since military actions does not seem to be the solution. More along the lines of diplomacy perhaps, or intelligence. (Something Bush is sorely lacking.)
What is wrong with thinking that the commander in chief should have military EXPERIENCE?
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"EXPERIENCE"
SignyM beat me to it, but I too wanted to point out that el presidente should be an experienced actuary, physician, economist, scientist, welfare mom, HMO patient, engineer ... to fill all the roles of the president as leader of ...
... OR you could pick a president for his/her policies AND ability to draw on well-qualified advisors.
So hard to choose here.
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Originally posted by yinyang:
And, back to the original post, it is not cowardly or unpatriotic to say, "I do not want to aid in the military extension of the United States of America by serving in any of the armed forces," which is what I think is being implied by "weren't willing to take that risk."
Not a huge fan of the military, are we?
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Kaneman, the President is more than the Commander in Chief. And post-911 would seem to require more than military experience, since military actions does not seem to be the solution. More along the lines of diplomacy perhaps, or intelligence. (Something Bush is sorely lacking.)
I've read the books written by Stormin Norman and Tommy Franks, seems that CENTCOM commander should be a great job prep for President according to the qualifications you seem to be looking for.
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Quote:I'm not.
Not a huge fan of the military, are we?
It has its uses but... DANG! Hundreds of thousands of young testosterone-fueled guys with guns, trained to obey and kill. Kinda sounds a little creepy, doesn't it?
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"I've read the books written by Stormin Norman and Tommy Franks, seems that CENTCOM commander should be a great job prep for President according to the qualifications you seem to be looking for."
And then we have Colin Powell who only seemed to know how to follow orders, over a cliff.
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Originally posted by SignyM:
BDN: Perhaps if the President had been a nuclear engineer or a biologist he could have evaluated the WMD threat better. Or, if he had been an actuary he could have come up with a better plan for Social Security. Maybe if he had been an economist he could have halted the flight of manufacturing to China.
Are any of the above mentioned positions written into the President's job description like Commander-in-Chief is?
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When experts contradicted his fantasy-scape, they were fired and replaced by political hacks who whispered sweet nothings in his ear. The only people Bush listens to are Cheney and Rove.
What does Bush have to do with the military careers of the presidential candidates?
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