I wish you all could rcognise

POSTED BY: Cache
UPDATED: Sunday, April 1, 2007 08:57
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Originally posted by Cache:
3)If for some reason the USPS decided to set up
a sting (I can't stop laughing about that one)
well I won't be there. One would only have to
mail out one batch. That's the beauty of things
that are viral. You infect once, and you move
on. Those you infect spread it for you. No one
is going to "triangulate" me. That is just silly.

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Just a few post earlier you cited (as a successful example) AOL's technique of sending out CDs until they were number one - which kind of contradicts this notion of only doing it once. And, as much as I love the show, I think you're wrong about what kind of response you would get from a one-time pirated-DVD mailing/distribution.

Don't make faces.

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Does this forum even have moderators or is this a free for all forum? I would think that after the numerous confessions of illegal behavior in this thread would not only warrant the thread being locked but possible trips to banned camp.

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Cache:

Apparently, I made some mistaken assumptions about your proposed methodology. However, these were based solely on your descriptions of same:

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1)I would never choose to use hard mailers which the post office states clearly on big signs are subject to inspection. There are plenty of soft mailers for media which do the job nicely. They are cheaper too.

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When I said 'hard mailer', I meant standard cardboard CD mailer. The USPS is looking for these, too, if they lack a return address.

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2)As for the return address I would use a fake one, one that does not exist. I do understand that this cannot be left blank.

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But you previously said:

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Were you going to mail these out with a return address?

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Maybe you can understand my misapprehension of this stage of The Plan.

So, now you're saying you'd make up a fake address from your own surrounding neighborhood? You presume the mail deliverers don't know their own turf? Or would you make up an address from a different city?

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3)If for some reason the USPS decided to set up a sting (I can't stop laughing about that one) well I won't be there. One would only have to mail out one batch. That's the beauty of things that are viral. You infect once, and you move on. Those you infect spread it for you. No one is going to "triangulate" me. That is just silly.

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Again, my mistake. In your opening post, you claimed, "I'll handle central CA." (NB: That'd be central California, in standard terminology.) I misunderstood that you intended to 'handle' all of central CA by mailing out one batch. I presumed something a little more comprehensive than a single handful of CD-R's...

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4)Hundreds of CD mailers go through USPOs on a daily basis...

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Again, misunderstood to be 'no return address' as you had previously stated, as opposed to 'with a fake address (probably from another city, or else one of my neighbors)'.

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5)Do you have some intimate knowledge of the USPO that I do not because I have never seen any DVD players there?

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In the case of an anonymous CD mailer (which we've since ruled out, I suppose), the piece of mail would routinely be removed from the premises to an investigatory lab. They have DVD players, there. And computers, too. And really (scarily) smart guys. And software you would not believe.

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6)Everything you wrote about the mail attacks in 2001 was wrong. They were all via conventional envelope, and they have not caught the culprits. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks

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Did you seriously cite Wikipedia?

As a final note, by breaking copyright law through the federal post, it's not about whether or not somebody would press charges. It ain't a civil suit. It's the proverbial 'federal case'.

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Another idea I had was purchasing a copy of the boxed set and mailing it to local popular talk radio DJs along with a letter or flyer describing the intent. This also applies to syndicated nation wide DJs such as Imus, Howard Stern, and Opie and Anthony.

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Now you're talking our language. I especially liked the "purchasing a copy" part. I don't know about the DJs you mentioned; but the nationally-syndicated "Don and Mike Show" (totally inane, out of Washington, D.C.) recently received a season DVD of some TV show from a fan, and they were both talking it up in a positive fashion. This idea might work, and I think you're on the right track, if you're looking for dedicated folks (who're itching for a reason to buy another copy or three anyway) to help you promote Firefly in a new way.



Respectfully,

zoid

P.S.
"Don and Mike" may be inane...and rude...and juvenile...and a thousand other unsavory, unintellectual things. But they are also funny as hell. I laugh all the way home in the afternoons. People with whom I share the road probably think I'm either crazy or having some kind of seizure. HINT: Don't ever call them. Unless you're completely masochistic.
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Originally posted by Troublemaker:
Does this forum even have moderators or is this a free for all forum? I would think that after the numerous confessions of illegal behavior in this thread would not only warrant the thread being locked but possible trips to banned camp.

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Heh.... ironic statement coming from somebody with the handle troublemaker.

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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I'm a huge fan of this site because of its freedom of speech aspect. Very Browncoatlike.

Kudos to the mods!

"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack

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6ixStringJack wrote:

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I'm a huge fan of this site because of its freedom of speech aspect. Very Browncoatlike.

Kudos to the mods!

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I second. We may not always (or even ever) agree. But there is no Freedom without free speech.

And likewise, "Kudos to the mods", for having the uncommon wisdom to know and respect that tenet.



v/r,
-zed
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Heh.... ironic statement coming from somebody with the handle troublemaker.

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Its the truth; however, I have limits. This thread is past trouble, its right out chaos. Its obvious that there are "irritants" that need to be flushed.

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I'm a huge fan of this site because of its freedom of speech aspect. Very Browncoatlike.

Kudos to the mods!

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Some folk have no concept of freedom. Their definition of freedom is more of a definition for utter chaos.

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Originally posted by zoid:
Cache:

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When I said 'hard mailer', I meant standard cardboard CD mailer. The USPS is looking for these, too, if they lack a return address.

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Just as a quick example!
http://www.containerstore.com/browse/Product.jhtml?PRODID=62618&CATID=
62517&searchId=1465691&itemIndex=1
These are a bit on the pricey side but just
looking to show you what I meant.

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So, now you're saying you'd make up a fake address from your own surrounding neighborhood? You presume the mail deliverers don't know their own turf? Or would you make up an address from a different city?

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Most likely a nearby area would be best. 1-2
Zip codes away.

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Again, my mistake. In your opening post, you claimed, "I'll handle central CA." (NB: That'd be central California, in standard terminology.) I misunderstood that you intended to 'handle' all of central CA by mailing out one batch. I presumed something a little more comprehensive than a single handful of CD-R's...

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It would be more around the range of 200 or so.
The point being that those recieving the DVD
and enjoying it would then pass it on to friends
or family or remailing it themselves to another
random person.

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Did you seriously cite Wikipedia?

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Yes I did.

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As a final note, by breaking copyright law through the federal post, it's not about whether or not somebody would press charges. It ain't a civil suit. It's the proverbial 'federal case'.

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Hm, you have given me a small idea.

BTW Sent out a boxed set to Opie and Anthony
although it might take a while to make it to
New York I don't doubt they will be talking
about it soon, and their listeners number in
the millions. As a fan of their also inane
radio program I know that Firefly is something
that Anthony would love.

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