I wish you all could rcognise
POSTED BY: Cache
UPDATED: Sunday, April 1, 2007 08:57
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As a very occasional poster, I am not sure why I am getting into this...
If a strange DVD turned up in MY mailbox at random, I would think "Virus" and chuck it in the bin immediately.
This idea is so ill-conceived, it defies belief.
And, frankly, Firefly ain't coming back. Too many years have passed, Gina Torres is pregnant, the sets have gone and Fox clearly had no stomach for it in the first place.
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Quote:
Originally posted by Cache:
However, my initial point still stands. Picture
this if you will. You have never heard of Firefly
or Serenity. One day a copy of Disc 1 arrives in
your mailbox at random. You watch it. Do you not
purchase the entire box set as soon as you can? Do
you not purchase the movie? Your moral dilemmas
aside this is a point where hundreds or thousands
can turn millions onto an excellent experience.
And maybe provide enough buzz to bring back what
one of the greatest science fiction writers of all
time OSC called the best sci-fi TV series ever.
Wait, let me see if I've gotten this straight. You want us to send out discs to random people, in a country that's got the willies for terrorism?
Yeah, that's a great plan, make the people belive the Browncoats are some part of Al-Qaeda just waiting to blow shit up. =)
"My cartridge fell out of my gun..." - Nathan Fillion
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Hey, Cache! How're they hangin'?
Okay, first off: He/She only really misspelled 'rcognize' because s/he missed the 'e' key and then probably missed checking the spelling on the header. Cache otherwise seems to have a good grasp of the language, spelling and grammar. So, lighten up on that. S/he seems intelligent, and the arguments presented do have some weight. They differ in substantial ways from Kaneman's, who's clearly a criminal and a miscreant. (NB: "...End of story." -Kaneman. If only.)
'Troublemaker' accused Cache of being under the age of 18. I do not know if that's true (or whether Cache is male or female), because there's no info on Cache's Profile page.
But let's assume that s/he is under 21. Does that mean Cache (or any other teenager) is unintelligent? Absolutely not. What may be presumed is that s/he is inexperienced in the ways of the world. There is no substitute for real-life experience. You cannot read it in a book, or simulate it by philosophical thought experiments.
Being young means making mistakes. A lot of them. And, hopefully, learning from them and not messing up your entire future in the process.
So, Cache, if you feel the need to engage in some creative chaos/anarchy or civil disobedience (because the young are eternally full of piss and vinegar where it comes to the status quo), then I suggest that you risk your future and a criminal record on something more substantial than a TV show/movie. One should never be so cavalier about a venture that may jeopardize your ability to ever hold a job above busboy, for the rest of your life.
You know, go save a whale or a baby harp seal, or something meaningful like that. Spray some rich bitch's $10K mink coat with red Rustoleum... Go fight in a war that people wish would end...or march on Washington to show them how much you wish it would end. Point is, if you're going to be reviled by your society, make it count for something.
I love Firefly with a passion that surprises me. I sense the same in you. But screwing up your future for an entertainment -- whether it's Firefly or your favorite one hundred sound-alike bands -- is a youthful mistake that could not only be costly for the rest of your life, but it is also a mistake that can easily be avoided...
Agedly,
zoid
P.S.
You're much more likely to land employment in a field that can make you a difference maker in our society, if you've only ever been busted for civil disobedience (i.e., 'marching on Washington'), rather than stealing things from big corporations, as you've proposed. Please note: By using the USPS (United States Postal Service) as you outlined, you'd be committing a federal felony. Otherwise known as 'going away to the big house, for nightly same-sex romances with larger, meaner people than yourself'.
I know you've had a brainwave with this whole scheme; but I think you should just put it down on the ground, and back slowly away from it and any other activities of a similar nature you may currently be engaging in.
Be a 'difference maker', and then exercise your righteous indignation along the channels of power; rather than asking, "Would you like to Biggie-size that order (and how about a $5 rip of "Serenity" in HD)?"
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'
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I'm so glad you're back home, Zoid. 
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Originally posted by FollowMal:
I'm so glad you're back home, Zoid.
Can I get an amen??
BTW, If I got a random dvd in the mail from someone I didn't know, it would go live with the 4,000 other dvds I've received from aol. In the trash without a second glance.
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While I agree that we ain't done everything right, what you're saying is, 1) Insulting to Me, 2) Insulting to the Rest of us folks here, and 3) downright stupid.
You say that you are sorry for being emotionaly charged, Cache? Apology noted... taken, I guess
The facts remain; what you are saying is Illegal, ya? All manner 'o not good!
You've gone and bungled your chance of us hearing you out by your insults to us; would YOU listen to someone who was calling you a pig-headed ass? Yes, you did imply that.
On a side note... the guys spelling ain't THAT bad, folks... c'mon he's got, what? Two mispelled words on this whole thread? There are probably more mis-spellings in this one POST than his entire speech... but, my point remains.
You, good man, are a [MOD EDIT: Please refrain from personal attacks]
-Danny
I wanna take the Bullet,
The one aimed straight for your Heart;
I wanna meet the wolves halfway,
And let them Tear me APART,
But that's not the way they do it here...
THRICE RULES!!!!!!!!!
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Quote:
Originally posted by zoid:
'Troublemaker' accused Cache of being under the age of 18. I do not know if that's true (or whether Cache is male or female), because there's no info on Cache's Profile page.
But let's assume that s/he is under 21. Does that mean Cache (or any other teenager) is unintelligent? Absolutely not. What may be presumed is that s/he is inexperienced in the ways of the world. There is no substitute for real-life experience. You cannot read it in a book, or simulate it by philosophical thought experiments.
I was aimed more at the fact that suggesting something like this sounds childish. Also, if your going to suggest criminal activity, be of the age that you can feel the full extent of law and not be covered by the "I'm underage, so I dont know better" clause.
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Originally posted by Cache:
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people (especially corporations) no longer respond to or acknowledge letters, protests, nor petitions.
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Originally posted by Cache:
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it you love this series write a letter/email
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Huh? Writing a letter doesn't work, so do something to get other people to write a letter?
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FollowMal:
'S good to be back, compadre.
...Now if only some of the other (moderately) old-timers would check back in, to at least let us know they were okay. Y'know? I mean, would it hurt 'em to just drop us a line every once in a while?
...But as for me, I'm back with a vengeance, like a once remitted (if rather indolent) cancer...
v/r,
-zed
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"I aim to misbehave." -Capt. Mal Reynolds, Serenity, a.k.a. 'the BDBOF'
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Cache, the irony here is that you are right - letters, protests, and petitions are not effective in these matters. However, letters, protests, and petitions are not the hallmarks of Browncoat efforts. What we've been doing is exactly what you're suggesting, only we've been doing it legally. Instead of burning copies of DVDs, we have purchased extra sets to distribute. We put our money where our mouth is - so much, in fact, that many Browncoats have had trouble ordering copies from Amazon, because they think they are being purchased for resale!
We've been running guerrilla marketing campaigns, organizing charitable ventures in the name of Firefly and/or Serenity, and virally spreading the word since the before viral marketing was the in thing. In fact, we were so effective, Universal framed an entire marketing strategy around our efforts (though, not especially effectively). We have (or had, before things were tightened) fanvids all over YouTube and Google Video, we have thousands of five star reviews on Amazon, and (legal) copies of the DVDs being sent up on the next shuttle to find a permanent home in the International Space Station! We've donated DVDs to libraries across the country, to the troops serving our country (every Naval vessel has Firefly in their DVD library thanks to the DVDs for the Troops effort), and have arranged public screenings of Firefly and Serenity across the country.
So really, you're on the right track, you would just be served better to approach things a little more constructively, with a closer eye to the history.
{Edited, because I neglected to proofread.}
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