Renouncing my ways...
POSTED BY: deepgirl187
UPDATED: Thursday, October 19, 2006 08:18
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I've really felt this sense of discontentment with the show lately. Not only do the characters grow apart in the series, but I think the viewers grow apart from the characters. I'm not sure whether this was Joss's intention, but it certainly has had an effect on how I relate to the show. It also may be the reason that I've enjoyed watching Angel so much. I guess I've really needed a break from Sunnydale, and Angel is a good vehicle for that. There were actually days where I looked forward to getting my Angel disc more than my Buffy disc. But I guess as long as I can see Spike, all is well. 
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Quote:If it helps, I was EXACTLY where you are, and I know what you mean.
Originally posted by deepgirl187:
I've really felt this sense of discontentment with the show lately. Not only do the characters grow apart in the series, but I think the viewers grow apart from the characters.
And now 3, 6 and 7 are my favourite seasons. The characters evolve, sometimes painfully, but it's a tale worth telling and re-living IMHO.
Chrisisall the Bloody
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i started with Buffy then moved to Angel and Firefly. so, i'll ALWAYS love Buffy but, just a suggestion, i really only liked seasons 1-3 of Buffy a lot. the other seasons were okay but not as good. Glad you like the show now, and it's good to meet another Bones fan!!
"See, I've secretly been kind of a fan of me for some time now. I've seen everything I've ever done. I'd love to meet me, but I'd probably just stare and not be able to say anything witty or anything." -- Joss Whedon
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I'm at a loss for words here. I mean, the past few episodes have been rough. I honestly don't know where to start.
"Fool For Love" was hard to watch. Not that I disliked the episode, it's just that it was difficult to see Spike's past. You really start to understand him for the first time. I mean for the love of Joss, could he have it any rougher? No wonder he's such an ass most of the time, he has it honest. Watching that first flashback was just painful. And Buffy, trifling bitch she is (yeah, I said it), has just been out of line. I'll admit, Spike has earned a fair bit of derision, but Buffy goes out of her way to be cruel to him. Seeing Spike on the ground crying was just awful. But the most moving scene had to be at the very end:
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"What's wrong?"
"I don't want to talk about it."
"Is there something I can do?"
Poor Spike. He has a rough time ahead of him, I think.
I know there aren't many people that like him, but as I've watched this season, I've kind of developed a new respect for Riley. His character is fascinating from a philosophical perspective, if you think about it. For instance, people use their professions to define themselves. When they leave that job they lose that identity. Riley, having left the Initiative, has lost what defines him, and is in turmoil becuase of it. He looks for new sensations to fill the void that's been left within him. A good example would be when he allows Sandy to feed off of him. He feels so empty inside that he takes dangerous risks to feel whole.
Still not happy with Buffy. And it's going to get worse, I know. Childhood's over, I guess.
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*sigh*
What a sordid life our heroes lead...
Not many agree with me, I know. But I honestly liked Riley. I won't say that nothing was his fault, but he was right. Buffy shut him out. In some ways I think that out of all Buffy's relationships, their's could have worked out. And yes, I know I haven't seen her and Spike, but if you really think about it, the mere fact that both Angel and Spike are vampires really dooms any kind of relationship they could have with Buffy. She is the slayer, after all.
*double sigh*
This season just keeps getting worse. Joss has really gotta lighten things up soon.
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This is a completely self-serving post, but...I GOT THE CHOSEN COLLECTION!!!!! 
Ahem. Sorry. Just had to share that. You may now continue your normally scheduled programming.
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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
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This season just keeps getting worse. Joss has really gotta lighten things up soon.
Umm... if you're looking for light you might be waiting a while (or forever). If you hate season 5 then perhaps the rest of the show is not going to be your thing. The Buffyverse (which includes Angel) reaches spectacular new levels of depression nearly every year. Don't stop watching, but..just sayin'.
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I don't hate Season 5 by any means, Amyel. The whole thing just happens to be hellishly depressing. My mom and I have made remarks to the tune of "poor Spike" just about every episode with all of that in mind. I just miss being able to laugh some of the time. And don't worry, I'll still be watching. I go into withdrawal when I don't get my fix.
Maybe it's just me, I'm not sure. But so far during this season, I'm starting to like the fringe Scoobies more than originals. By "fringe" I mean people like Dawn, Tara, Anya, and of course, Spike. Although Xander's mostly okay. I didn't start off liking Dawn, but after finding out about the Key, you really start to feel for her character. And I was never a big Anya fan, but after watching "Triangle", I'm liking her more. And who could not like Tara. She just too cute.
Spike is really going through the ringer this season. And yes, I know it's going to get much worse. But I have to tell you, nobody does stalking quite like him. I thought Angel was pretty bad, but Spike takes it to new levels.
One of the things that bothers me the most about this season so far is the reaction everyone's had to Spike. In "Crush" and "I Was Made To Love You", everyone was seemingly angry about his attack on Buffy. But I really think the issue was the fact that he is in love with Buffy. That seemed to unsettle them more than anything. And notice that Buffy never revoked his invitation before, nevermind the fact that he'd attacked her multiple times. The Scoobies can be more than a little hypocritical and self-righteous at times. I can't wait until next season. It serves Buffy right that she ends up involved with Spike.
To make a long rant short (yeah right), Drusilla summed up my feelings on the characters in "Crush":
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"Oh, we can you know. We can love quite well... if not wisely."
I don't think she means just vampires...
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Congrats on the Chosen Collection.
Keep on truckin', it's all about season seven to me....
Watchin' it now, AAMOF.
And loving it Chrisisall
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I have to admit, a TV show has never made me cry. The most I'll really do is tear up, and any exaggerations I write about reflect that.
That all changed a few days ago, after watching "The Body". I sat there with my mom and cried silent tears throughout the entire show. It was extremely heart-wrenching to watch what everyone went through. Joss portrayed their grief in a very realistic manner. There were amazing performances done by all, and it's truly a shame that this episode (as well as the show in general) has never gotten more recognition. I've never seen anything on TV or film more moving than that.
P.S. - Oh, and "Intervention" was just plain wrong.
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