Male and Female Imponderables-Resurrected

POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Thursday, June 8, 2006 20:33
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MAL4PREZ

Monday, June 5, 2006 6:09 PM

Oh - I see what you mean, and I totally agree. Sex without love is just not satisfying for me anymore! There really needs to be some feeling involved, and more than lukewarm 'fondness'

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LEAINA

Monday, June 5, 2006 6:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Tristan:
Here's another question for the group regarding the whole sex issue: can you have sex with someone you don't love? I know it's physically possible, but is it something you have done or could do?

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Oh god, I've been a wild child. Yes, I've had cyber sex - only it's just like reading bad porn.

And yes I went through a faze of sleeping with everything that moved, be it man, woman (although thankfully not sheep) but like ghostrider, I think that subconsciously it was more a term of self-abuse more than anything else. [Scarily, why I really identified with S6 of Buffy with her realtionship with Spike]. Also I think it was just simple desperation- wanting to be close with people at a time I felt very alone. And I'm only 21 now, gorram I feel old.

Also Taya and Emmarigby (whom I'm sharing a room with for Serenity 3!!!) I'm soooo over that faze of my life! No worries!! I promise.

But at the same time, now, I'm in a strangely celibate phase of my life. I guess I'm all one thing or all the other. No inbetween. And I don't think that's especially healthy either.

MSG

Monday, June 5, 2006 6:36 PM

Okay in guys speak means- I am doing something way more important than this lame conversation, please quit talking and go make me some food.

You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

MSG

Monday, June 5, 2006 6:39 PM

Ok how is a threesome cheating if all parties agree than it's just fun

You're only young once, but you can be immature any time!

SHEPHERD2BE

Monday, June 5, 2006 7:50 PM

NVGhostrider --- Best of luck with the future meetings.

Tristan--

There were a couple of incidences long ago where I misrepresented emotions in the pursuit of the pleasure of the flesh.
Umm, yeah,....I lied. Not proud. Shamed in fact. It was a big mistake on my part. But it was a decade or so ago and since then hopefully I've grown a little emotionally. Very sure I could never do it again. Almost positive even.

I have had partners I did not "love" exactly, but there was an equal understanding and attraction between us. We did care for each other but Love is too strong a word for what we shared. They still remain good friends with me to this day.

I can separate love from sex, but for me there still has to be spark of something more there.

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Thought the collar gave it away

TRISTAN

Monday, June 5, 2006 7:54 PM

Shiny! Seems like a consensus so far. Sex=good. Sex+Love=The Way To Go.

Thank you all!

Alright, what's next?

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, June 5, 2006 8:18 PM

I gotta question for the female BROWNCOATS out there. Do you like the old fashioned approach? I find it difficult to conduct personal buisness unless I present myself in a way that is more akin to a simpler time. Unless people know me very well they do not understand my reason for being honest and straight forward, (especially women folk). In one way I feel a bit emasculated by the female dominated society I feel is developing. In another way I feel very empowered by my ability to be a man and not treat women as mere objects, but as wonderful beings that deserve respct and honor. These things keep women away because they are unfamiliar with a guy that doesn't have to exert their masculine side. I live in a rural/military town where most single guys do this all the time. I guess my question is: Do women really want a sensative guy who actually cares about the feelings of others, or is that an outdated way of thinking?

VINTERDRAKEN

Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:35 AM

Missed alot when I was at my parents this weekend it seems. Heres my futile attempt at catching up.

Cybersex - Never really tried it. Dont think it would work since a big part of sex to me is physical contact.

Meeting over the net - Hasnt worked for me atleast. Cant seem to really connect over the net. Also, my brother found his last ex on the net, didnt work at all.

Liking a woman who likes women? - Been there, done that. No problem really. Have had two girlfriends who said they were bisexualls. But one of them seems to think it was all just a fase now. Bit of a trend in Sweden at the moment that all alternativ girls a certain age experiment. Makes it all alot more confusing.

Dating someone like me? - Movieinterested browncoat who likes zombiemovies, romance and snuggles. Hell ya! Not many of those girls out there though ;)

Sex without Love - Been down that road aswell. Didnt have any problem with it. Although it tends to get complicated after a while. But I have to say that sex when your in love is a million times better

Now, did I miss anything?

You can’t stop the Signal.
Keep spreading the word about Firefly!

NUCLEARDAY

Tuesday, June 6, 2006 12:58 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WANT A THREESOME.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE BORED.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE FICKLE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WILL CHEAT.
AND IT DOESN'T MEAN WE AREN'T SATISFIED.

LOL. I apologize if I my post came off the wrong way, PR. :P Really, I have no trouble at all with anyone's sexual orientation regardless of who they are or what they're into. I've never dated a bisexual girl (haven't really dated all that much anyways, come to think of it.) But I've always got a kick out of my friends that were lesbian/gay/bi. In all seriousness, I don't see that I'd have a problem dating someone that was bi. If it's a healthy relatioship, I don't see how it even would factor in that much. (Other than maybe we'd catch each other checking out the same people :)

About sex without love. Well... I'm a bit more old-fashioned. But not terribly so, I suppose. I feel more comfortable at least waiting awhile in a relationship before getting into that. Getting maybe a tad personal: the little mister doesn't always function too well with someone I'm not comfortable with. Performance anxiety or whatever. There was a couple very drunken nights back in college, though...

Not into one-night stands though. For me, the first time I have sex with someone is always a little awkward. You don't know what the other person likes, etc.

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PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, June 6, 2006 3:57 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
I gotta question for the female BROWNCOATS out there. Do you like the old fashioned approach? I find it difficult to conduct personal buisness unless I present myself in a way that is more akin to a simpler time. Unless people know me very well they do not understand my reason for being honest and straight forward, (especially women folk). In one way I feel a bit emasculated by the female dominated society I feel is developing. In another way I feel very empowered by my ability to be a man and not treat women as mere objects, but as wonderful beings that deserve respct and honor. These things keep women away because they are unfamiliar with a guy that doesn't have to exert their masculine side. I live in a rural/military town where most single guys do this all the time. I guess my question is: Do women really want a sensative guy who actually cares about the feelings of others, or is that an outdated way of thinking?

Well, this woman actually wants a sensitive guy who actually cares. Overly macho guys really turn me off. So do people who aren't straightforward. Can't speak for every woman, though.
What female dominated society?

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