In the garden, and RAIN!!! (2)
POSTED BY: SIGNYM
UPDATED: Friday, September 11, 2026 15:29
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Out soon on a day that can't make up its mind weather wise. Couple of things to do.
Email from my friend. She was really nervous as he BP decided to go high. Luckily a nurse had come in to check on her husband. Think she asked the nurse to check her BP. She told the nurse she is normally low but not yesterday afternoon. Nurse told her to take a couple of aspirin and go to her doctor. She has doctor's appointment. Will check my email before I leave.
Also had a incident on my floor last night. Heard arguing and a dog barking around 8 or so. It must have still been going on because around 10pm, heard a knock on my door and I opened. There were 4 cops standing in the hallway. Said there was an incident and to shelter in place. Did that at around 11pm, cops came back but I didn't open the door. I did hear the same cop as before and it was the all clear.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I think hubby ran into that.,I'll ask him.
Thanks. If he's got an ideas, that'd be great. But if you read to the end, I don't believe it's a linux issue at all and it's my old BIOS that's causing the problem here.
I've seen similar issues being brought up on Reddit regarding Linux and it sounds like it's known that drives outside of the boot drive could be recognized randomly and given a different designation every boot.
I'm guessing that this might even be happening in Windows on that computer with the 3 drives installed as well. I would just never notice it is all. Yesterday was the first time I've ever tried loading 3 drives on that computer at the same time. If Windows is switching up the load up of the 2 drives, the only difference to me would be different drive letters because I'm not using any reliance on links in Windows.
It's only a negative impact in Linux where I need to have that 2nd drive with the Symbolic Links loading up before the 15TB drive does every time, otherwise some of the times I load it, it will error out saying that no data is available and it gets stuck in a loop until I reboot. After a reboot, it may or may not load up right. If it loads, great. If not, I have to just reboot over and over again until it does.
One thing that got me really thinking it's the BIOS is that it seems rather confused. When I ask it to list out the drives attached, instead of recognizing I have a 500GB, 5TB and 15TB drive, it only recognizes the 500GB, and then it recognizes the 5TB twice, but only says that they are 2.19TB capacity each. It doesn't even show the 15TB drive.
But when I load them in Windows or when Linux loads them correctly they all show up right and work properly.
Just another example of weird jenk on my end when I'm rocking all of this low tech, probably.
But if your husband has any ideas I'm happy to try them.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
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I've done some testing and so far the only real negative impact of not being able to launch with that SSD is about 15-30 seconds extra on the initial boot. I'm pretty sure after that point that the RAM is what's doing all the heavy lifting. Even on things that require heavy CPU utilization. In those cases, there is probably also some slowdown while things are loaded into memory from the HDD, but I was already loading that stuff off the 15TB HDD with Symlinks, so I wouldn't notice any difference there.
I haven't come across any other notable problems with it yet, although doing any real testing would require me to just use it regularly and see if any problems pop up. It would be impossible for me to really test it thoroughly any other way. I think it will be fine. Would be nice to load with the SSD, but since I want that 15TB drive always hooked up and I've got that 12 year old BIOS, I don't think I'm going to be able to boot with all 3 in a way that's usesful for me. Oh well.
Ideally, I'd have a 6TB SSD drive, but I don't believe that Jack has $650 in the budget for one of those right now.
It's possible I won't need that 15TB drive hooked up all the time after I'm done with the moves and backups. I'd just have to be clever on how I did everything to ensure it wouldn't need to be used very often.
But doing that is still kind of a pain in the ass because every time I would need it, I'd have to get up and plug it in and then remember to eject it when I was done otherwise next time I boot there would be problems again.
This idea sounds OK, but I wouldn't have a way to backup new things or changes on the fly and what would likely happen is I'd look at it again in another 7 years and see that everything is a mess. It would be so much nicer if this all just worked together.
So far I've got my project, my magazines, books, calibre libraries, music, movies, TV shows and games all backed up twice. I've also got a 70GB folder of documents and photos that I'm sure as heck not sorting through that's just backed up twice.
Most of what's left is potential project stuff that didn't make it into the project yet, backup images of various computers of my own and those I've built for other people, a various collection of good programs I've collected over the years, and several huge folders of old project work in various states that I have to decide what I'm going to do with.
Because I'm making so many of my backups "working" things, I'm able to utilize the space on my regularly used drives for backups, instead of having 2 or 3 of them just sitting in boxes for years.
I'm pretty sure that I'll be able to fill that 2TB drive for storage and not have any need to buy additional storage space like I thought I might when I started.
Man... it's still hot here. I really need to mow that lawn, but I'm not feeling it right now.
It's cloudy as hell though and has been all day, so I didn't get to see what my bathroom looks like with the sunlight shining in this morning. Looks awesome though. I can't wait to get this finished.
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Those who dance always seem crazy to those who can't hear the music.
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All done for today.
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SIX, if I understand correctly, you're trying to get the 15TB drive to mount (load) last, correct?
Running Linux, correct?
OK will do my best to comit what I was told.
It used to be in old systems, the mount sequence was determined by BIOS. It would start with drive A, then attempt drive B, C etc in order. Which was A, B, etc was determined by which cables were attached in what order.
**** NO MORE ****
Under Linux, the mount sequence and directory assignment is managed BY LINUX.
The only thing BIOS setup does is allow you to determine which drive, or which partition of which drive, to go to to find the boot loader. So you can set your hard drive as the first option, a CDROM as your section option, and a USB stick as your third option where to find the boot loader.
So BIOS finds GRUB (Grand Universal Bootloader?).
GRUB then loads the Linux kernel.
Up to that point, no other storage media (Hdds, ssds) have been mounted.
At this point, you're all good, correct?
So.
Each hard drive, (or each partition of each hard drive, if you've partitioned any, which I don't think you have) is identified by a hugely long number called the UUID, Universal Unit ID.
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A universally unique identifier (UUID) is a 128-bit number used to identify information in computer systems. The term globally unique identifier (GUID) is also used, typically in software created by Microsoft.[1]
When generated according to the standards, UUIDs are, for practical purposes, unique. Their uniqueness does not depend on a central registration authority or coordination between the parties generating them, unlike most other numbering schemes.
While the probability that a UUID will be duplicated is not zero, it is close enough to zero to be negligible.
Your drives all have unique IDs, no longer SDA, SDB etc.
If you're in root, you can find the UUID of each drive with the command blkid (block ID).
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"blkid is a command-line utility in Linux that displays information about available block devices, including their UUIDs, file system types, and labels. It is primarily used for identifying and managing storage devices."
Once you've found the UUID for each device, you can then assign (mount) them to a directory that you want by going to
/root /etc /fstab
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The /etc/fstab file is a system configuration file in Unix-like operating systems that contains information about disk partitions and how they should be mounted. It is used by the system to automatically mount filesystems at boot time, specifying details like device names, mount points, filesystem types, and mount options.
(file system table) and mounting them to a directory like
UUID t12efgy6ujji9plkhfet-yui899ppl5678ngt6 /home/backup
Apparently it's very easy to mess up in /fstab so make sure you haven't monkeyed with which your boot and kernel locations.
Instructions on fstab
https://www.howtogeek.com/38125/htg-explains-what-is-the-linux-fstab-a
nd-how-does-it-work/
I know it's complicated and I may have messed it up. If it doesn't work let me know and I'll re-ask.
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Oh BTW, your bathroom redo: looks classy!! I love the gray and white. Personally, I'd keep the walls all one color, but that's just me.
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I appreciate the info.
My situation makes things a bit tricky. I'm using a very specialized offshoot of Linux geared for a very specific purpose. Unfortunately, I don't even want to mention what that is here for reasons I'm sure you understand. Knowing that wouldn't automatically allow unfriendlys to find my project, but it is just another bread crumb I'm not going to trail back to me on these forums. But I'll just say that this version of Linux has very few tools to operate with after it's loaded up. I think I may be able to get into terminal if I research it, but in the last two years I've used it, the only things I've been able to do is set up FTP access, move files around or create symbolic links. Most traditional programs included with Linux in this OS are not included here and it's pretty locked down.
I'm also not using traditional Grub. I'm using a program called Grub2Win, which is a Windows based program that allows me to choose between Windows and Linux Mint on boot. While inside Windows it has a lot of functionality geared toward generating your desired boot order when you have multiple OS's installed on your PC. Originally I had the program OS directly on that computer as a 3rd option, but very early on I realized that it would create conflicts with any external drives that also had the OS so I eliminated the program OS from the computer itself and as an option in Grub2Win. It is recommended to boot this OS from a USB anyhow, but I thought I was being clever having it on the computer drive. I was not being clever.
But, as far as I can tell, there is no way to make Grub2Win recognize anything off of any of my external drives to load a specific drive, or to load the other drives in a specific order.
It's possible that this Grub2Win program is actually making the legit Grub files somewhere and I could further edit them in terminal using your info. I'm not sure yet.
For now what I've done is just removed the cord from the back of the fast 500GB SSD, and I'm just using the 5TB full slower build and I've got the 15TB drive attached. It works, but it's slow to boot up. I'm going to just do this for a few days while doing other things and see if it screws up anything else or makes anything slower than it was running on the 500GB. If the only drawback turns out to be an additional 15-30 longer boot time, I'm alright with that, at least until I upgrade my PC to something that has a much more hands-on BIOS to work with.
Hey... you didn't say anything about the pictures. Did you see them???
EDIT: Re-reading this reminds me that I realized the other day I still have a partition on the main computer drive for the specialty OS that I should get around to deleting and adding either to the Windows or Mint partition. I guess I haven't bothered with that to the point where I've forgotten about it twice now. I rarely use that computer for anything other than my project and the limited space I've got for Win/Linux on it hasn't ever been a problem needing solving up to this point.
The last few weeks has seen that computer get the most Win/Mint screen time it's ever seen, and in all that time I haven't even touched either of those partitions. I'm just using them to load the OS.
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I posted about the bathroom redo further up. It looks great, SIX!!
Sorry we couldn't help with your device issue.
But windows also uses UUIDs, so maybe there's a clue in there.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
I posted about the bathroom redo further up. It looks great, SIX!!
Sorry we couldn't help with your device issue.
But windows also uses UUIDs, so maybe there's a clue in there.
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Man... I must be going blind. Took me a while to find it this time too.
Thanks, yeah... I think I will keep it all the one color. I shouldn't even be touching two of those walls for the rest of the job, and there's a pretty good chance I can do the electric I'm going to do without making any new wall damage except for cutting out the two boxes I'll be putting up when I fix that mess and add a 2nd outlet. So if I don't mess up my cuts I might actually be done painting except for the remaining cabinet stuff, the inside of the window I filled in with wood filler and the eventual baseboard. Some touch ups for brad nails and caulk too, I suppose. I look at that more like one huge job with the similar work that I'll need to do on all that stairwell trim I put up a while ago.
Don't apologize. I'm sorry you went to all that trouble in your reply. I'll let you know if I look any further into it. Right now it seems like I'm not going to, but that's because I'm still doing a lot of other things. If it turns out that I'm going to have issues with the slower HDD, first thing I'm going to do is go back to your post.
Thanks.
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Yeah... This digital dehoard has been great.
Pretty slow going, but I'll know where everything I'm keeping is when its all done and where it's all backed up. I think by the end there may be around 1 to 2TB that doesn't get a backup, but it will be all the stuff I was on the fence about even bothering to keep, and it's really only going to stay because I'll have so much free space on the 15TB drive that I wouldn't have to delete it for a very long time anyhow.
Part of what's great is that the storage sizes are just so big now. I think I mentioned that huge folder of documents and photos that I have zero desire to go through now. 70GB used to be huge. Back when I lived at my grams and built my 2nd computer I remember an 80GB hard drive costing me around $150. Now I delete that much space off my 15TB drive and all I get is 0.07TB back out of 13.60TB. It's nothing. And having it backed up on my working 5TB it's only taking up 0.07TB out of 4.54TB. It's nothing.
Unless something that I still have yet to go through really surprises me several times, I don't think I'm going to make any more huge steps in gaining space. I've deleted hundreds of thousands of files just today, but probably didn't even get 250GB out of that. And a large portion of that was a surprise folder that was duped with 100GB in it. So about 2/5ths of the space savings so far today took about .05% of the effort of the remaining 3/5ths.
But at this point the more I remove the less that won't have any backup at all.
Part of the backing up is using my "work" drive for storage. I had freed up so much space off of that it probably would never get close to being filled, so I figure anything related to projects that I may want to pick up again one day can be stored there and on the 15TB drive. As long as I have 1TB free for that drive I'm good. That means I can add a good amount since I'll be deleting about 750GB more from it once I get external verification that my build works, and I've still got about 600GB to use before I only have 1TB left.
And I figure any disk images I've made for various builds that I want to back up can be stored on the media streaming disk since there's tons of free space on there that isn't likely going to be used for a long time. I'd probably never bog down my work computer cloning drives and I'd use the images on the 15TB drive, but it will still be nice knowing that they're in 2 spots.
But I'm real happy with a recent find. I'd thought I already got all of my music files put together for one last purge, but then I found another backup folder from an old drive that had almost 50 more songs that I swore I had but couldn't find anywhere.
I'll be adding about 500 new songs to my mp3 player for when I'm outside doing yard work. That's cool. I was really getting pretty burnt out on the ones I had on there and can use the change. I'm not sure if it will all fit on there, but I also found a nice little cache of old SD micro cards I haven't seen for years too if I need more space.
ETA: Hmmmmmm.... I could be wrong about making more significant space. Got my 15TB drive back over 3.4TB free which was a huge leap since last entry. Just a brief skim of what I've got to do to sort through this current part leads me to believe I may have hit the free-space jackpot if I see it through. It will be a lot of work to verify I'm keeping everything that I need and the newest versions of everything because there's just so much of it, but it appears that I have backups from several different time periods on some pretty large things project related from a long time ago. (This is among the old project stuff I thought I hadn't had backed up anymore, but found out that it was... several times over).
Basically, once my current deletions finish, I should be well over 3.6TB free, and since a 15TB drive only has 13.6TB of w
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