Elections; 2024
POSTED BY: THG
UPDATED: Friday, November 21, 2025 00:12
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Lot of cope articles coming out of the left today.
I don't blame them. The polls are terrible right now. +4(D) means there is a tie. If the polls are showing an actual tie, that means Democrats lose by 4 points.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President. 
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Allow me to elaborate on that...
On this day in History, November 4th:
0000000000000000---2024----000---2020---000----2016-----
National000000000Trump +0.0000Biden +6.9000Clinton0 +3.2
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Wisconsin0000000Harris +0.4000Biden +6.7000Clinton0 +6.5
Pennsylvania0000Trump0 +0.3000Biden +2.6000Clinton0 +2.1
Ohio000000000000Trump0 +7.3000Trump +1.0000Trump000 +2.2
Michigan00000000Harris +1.2000Biden +5.1000Clinton0 +3.6
Arizona000000000Trump0 +2.7000Biden +0.9000Trump00 +4.0
Nevada0000000000Trump0 +1.0000Biden +3.6000Trump 000+0.8
North Carolina00Trump0 +1.5000Trump +0.2000Trump 000+0.8
Georgia000000000Trump0 +1.7000Biden +0.2000Trump000 +4.8
Florida000000000Trump0 +8.0000Biden +0.9000Trump00 +0.4
Here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2020...
National:000000 Trump +6.9
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.3
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +2.9
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +6.3
Michigan:000000 Trump +3.9
Arizona:0000000 Trump +3.6
Nevada:00000000 Trump +4.3
North Carolina: Trump +1.3
Georgia:0000000 Trump +1.5
Florida:0000000 Trump +8.9
And here's where Trump stands in the battleground states compared to 2016...
National:000000 Trump +3.2
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Wisconsin:00000 Trump +6.1
Pennsylvania:00 Trump +2.4
Ohio:0000000000 Trump +5.1
Michigan:000000 Trump +2.4
Arizona:0000000 Trump -1.3
Nevada:
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To me, polls are worthless predictors. Not only are polls skewed, even if they were honestly conducted, they are confounded by vote and vote -count rigging.
For example, I'm convinced that the RNC electronically cheated their way to the Presidency in 2000 (Hanging chads wasn't Florida's problem, it was e-voting.) and 2004 (Ditto, but across 6 states not just one). And I strongly suspect ballot-stuffing in 2020.
But what the current polls do is make a Trump loss not credible. That tends to discourage massive cheating bc people are now sensitized to the issue.
AS THEY SHOULD BE. Everyone should be watching for irregularities like a hawk. EVERY ELECTION, EVERY TIME. That's the only way to keep elections clean.
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Originally posted by SIGNYM:
To me, polls are worthless predictors. Not only are polls skewed, even if they were honestly conducted, they are confounded by vote and vote -count rigging.
I both agree and disagree.
I put almost zero stock into any individual polls. My only real exception to that would probably be most non-election based polling from Gallup. It's not that I have implicit trust in that organization, but I don't believe them to be heavily biased in either direction and they have a good track record.
Polls are good indicators of tracking trends though, especially when you have recorded polling data going back as far as we do today. The above data I posted looks overwhelming to some on its own, but all of that data was taken from several hundred polls from 2 election cycles. And then all of that data is being compared to all of the recent polling data from 2024's election cycle. There is a TON of data in there.
So this is where I get in danger of being wrong. If something really has changed in the polling methodologies of ALL polling firms and they finally managed to include any "Trump bump" they were missing the last two times, this election is not as skewed in favor of Trump as I believe it to be. I know some articles have stated that this previous bias has been eliminated from polling firms in 2024, but nobody has provided any facts to back those assertions up and we won't know the answer to that question until at least late night tomorrow if Trump runs away with it, and possibly weeks from now if it's close or it looks like Harris is up slightly in enough states to drag it out.
Sure. I wish we had two more election cycles for me to compare everything against, but even if I looked back further a race between Obama and Romney/McCain is not going to tell us pertinent information for 2024 politics anyhow.
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For example, I'm convinced that the RNC electronically cheated their way to the Presidency in 2000 (Hanging chads wasn't Florida's problem, it was e-voting.) and 2004 (Ditto, but across 6 states not just one). And I strongly suspect ballot-stuffing in 2020.
Agreed and agreed.
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But what the current polls do is make a Trump loss not credible. That tends to discourage massive cheating bc people are now sensitized to the issue.
Unfortunately, I don't agree with you here.
In the minds of half of the country voting Harris, a Trump loss would be EXTREMELY credible because of current polling. Most people have memories of goldfish and aren't looking into any of this polling data like I am. They woke up this morning to see a reported virtual tie. They are not taking any time to look at previous HUGE polling biases for context. In their minds, this is a coin flip. In the event that Harris wins, the media will just keep lying about everything, not question the election results and it will go out of its way to call anybody who questions the results a Democracy hating Nazi. It won't even matter to them if half of the people thought the election was a scam.
Nate Silver, who has probably been the most based of all the Alt-Left pollsters out there this cycle is calling this a coin-flip right now. And I don't even blame most people who read him for believing him because that's what all the current-year polling is showing us. It's only when you look at previous polling from previous election cycles where the warning bells would ring for them. How many people voting for Harris do you think are actually aware of any of this?
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AS THEY SHOULD BE. Everyone should be watching for irregularities like a hawk. EVERY ELECTION, EVERY TIME. That's the only way to keep elections clean.
Steven Crowder says that they've got a huge team all over the country not only reporting on the election tomorrow but watching polling places in large cities in swing states to try to catch any voting shenanigans. I don't particularly care for Crowder and I feel
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They Knew Who Trump Really Was All Along: Conservatives in their own words
Lindsey Graham
Ted Cruz
Rand Paul
Marco Rubio
Nikki Haley
Kellyanne Conway
Mike Pompeo
Glenn Beck
Rick Perry
Susan Collins
THEY CALLED HIM THESE THINGS...
liar, narcissist,
race baiting, xenophobic,
religious bigot, mean-spiritedness,
con artist, orange-faced windbag,
kook, unfit for office, AND MORE...
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
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Originally posted by second:
They Knew Who Trump Really Was All Along: Conservatives in their own words
Lindsey Graham
Ted Cruz
Rand Paul
Marco Rubio
Nikki Haley
Kellyanne Conway
Mike Pompeo
Glenn Beck
Rick Perry
Susan Collins
THEY CALLED HIM THESE THINGS...
liar, narcissist,
race baiting, xenophobic,
religious bigot, mean-spiritedness,
con artist, orange-faced windbag,
kook, unfit for office, AND MORE...
You forgot J.D. Vance.
They all had to say a lot of things when they were kneeling before their NeoCon Masters.
Now they're able to say what they want to say because all the NeoCons are out stumping for your girl.
I do wonder where those NeoCons will go when Trump wins tomorrow.
They don't have any home to go back to.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww........
Let the temper tantrums begin!
MSNBC: Donald Trump should not be this close to the presidency again
Donald Trump’s resurgence wasn’t foretold after America rejected him four years ago. That he is this close to victory is maddening.
https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/trump-campaign-win-electio
n-day-polls-rcna177625
Poor Hayes is under the illusion this race is a toss-up and he's freaking the fuck out.
If they taught you how to Math in public school, Mr. Brown, you would know that this race is not a toss-up and Harris is at a SEVERE disadvantage against Trump right now.
With history as our guide, no person with a 3 digit IQ should go into election day believing anything other than +1.5 points up to and even surpassing the maximum margin of error in favor of Trump occurs on the national level and in every swing state except for Nevada and Arizona.
Sleep tight.
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
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Time for the Truth. Trump won in 2020 and is winning in a landslide in 2024. No matter, we're going to steal it again.
T 
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Originally posted by THG:
Time for the Truth. Trump won in 2020 and is winning in a landslide in 2024. No matter, we're going to steal it again.
T
Trump did win in 2020.
He will win by far too much for you to cheat this time.
I have math on my side. You have nothing.
I guess you should have been preparing for an election by serving the American people instead of spending all that time trying to throw your political opposition in prison.
How'd that work out for you by the way, Ted? Any updates on your 2 dozen tick tock threads for us today?
Tick Tock
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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by THG:
Time for the Truth. Trump won in 2020 and is winning in a landslide in 2024. No matter, we're going to steal it again.
T
Trump did win in 2020.
He will win by far too much for you to cheat this time.
I have math on my side. You have nothing.
I know, he did win in 2020 and we stole it from him. We fucked you and are going to do it again. And yes, he is going to win in a landslide again. No matter, we're going to steal it again. How are you going to stop us?
Wicked funny...
T
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