The Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes Failure Thread
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Tuesday, July 16, 2024 10:38
VIEWED: 5093
PAGE 6 of 10
Quote:I think Planet of the Apes is a failure is because Apes don't have tails. My prediction is that either the next Planet of the Apes has got to have talking monkeys with furry tails in key roles or else it will fail, too. Monkeys are so cute! They will bring in more children and thus a huge increase in ticket sales. Just kidding! Ape movies will be failures from now to eternity. 6ix, failure is not because Hollywood is advocating for a multi-racial human society by including many species of apes. These movies fail because the basic idea of talking animals as politicians and warriors lacks novelty.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I think Apes is going to make toward the smaller end of the scale on my predicted final amount after seeing this pretty massive drop in the 2nd week.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
mixed reports on the budget, some say $165 million
and
$160 million?
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/box-office-kingdom-of-the-planet-of
-the-apes-opening-weekend-projections-1235994166/
some expect 180 million
72.7M overseas | 141.5M worldwide
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/31999-kingdom-of-the-planet-o
f-the-apes-727m-overseas-1415m-worldwide/
NOTIFY: N | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by JAYNEZTOWN:
mixed reports on the budget, some say $165 million
and
$160 million?
https://variety.com/2024/film/news/box-office-kingdom-of-the-planet-of
-the-apes-opening-weekend-projections-1235994166/
some expect 180 million
72.7M overseas | 141.5M worldwide
https://forums.boxofficetheory.com/topic/31999-kingdom-of-the-planet-o
f-the-apes-727m-overseas-1415m-worldwide/
It likely loses in any scenario.
--------------------------------------------------
Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by SECOND:Quote:I think Planet of the Apes is a failure is because Apes don't have tails. My prediction is that either the next Planet of the Apes has got to have talking monkeys with furry tails in key roles or else it will fail, too. Monkeys are so cute! They will bring in more children and thus a huge increase in ticket sales. Just kidding! Ape movies will be failures from now to eternity. 6ix, failure is not because Hollywood is advocating for a multi-racial human society by including many species of apes. These movies fail because the basic idea of talking animals as politicians and warriors lacks novelty.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I think Apes is going to make toward the smaller end of the scale on my predicted final amount after seeing this pretty massive drop in the 2nd week.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
All that is indicating is that Hollywood is learning that it still has all of its old problems now that they've fired their entire DEI teams from top to bottom is that they're not going to get away with playing it safe and selling stuff they've already repackaged 100 times before during the middle of the worst economy seen in 2 generations without slashing those budgets accordingly.
Injecting Leftist ideology into every single movie and show stopped in 2023 when they realized how bad it was for business and the actors/writers gave them an opportunity to cancel 2/3rds of the projects they were working on and the ability to fire most of the problem elements. The few rare examples of woke trash that have come out this year were simply too far along to cancel and still got a release.
It's May freakin' 19th and Disney has yet to put a single movie in the theaters after losing nearly $1.5 Billion on woke trash last year.
People would still be going to see Apes right now if we had the economy of 2019 and 2020. But we have Joe Biden*'s 2024 economy and nobody is going to see Apes if it means they have to skip eating one day that week.
--------------------------------------------------
Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Bruce is predicting a pretty big 60% this weekend in the US for only $23.4 Million and a drop to 2nd place. He doesn't go into any detail at all about Apes in the prediction article.
Regardless of how it does Internationally, it should be quite a bit less of a drop than 60% simply because we get their new numbers for all week instead of just the weekend numbers. Typically if that film was doing well last year, it amounted to essentially doubling opening weekend's numbers. With a 60% drop in the US on 2nd weekend, maybe that amounts to 85% of the first weekend internationally?
Bruce's $23.4 Million added to the current worldwide total would be just shy of $171.5 Million worldwide.
Let's say 85% of last weekend's $75 Million on top of it.
So maybe we see around $235 Million come Monday?
Maybe Bruce is full of shit and it does $35 Million in the US this weekend and an extra $12 Million internationally and we're well over $250 Million on Monday?
Who knows.... It's all guessing right now.
I'd say I'm still pretty good at guessing even in the weird 2024 market.
$237,539,501 is the grand total right now with the internationals tallied and the Studio projections for the weekend.
Bruce predicted only $23.4 Million in the US this weekend, and the projections in the US are $26 Million.
That low prediction accounts for the $2.539 Million I was low on the worldwide prediction, which means that my international guess for the weekend was spot on.
It's now at 148.5% of the production budget.
My Low/High prediction for the final numbers was $350 Million to $475 Million. I'm still going with that number, but as I said after Friday's numbers came out I think it will be toward the lower end of that prediction and it will not break even.
--------------------------------------------------
Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:Hollywood has always made more failures than movies that break even or make a profit because movies are crap. I can afford to buy dozens of tickets to every movie show at the closest theater but I don't go because it is crap.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
People would still be going to see Apes right now if we had the economy of 2019 and 2020. But we have Joe Biden*'s 2024 economy and nobody is going to see Apes if it means they have to skip eating one day that week.
Compare the economy of 2020 to 2024
https://www.google.com/search?q=compare+the+economy+of+2020+to+2024
https://www.forbes.com/sites/christianweller/2024/03/22/the-economy-is
-much-stronger-than-four-years-ago/?sh=5d2664ca644b
The American Economy And People Are Much Better Off Than 4 Years Ago
By Christian Weller
Households Are Materially Better Off Than Four Years Ago
A Strong Economic Recovery Has Delivered for All Groups of Households
It is election season. This is a time when the question of whether people are materially better off than they were four years ago comes up. Comparing March 2024 to March 2020, when a once-in-a-century pandemic broke out, the answer is obviously a resounding yes. But, even considering the winter of 2024 relative to the months before the pandemic shows a stronger and more stable economy that delivered better material well-being for American families now than was the case back then.
Job Stability Is More Pronounced Than Before The Pandemic
The labor market experienced a very rapid recovery due to large fiscal policy interventions, a Center for American Progress report explains. Unemployment dropped sharply as jobs came roaring back. The unemployment rate averaged 3.6% in the three months before the pandemic struck in March 2020, slightly below the 3.8% for the past three months – from December 2023 to February 2024. Moreover, the average length of unemployment stood at 21.1 weeks before the pandemic and is now at 21.3 weeks. Based on these overall numbers, the labor market looks equally strong now than before the pandemic.
Other indicators suggest that workers are now in a more favorable labor market than they were immediately before the pandemic. For instance, data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics show that the rate of job openings to the number of people employed has been at 5.3% for the past three months, compared to 4.3% from December 2019 to February 2020. The rate of job openings is now still more than 20% higher than it was before the pandemic, giving workers more opportunities for economic mobility. At the same time, the rate of layoffs was 1% for the past three months, or more than 20% lower than in the winter of 2020, according to BLS data. Workers now face fewer threats to their job security than was the case four years ago.
The current job stability now also followed a longer period of labor market tranquility than was the case prior to the pandemic. By February 2024, the unemployment rate had been below 4% for 25 months in a row, the longest such stretch in more than 50 years. In comparison, the unemployment rate had been below 4% for 13 months before the pandemic hit the labor market in March 2020.
Workers care not only about finding a job but also about keeping it or finding a new one when they get laid off. By all measures, the current labor market is more stable than it was before the pandemic.
More Workers Receive Substantial Wage Gains
Widespread job stability has translated into broadly shared wage gains. Average hourly wages were about 1% higher in February 2024 than they were four years ago, according to BLS data. But those averages include workers who have been in the labor market for a long time and those who are newly employed. The changing mix of workers can provide misleading indications of wage growth.
Following the same workers over time to see their wage gains is a better measure of people’s economic security, a metric tracked by the Atlanta Fed. My Center for American Progress colleague, Brendan Duke, reports that
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Not limited to Planet of the Apes and Ghostbusters, failure is Hollywood’s brand.
Challengers (2024) is a failure.
Production Budget: $55,000,000 (worldwide box office is 1.4 times production budget)
https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Challengers-(2024)#tab=summary
Pirates provide free copies of Challengers, reinforcing what is obvious: Hollywood makes crap.
https://yts.mx/movies/challengers-2024
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Wow. Nobody wanted to see the movie where two dudes were fucking Zendaya? She's maybe a 7 out of 10 if you're drunk.
*yawn*
--------------------------------------------------
Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
6ix, accept the Truth: Failure is Habitual in Hollywood. Failing is not a unique condition caused by the economy, politics, or whatever bogeyman you are flogging 6ix.
8 Movies That Bombed So Hard They Bankrupted Studios
#8, The Golden Compass, New Line Cinema
#7, The Lady Vanishes, Hammer Productions
#6, Looney Tunes Back In Action, Warner Brothers Feature Animation
#5, It's a Wonderful Life, Liberty Films
#4, Battlefield Earth, Franchise Pictures
#3, Mars Needs Mums, Image Movers Digital
#2, Heavens Gate, United Artists
#1, Superman 4, The Quest for Peace, The Canon Group
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
6ix, accept the Truth: Failure is Habitual in Hollywood. Failing is not a unique condition caused by the economy, politics, or whatever bogeyman you are flogging, 6ix.
Incorrect. Failure is NOT habitual in Hollywood. If it were, it would have collapsed a long time ago.
Your version of history, as is your version of pretty much everything, is a fantasy you made up in your head and will not be discussed here. Take it to Twitter.
Meanwhile, the studio execs have finally figured out what they were doing wrong these last 5 to 10 years and they're in the process of firing everyone involved. The writer/actor strikes backfired hugely and ended up being a great excuse to axe 2/3rds of them without any consequences.
--------------------------------------------------
Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.
NOTIFY: Y | REPLY | REPLY WITH QUOTE | PERMALINK | TOP | HOME