The Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes Failure Thread

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SECOND

Sunday, May 12, 2024 2:27 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:

Many people (including me) want a good reason to get out of the house for a few hours. I'll pay too much for tickets and Snow Caps if the flick isn't a waste of my time. Lately there hasn't been any flicks to get all that excited about. I love Deadpool but it looks like a multiverse parody flick I can wait for on cable, and I didn't much care for the first Joker so I'll wait for Joker 2 to come to cable also.

Another reason why movies are failing: advertisement before the show starts.

My time is worth at least $1 per minute. If the theater can't pay me $15 for the 15 minutes of commercials before the feature starts, I am being cheated by the theater operator. Other movie patrons also feel that commercials are wasting their lives, but they don't express their feeling in money. To avoid being swindled by the crooks running theaters, more and more customers avoid movies.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, May 12, 2024 4:07 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by whozit:

Many people (including me) want a good reason to get out of the house for a few hours. I'll pay too much for tickets and Snow Caps if the flick isn't a waste of my time. Lately there hasn't been any flicks to get all that excited about. I love Deadpool but it looks like a multiverse parody flick I can wait for on cable, and I didn't much care for the first Joker so I'll wait for Joker 2 to come to cable also.
Another reason why movies are failing: advertisement before the show starts.

My time is worth at least $1 per minute. If the theater can't pay me $15 for the 15 minutes of commercials before the feature starts, I am being cheated by the theater operator. Other movie patrons also feel that commercials are wasting their lives, but they don't express their feeling in money. To avoid being swindled by the crooks running theaters, more and more customers avoid movies.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Whozit does bring up a valid point, however. Some people really prefer getting out of the house and sitting in a movie theater to watch a movie. There are benefits to that over watching at home and I completely understand how they outweigh the cons even though I personally don't feel that way.

That is another benefit of the small theaters. I've never seen a commercial for anything in the theater I mentioned, outside of previews for other movies. But I have been to large chain theaters recently enough to remember complaining when I started seeing ads for Coke and other major brand names. I wouldn't doubt if somebody told me you have to sit through Pfizer ads before a movie today.

Hollywood does need to make some big adjustments to survive going forward for sure. Streaming is never going to be the cash cow they were hoping it to be.

Budgets need to be severely trimmed, which honestly shouldn't be a problem, but they're going to have to at least do a little SixSigma now in an industry that apparently has never made any moves before to even attempt doing things efficiently. And this includes the "Hollywood Reporting" too. Whoever has been skimming off the top all this time is going to have to settle for much lesser "scores" going forward if they don't want to get caught.

And big actor budgets also need a major trimming going forward.

They do those things and give people what they want to see I think Hollywood and movie theaters will last for a long time.

And they're motivated right now. They might not be admitting publicly yet, but they are in survival mode. Necessity being the mother of invention, I have no doubt that they'll figure it out now that they realize the potential future they face otherwise.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

SECOND

Sunday, May 12, 2024 8:19 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Necessity being the mother of invention, I have no doubt that they'll figure it out now that they realize the potential future they face otherwise.

I want the following future for the movie industry. Theaters become rarities like concert halls, which are only open for special occasions such as the Rolling Stones coming to Houston, rather than open seven days per week, 14 hours per day, every week of the year. A future without thousands of theaters would be a great thing for America. Most of Hollywood's talent deserves to be downsized into factory work for the production of cheap ass TV shows rather than movies on the big screen.

https://www.nrgpark.com/events/rolling-stones-hackney-diamonds-24/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Sunday, May 12, 2024 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by second:
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Necessity being the mother of invention, I have no doubt that they'll figure it out now that they realize the potential future they face otherwise.
I want the following future for the movie industry. Theaters become rarities like concert halls, which are only open for special occasions such as the Rolling Stones coming to Houston, rather than open seven days per week, 14 hours per day, every week of the year. A future without thousands of theaters would be a great thing for America. Most of Hollywood's talent deserves to be downsized into factory work for the production of cheap ass TV shows rather than movies on the big screen.

https://www.nrgpark.com/events/rolling-stones-hackney-diamonds-24/

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

Why do you want this? I don't understand your particular grotch.

Just last year you were defending Disney and telling me that they didn't make movies like Lightyear for me. Now you want Hollywood to die and for all the theaters to shut down.

Make it make sense.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

SECOND

Sunday, May 12, 2024 6:41 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Why do you want this? I don't understand your particular grotch.

Just last year you were defending Disney and telling me that they didn't make movies like Lightyear for me. Now you want Hollywood to die and for all the theaters to shut down.

Make it make sense.

Have you heard of vaudeville? A type of entertainment popular chiefly in the US in the early 20th century, featuring a mixture of specialty acts such as burlesque comedy and song and dance. A stage play on a trivial theme with interspersed songs. The actors/dancers/comedians/entertainers/musicians/stagehands who once were the vaudeville workforce are out of business, retired by the spread of Hollywood movies. What goes around, comes around. Hollywood is going the way of vaudeville. And the excessive number of movie theaters are 21st-century versions of vaudeville stages.

Now that I think about it, Lightyear was a piece of forgettable Disney piffle, hard to recall compared to the first Toy Story movie that came out before Disney bought Pixar and homogenized it into Blah Stories. Lightyear has a vending machine joke (future sandwiches are one slice of bread between two slices of meat). All of Lightyear is that sandwich, wet and messy on the outside, dry and tasteless on the inside. It was assembled incorrectly, like future sandwiches from an alternative universe in the multiverse, where everything is not simply sub-optimal, but Disney goes to extra effort to make the cartoon visibly inferior.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, May 13, 2024 12:44 AM

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Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Why do you want this? I don't understand your particular grotch.

Just last year you were defending Disney and telling me that they didn't make movies like Lightyear for me. Now you want Hollywood to die and for all the theaters to shut down.

Make it make sense.
Have you heard of vaudeville? A type of entertainment popular chiefly in the US in the early 20th century, featuring a mixture of specialty acts such as burlesque comedy and song and dance. A stage play on a trivial theme with interspersed songs. The actors/dancers/comedians/entertainers/musicians/stagehands who once were the vaudeville workforce are out of business, retired by the spread of Hollywood movies. What goes around, comes around. Hollywood is going the way of vaudeville. And the excessive number of movie theaters are 21st-century versions of vaudeville stages.

Now that I think about it, Lightyear was a piece of forgettable Disney piffle, hard to recall compared to the first Toy Story movie that came out before Disney bought Pixar and homogenized it into Blah Stories. Lightyear has a vending machine joke (future sandwiches are one slice of bread between two slices of meat). All of Lightyear is that sandwich, wet and messy on the outside, dry and tasteless on the inside. It was assembled incorrectly, like future sandwiches from an alternative universe in the multiverse, where everything is not simply sub-optimal, but Disney goes to extra effort to make the cartoon visibly inferior.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

I just find it humorous that you came to the same conclusion about Disney 2 years later, after all the Lefty shill sites finally stopped protecting them. You were going around calling anyone who didn't like Lightyear a Nazi, but whatever.

Better late than never, I suppose.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, May 13, 2024 3:10 AM

No word on internationals yet, but Apes managed to defy expectations and post $56.5 Million over the weekend according to projections. It's probably going to be well over $57 Million once the real numbers come in.

That's probably good news if the international numbers followed suit. If they managed to get something like $90 Million internationally, this one may not end up flopping. It would still be in coin-flip territory for making money, but anything that boosts it above 80% of the production budget on opening weekend will help its long term prospects.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

WHOZIT

Monday, May 13, 2024 5:11 AM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
No word on internationals yet, but Apes managed to defy expectations and post $56.5 Million over the weekend according to projections. It's probably going to be well over $57 Million once the real numbers come in.

That's probably good news if the international numbers followed suit. If they managed to get something like $90 Million internationally, this one may not end up flopping. It would still be in coin-flip territory for making money, but anything that boosts it above 80% of the production budget on opening weekend will help its long term prospects.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Disney has released a hit...wow

6IXSTRINGJACK

Monday, May 13, 2024 5:58 AM

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Originally posted by whozit:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
No word on internationals yet, but Apes managed to defy expectations and post $56.5 Million over the weekend according to projections. It's probably going to be well over $57 Million once the real numbers come in.

That's probably good news if the international numbers followed suit. If they managed to get something like $90 Million internationally, this one may not end up flopping. It would still be in coin-flip territory for making money, but anything that boosts it above 80% of the production budget on opening weekend will help its long term prospects.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

Disney has released a hit...wow

Don't get too ahead of yourself now.

We've got to see what happens outside of the US first, and see how much of a drop it sees on weekend 2 before we really know one way or another.

And yeah... Disney owns it, but they've got to be pretty salty right now that nothing their main Disney Studios has put out has made them any money for years. They gotta watch 20th Century Studios putting out a modest hit here and there in between Avatar movies, while also not ever shitting the bed so hard that they cause any substantial and irredeemable loss.

I can't say with any certainty right now if it really loses money or if it makes a buck. I'm pretty sure that if it ends up losing money it won't be much.

Audience reviews are only 78% at RT and it gets a CinemaScore of "B". Both of those are not good.

This one could really go anywhere from here.

Getting nearly $150 Million on opening weekend if they had a higher than expected international opening will really help its chances out.

.....

Just checked The-Numbers right now and Bruce said this...

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Internationally, the apes are doing well too, with a total of $72.5 million so far. China leads the way with $11.4 million (steeply down from the $112.4 million earned there by War for the Planet of the Apes). Other notable territories so far are France, $7.1m; Mexico, $6.4m; UK, $4.8m, Korea, $3.2m; Australia, $2.7m; Brazil, $2.6m; Germany, $2.2m; Spain, $2.2m; and Indonesia, with $1.9 million.

I don't know what "so far" means. Maybe it means he got all the internationals this for this weekend and he means so far in the run of the movie. Maybe he means that $72.5 Million has been reported so far for this weekend but he expects more to be reported before he posts those numbers tomorrow.

$72.5 Million brings us back down into $130 Million territory after the real numbers come out higher than the projections. That's less than 80% of the production budget, and if memory serves there were only 2 movies in the Top 100 that came back from poorer openings than that to end up posting a profit.

It will be interesting to see where this one goes.

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Trump will be fine.
He will also be your next President.

SECOND

Monday, May 13, 2024 9:01 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
Quote:
Originally posted by second:
Quote:
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:

Why do you want this? I don't understand your particular grotch.

Just last year you were defending Disney and telling me that they didn't make movies like Lightyear for me. Now you want Hollywood to die and for all the theaters to shut down.

Make it make sense.
Have you heard of vaudeville? A type of entertainment popular chiefly in the US in the early 20th century, featuring a mixture of specialty acts such as burlesque comedy and song and dance. A stage play on a trivial theme with interspersed songs. The actors/dancers/comedians/entertainers/musicians/stagehands who once were the vaudeville workforce are out of business, retired by the spread of Hollywood movies. What goes around, comes around. Hollywood is going the way of vaudeville. And the excessive number of movie theaters are 21st-century versions of vaudeville stages.

Now that I think about it, Lightyear was a piece of forgettable Disney piffle, hard to recall compared to the first Toy Story movie that came out before Disney bought Pixar and homogenized it into Blah Stories. Lightyear has a vending machine joke (future sandwiches are one slice of bread between two slices of meat). All of Lightyear is that sandwich, wet and messy on the outside, dry and tasteless on the inside. It was assembled incorrectly, like future sandwiches from an alternative universe in the multiverse, where everything is not simply sub-optimal, but Disney goes to extra effort to make the cartoon visibly inferior.

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

I just find it humorous that you came to the same conclusion about Disney 2 years later, after all the Lefty shill sites finally stopped protecting them. You were going around calling anyone who didn't like Lightyear a Nazi, but whatever.

Better late than never, I suppose.

Because you misunderstood what I wrote, 6ix, you prove yourself to be almost the stupidest Trumptard I know. I said Lightyear was a poorly structured story and I used an example from Lightyear to say it, the Lightyear joke about a sandwich with meat where the bread is supposed to be and bread where the meat is supposed to be. The Lightyear script pages needed to be rearranged into a different order but a page from the script in isolation was fine, much like the weird Lightyear sandwich joke had all the right ingredients but in the wrong order.

Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes is now available for FREE:

https://1337x.to/torrent/6095899/Kingdom-of-the-Planet-of-the-Apes-202
4-1080p-V3-HDTS-X264-COLLECTIVE/ The final "/" in the URL is necessary to avoid the 404 Not Found error message.

If you know how a BitTorrent works, this hexadecimal number is all you need to download the movie: Info Hash v1: 9b91ae424db6a7b185ba92aeba1103ab5e33c118

The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at https://www.mediafire.com/two

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