The Madame Web Failure Thread (And the Success of Dune: Part 2 Thread)
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 01:07
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Originally posted by second:
I don't have a copy of the script, but I suspect there are fewer than 1,000 words spoken in the hours of Dune: Part Two.
I haven't heard anybody mention this anywhere. You're going to need to back that up.
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Dakota Johnson sounds pretty fucking based.
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Originally posted by second:Quote:I don't have a copy of the script, but I suspect there are fewer than 1,000 words spoken in the hours of Dune: Part Two.
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
Originally posted by second:
“In a perfect world, I’d make a compelling movie that doesn’t feel like an experiment but does not have a single word in it either,” he said.
Okay... So he's a crazy person. Got it.
Good luck with your silent movie in 2024 buddy.
Hell... good luck even getting funding for that idea.
Exposition dumps are a real problem in Hollywood though. The constant spoon feeding the audience that they think (and probably are often right about) are too stupid to understand what's going on if somebody isn't always spelling it out for them. Or always telling us about something that happened with boring dialog instead of actually showing it on screen. He's not wrong about that.
But what he's talking about is the extreme opposite and nobody is going to pay to see that either.
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Quotes from Dune: Part Two
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt15239678/quotes/?ref_=tt_trv_qu
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
I took the liberty of downloading a soundtrack file and removing the time stamps, then uploading it to a word counting site. I removed 2 or three bits that weren't even dialogue and were likely scenery shots with a change of location on them.
I'm curious where you got your information from, or what led you to suspect it was under 1,000 words, because it appears that you were right.
952 words.
For comparison's sake, Pulp Fiction used the F Bomb 265 times, which alone would have accounted for 27.8% of the entire dialogue of Dune: Part 2. Swearnet: The Movie, made by the guys from Canada who did the Trailer Park Boys holds the records for the most F Bombs in a movie and dropped the F Bomb 935 times in only 1 hour and 52 minutes. That one word in Swearnet was 98.2% of the entire dialog of Dune: Part 2.
This had better be a cinematographic masterpiece, because although it's said that brevity is the heart of wit, the 952 words you do hear throughout the 2 hour and 46 minute runtime is about a 5th grade reading level. A 2024 5th grade reading level mind you... maybe about a 2nd grade reading level in the 1990s.
For anybody who cares, here you go...
Behold, the dialogue of Dune: Part 2
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Enemy.
Do you hear that?
The rats are calling a worm.
Worms!
Unit, climb. Now!
Look for wormsign.
We're ok.
No Shields!
I got you, rat.
You're not welcome here.
Jamis! Jamis!
You killed Jamis!
Spies!
Witch!
Stop! Stop!
They don't know what
they're saying.
Lisan al-Gaib! Lisan al-Gaib!
Mahdi!
I need your guidance with
the two foreigners.
Give them back to the desert.
I saw the signs.
Again.
Stilgar, your faith is
playing tricks on you.
The Lisan al-Gaib has not
shown his face yet!
He speaks our language.
He will quickly learn our ways.
I'm ready to pledge my life for him.
The desert will handle his fate.
What about the woman?
Too spicy for the foreigner?
He'll look pretty with blue eyes.
Don't mock him.
He deserves our respect
He's a good fighter.
To the well, our water we return.
We bless our brother, Jamis.
Amen.
She'll drink worm piss.
Not funny.
He's about to lose her.
If she’s stupid enough to
drink poison.
Shut up!
We are praying.
Here is the Water of Life.
It frees the soul.
If you drink
you shall die.
If you drink
you may see.
Drink!
What have we done.
She is pregnant.
That was no miracle!
You saw it with your own eyes!
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Madame Web has completely flat-lined here, earning less than $200k the last two days.
It only needs $3 Million more to hit $100 Million though, so I can't imagine it doesn't do that once the international numbers come in, regardless of how terrible it does in the US this weekend.
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Dune Two Little
How can a movie be so big and, at the same time, so small?
By Aaron Bady | March 15, 202412:53 PM
https://slate.com/culture/2024/03/dune-2-movies-frank-herbert-books-me
aning-differences.html
The first half a dozen chapters [of Dune] are mostly just Paul—and the reader—being schooled in the novel’s world and the techniques of living in it.
But Herbert’s characters also overthink things. From the Bene Gesserit, to the Mentats, to the mind-expanding spice eaters on Arrakis, the galactic future superpower is comprehension and prediction; the novel’s plot is essentially a chess game between a variety of players trying to think more moves ahead than their opponents. Most conflicts come down to, and are resolved by, the information available to predict and understand different chains of causation of extrapolated effects. So much so, in fact, that it becomes oppressive, as Paul’s prescience narrows his sense of possibilities to a sharp and horrible point: The more clearly you can see the future, the less agency you have to actually choose in the present. The novel itself is a story already told, with each chapter opening with quotations from books Princess Irulan will write about Paul’s life, from the future in which the events of the novel have long since been decided. In this way, the novel trains you in hopelessness, the same way Paul comes of age with the discovery that the world, which seems so full of possibility when you are young, is actually a book already written and closed.
The Joss Whedon script for Serenity, where Wash lives, is Serenity-190pages.pdf at
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/1uwh75oa407q8/Firefly
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Originally posted by second:Quote:6ix, are you now a believer that Hollywood knows what the audience wants?
Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:Quote:
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The Sterile Spectacle of “Dune: Part Two”
By Justin Chang | February 27, 2024
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/03/11/dune-part-two-movie-revi
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Justin Chang at the New Yorker is in the very, very, very small minority.
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/dune_part_two
208 reviewers have given it a 95% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. 53 "Top Critics" have given it a 92%.
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No. Not at all.
But I have a really good track record of predicting which movies are going to be successes and which are going to be flops.
Dune Part 2 is going to be a success and will easily make enough to be 1st place worldwide until something more successful comes out.Quote:
As if gunpowder was never invented, Dune's armies of swordsmen fight to death. In this future, even spears, bows and arrows are too high tech. It's swords and more swords. And still more swords. Slash/slash/stab!
Whatever. Don't care. I'm not interested in the movie.Quote:
Ticket sales will be the proof that Hollywood knows what the audience wants.
No. Ticket sales will be the proof that this movie is a success. We've already had one major box office failure with Argylle, and there will be plenty more in 2024. Less than there would have been though because Disney pumped the breaks and isn't really releasing much this year.
Bruce is predicting DP2 pulls in another $36 Million this weekend and takes back 1st place from Kung Fu Panda 4 with a $31 Million prediction.
It's got $388 Million worldwide right now, and there should be at least $50 or $60 Million more added to the international numbers by Monday. It should be sitting $475 Million worldwide easily by Monday, though I doubt we'll see it hit $500 Million by then.
YOLO is currently sitting at $479 Million, with just about $1 Million in the US box office.
The only real question now is whether it takes just this weekend for Dune: Part 2 to become the top worldwide grossing movie worldwide in 2024 or if we have to wait until next weekend to see that happen.
I don't expect it to happen this weekend because we don't know what kind of bump YOLO is still going to get in China for the last week. But there is a possibility that DP2 could overtake it before next weekend if it's still grossing $2 to $4 Million per day in the US on the weekdays next week.
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Total flatline for Madame Web now. Friday saw just $115k after Thursday's $90k. It won't even come close to half a million for the weekend. Honestly, I can't believe it's still in 2,000+ theaters for another week. It probably loses 1,400 of them or so on Thursday.
I'm curious to see if the International Bump puts it over $100 Million this weekend or not.
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Dune: Part 2 failed to meet Bruce's expectations this weekend according to previews. It's a close race, but it appears that Kung Fu Panda 4 (which also under-performed) has $30 Million in previews to DP2's $29.1 Million.
If those projections are correct, it's going to need to get the high end of my international prediction of $50 to $60 Million added to hit $475 Million by the end of the weekend.
If it fails to do this, it probably won't be until the international numbers come in next weekend that we finally see a Hollywood movie dethrone YOLO and the other Chinese movies that have ruled the first 2.5 months of the worldwide box office in 2024.
As of writing this, Dune: Part 2 sits in 3rd place behind YOLO and Pegasus 2.
https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/worldwide/all-movies/cu
mulative/released-in-2024
In other news, Madame Web makes only $400k in the US this weekend. It's about $2.5 Million shy of hitting $100 Million, so we'll have to wait and see if the internationals get it over the hump by Monday.
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Though it had a weaker than expected weekend in the US, it is doing even stronger overseas than expected.
As of now, Dune: Part 2 is already topping the Worldwide 2024 charts with $494.7 Million, so it looks like it made the high end of my international prediction plus another $20 or so Million on top of that.
Not sure if YOLO is still doing good business in China, so we'll see where it lands after YOLOs numbers are updated, but by next weekend it won't even be a close race for 1st place anymore.
As I predicted before this movie hit theaters, it will be the top worldwide earner heading into spring, and by Monday it will have made half a Billion worldwide if the projections weren't low and bump it up before Monday's numbers come in.
Bruce ends his article today by saying this...
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Overall, Warner Bros. reports that Dune: Part Two is tracking 67% ahead of Dune, which puts it on track for about $535 million internationally by the end of its run. If it tops $250 million domestically, that will give it somewhere between $750 million and $800 million worldwide.
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Bruce says Madame Web was in 1,058 theaters last weekend. It will probably still be in that many until Thursday night.
Just saw this article claiming that Sony is pulling it.
https://comicbookmovie.com/spider_man/madame-web/madame-web-sony-pulls
-marvel-movie-from-theaters-after-just-5-weekends-and-its-a-bigger-flop-than-morbius-a209942#gs.6lnryj
Doesn't look like it got any international bump this week. It may have already been pulled internationally.
If nothing changes, it didn't even crack $100 Million.
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